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Gary Oldman Leads Human Resistance In ‘Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes’ (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270579)

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10743701)

I thought it was good but for some reason wasn't 100% satisfied. I can't put my finger on it but I guess I feel it could have been a bit better.

We know how it ends up but where do they go from here?

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10743767)

And?

Then the details is hashed out from that concept in the writing of the script.

Maybe more immediate than that.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10744013)

Maybe more immediate than that.

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Gary Oldman Leads Human Resistance In ‘Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes’

When will they start to shift their focus from the apes to the humans, I wonder?

I'm guessing they won't do that until Ceasar is dead.

saw it Saturday. I liked it. very cool movie.

question - if it was said...I missed it.... did they ever tell us the names of his sons? I was wondering if Cornelius is one of them.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10743701)

This is how I felt. My buddy and I (we both loved the first one) thought this one was lacking something. I felt like it was a 2 hour trailer for a 3rd movie. Caesar's character development was the highlight though.

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10746320)

I agree.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10746467)

I agree.

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I can see that and the high reviews probably set pretty lofty expectations.

Saw this earlier...really enjoyed it. Solid Depth, and I'm looking forward to more.

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10742045)

Sirkis and the rest of the motion capture / digital effects team should win an Oscar or some other awards. The Apes are surreally so well done and realistic!

It was pretty amazing to watch, hell of a job.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10743701)

I kind of agree with this. Still a great movie, though.

Some info on the plans going forward:

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Planet Of The Apes Director Reveals What's Next For The Apes

Meredith Woerner
io9.com
Today 12:20pm

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The movie sets Caesar up as a God. Is this the beginning of the ape religion that we see in later films? How much will his godlike status effect the next movie?

Matt Reeves: That's definitely going to be an aspect of the story. He becomes a very mythic character. And he's the Caesar that shall begin other Caesars. Given that we know the ending of the story and we know that Caesar has these ties to humans and to apes, and that everything gets really turned upside down by the world of the '68 film…

The question is how do we get there? And this then becomes a generational story. A story of not only Caesar and his family, but his children and how this story continues down that path. How Caesar becomes the first, truly mythic god-like character for the apes. He's very seminal figure for the apes. The idea, the objective for the story was to being the beginning of that mythic status for him. He goes from being a kind of revolutionary to a kind of leader to a mythic god.

This is the movie that starts the Ape Vs. Human war. Caesar says that himself. It's their shot heard 'round the world, but a building blows up instead. So what's the next step for ape culture?

There's an important moment in the movie where Caesar admits that as much as he felt he was human, and as much as he felt that [James] Franco was his father and he had this connection to humans, in discovering what he was and returning to being an ape and freeing those apes from their bondage and beginning a civilization together — fulfilling that family in a way that he never really quite had when he was young — he really came to believe that apes were better than humans. And would not suffer a similar fate.

The big revelation for him in a very "through the looking glass" science fiction way was just how human the apes are. They came to realize what their limitations where their failing their ability to lose control. To sort of lose their ability to resist violence.. Caesar's constantly struggling against his violent impulses.

Now we start to go into this place where self preservation starts to be the order of the day. He knows there's no going back and explaining, "the apes didn't really mean to attack the humans, they were misled by a rogue ape." That's not something you can really explain to a society. And he realizes that now he has to grapple with the reality. He's got pulls in both worlds, this is going to be a very painful journey for him, and for the apes.

Not sure how many movies this series will go.........but it would be cool if it ended where the original Charlton Heston film began. With the astronauts crash landing thousands of years in the future. (unbeknownst to them )