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Direckshun 10-14-2013 02:59 PM

Depth.

The Chiefs QB situation has no depth. That's one problem.

ChiefsCountry 10-14-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10085750)
Depth.

The Chiefs QB situation has no depth. That's one problem.

Alex Smith would be an outstanding #2 QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-14-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10085211)
No, it's not.

Alex Smith is 26-5-1 in the last three seasons. I don't give a flying squirrel's fart about statistics.

wut?

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2013 01:16 PM

Sorry Sac, outside of maybe Jackson, I think this mock sucks.

The Chiefs will likely add a few guards and tackles to the squad in the 2014 offseason via the draft and free agency. But I can't see them drafting DT's and CB's when they're loaded at the position.

Their focus will likely be WR, TE, G, T, QB, RB. They most definitely need to draft another QB, even if he sits on the practice squad until 2015. Reid must continually work to develop QB's.

Saccopoo 10-18-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10091549)
Sorry Sac, outside of maybe Jackson, I think this mock sucks.

The Chiefs will likely add a few guards and tackles to the squad in the 2014 offseason via the draft and free agency. But I can't see them drafting DT's and CB's when they're loaded at the position.

Their focus will likely be WR, TE, G, T, QB, RB. They most definitely need to draft another QB, even if he sits on the practice squad until 2015. Reid must continually work to develop QB's.

The thing about the DT position is that they keep bringing in guys and trying them out. They are obviously not completely satisfied with the depth that the Chiefs have at the position.

And I agree that they will have to look at an offensive tackle as they will most likely not pay Albert franchise tag money again. Stop gap year with him this season. But I think that Stephenson is pretty solid and will move into the RT spot in 2014 with Fisher moving over to LT.

Guard is the big position as Asamoah is just a guy and Allen is getting ate up like a soup dip sammich.

I still think that they'll want depth at CB. I'm not sure that there is much there beyond Flowers and Smith. Cooper looks promising to be sure, but two games do not make a career.

Fasano, Kelce and Duck McGrath seem to offer a pretty solid TE rotation (if they were all healthy), and I don't see them carrying a fourth just to carry a fourth.

And there is no chance in hell that they even begin to think about the QB spot unless Bray is a complete mess. And his arm and size alone dictate that he'll warrant at least two or three years in the system to see if he can be brought up to NFL level skills. If Smith doesn't get the long term extension, I'll eat my hat and Daniel is exactly what they signed him to be. No way they worry about the QB spot for at least another three years - and that's contingent on Bray elevating himself. Smith is easily a five year guy minimum, eight year maximum guy for the Chiefs while Reid is here.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-18-2013 05:46 PM

"Eight years"...

The Shark: You've jumped it, kimosabbe. LMAO

Direckshun 10-19-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10097181)
The thing about the DT position is that they keep bringing in guys and trying them out. They are obviously not completely satisfied with the depth that the Chiefs have at the position.

Really?

Allen Bailey's playing as well as he's ever played, and it looks like we landed a player in Catapano...

Toribio has been outstanding in goal line stands, too. He was a critical player in the huge goal line stand in Tennessee.

Toribio's won over every defensive coach we've had. Hell, one of the best DL minds the NFL's seen in the past 20 years, Romeo Crennel, started him over a 1st round NT in 2012, up until he got injured.

Saccopoo 10-19-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10099524)
Really?

Allen Bailey's playing as well as he's ever played, and it looks like we landed a player in Catapano...

Toribio has been outstanding in goal line stands, too. He was a critical player in the huge goal line stand in Tennessee.

Toribio's won over every defensive coach we've had. Hell, one of the best DL minds the NFL's seen in the past 20 years, Romeo Crennel, started him over a 1st round NT in 2012, up until he got injured.

I stated as soon as they inked the deal with Sutton, Bailey was a perfect fit for what he was going to run and should have a breakout year. Catapano is very similar to what you have in Bailey. Both work very well in the subpackages.

Toribio seems to put it together when the games begin, though I seriously doubt that they'll leave it at Poe and Toribio from a camp perspective. As I stated, Dorsey has brought in a lot of DT's to take a look at - that leaves me to believe that they are interested in competition at the position beyond Poe at the very least.

Saccopoo 11-02-2013 09:37 AM

Newly updated to reflect the holes the Chiefs have exhibited in the roster to date halfway through the season.

Offensive guard, particularly left guard, where Jeff Allen has simply been overwhelmed for the vast majority of the season, is a huge need. In addition, Asamoah has simply been a guy. I know that both were relatively high draft picks (Allen a second and Asamoah a third), but you've got to start showing something, especially at the guard position, sooner rather than later.

And Jackson is an absolute beast. He is simply dominating opposing defensive line players this season.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10148714)
Newly updated to reflect the holes the Chiefs have exhibited in the roster to date halfway through the season.

Offensive guard, particularly left guard, where Jeff Allen has simply been overwhelmed for the vast majority of the season, is a huge need. In addition, Asamoah has simply been a guy. I know that both were relatively high draft picks (Allen a second and Asamoah a third), but you've got to start showing something, especially at the guard position, sooner rather than later.

And Jackson is an absolute beast. He is simply dominating opposing defensive line players this season.

Free Agency.

NEXT!

Saccopoo 11-02-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10148761)
Free Agency.

NEXT!

That's where you find your 4th string, practice squad QB that you so desperately want.

Oh, wait, that's our third stringer...

All-Pro Guard?

That, my friend, is going to be our 2014 first rounder.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10148788)
That's where you find your 4th string, practice squad QB that you so desperately want.

Oh, wait, that's our third stringer...

All-Pro Guard?

That, my friend, is going to be our 2014 first rounder.

LMAO That's where will find our stop-gap line to give Axl and the other old farts of the roster their final chance.

O.city 11-02-2013 12:25 PM

Saccofbats

Saccopoo 11-02-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10148824)
LMAO That's where will find our stop-gap line to give Axl and the other old farts of the roster their final chance.

In all seriousness, Reid and Dorsey love Smith. Five years (this season included) minimum.

First and foremost, they are going to build a line around him. They want to build a time of possession, win the field position battle, matriculate the ball up and down the field offense that will not stall in the red zone. A line that will give Smith time as well as holes for the read option.

It's why Fisher was their first draft pick and why they will be looking at upgrading the interior sooner rather than later in 2014. Jackson, coming out of the SEC, with his physical tools, is the most pro ready, high level guard prospect in the draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10149039)
In all seriousness, Reid and Dorsey love Smith. Five years (this season included) minimum.

First and foremost, they are going to build a line around him. They want to build a time of possession, win the field position battle, matriculate the ball up and down the field offense that will not stall in the red zone. A line that will give Smith time as well as holes for the read option.

It's why Fisher was their first draft pick and why they will be looking at upgrading the interior sooner rather than later in 2014. Jackson, coming out of the SEC, with his physical tools, is the most pro ready, high level guard prospect in the draft.

Seriously, that's the last time they'll be spending high on fatties. Look for upgrades in the FA market to continue the(lmao)"win now" experiment under Axl's "leadership". Expect a new QB on the field after next season, as well as upgrades in the receiver corps.


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