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Scott Piolli's Top 10 Underclassmen (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=269399)

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9358390)

***** tried to submit a list of candidates he thought would be good fits to Clark and Mangini was on the top of that list. Mangini, Ferentz, Dean Pees, and Paul Pasqualoni were on that list.

Wow

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9357824)

I expect a big ugly upfront at #1. Either it will be LT Joeckel or a DT like Lotuleli IMO.

I bet we bring in Alex Smith and draft a QB with the 2nd pick. Probably Tyler Wilson and then groom him behind Smith for 2-3 years.

Historically both Dorsey (GB) and Reid love addressing the lines early.

This place is going to flip sh*t on here but it is the way I see how things shaking. I would love to know how many teams actually have Geno or any QB in their top 15 overall.

That would be giving up on the team for 3 years, meaning most of our Pro Bowl talent is gone. It assumes that KC fans do not want to advance to the postseason until after 2015 and would be patient to have the same old crap fed to us on a different spoon. It would assume that Dorsey (who has seen two HoF QBs save Green Bay) and Reid (who has seen his teams with McNabb and without) somehow think that a top QB is not important to a winning franchise. It would assume that they would be content with an 8-8 record and picking 13th when a star QB appears in a futures draft. It assumes that the team holding the #1 pick that year will want to trade with us at #13 and will not take better offers elsewhere, leaving us to wait another generation with mediocre QBs until we have the #1 pick again (only to be told by the media that there is no generational QB in the draft) and that we should take a big body that won't make any difference in our win loss record.

If Hunt, Reid and Roberts are that stupid, we are all screwed until the next GM and HC arrive in five years.

I'm confident he would have let Albert walk so he could draft a LT and tell Clark how much $$$ he just saved him.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9358199)

Reid's shell concept is built around his LT, QB, pass rushers and #1 CB. He absolutely places a high value on the LT position.

The most demonstrative pick made, however, was the first one Reid ever made. He knows the value of wrapping up the QB position first and building around it.

THIS, THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

The biggest clue to Reid's plan is this concept of his 'shell'.
You need a plus LT (Albert. already here. just sign the paper. No question marks.)
You need a QB (got nothing. Nothing at all, and the only FA's available also are not anything close to a plus player.)
Pass rushers (we have bookend rushers with Hali and Houston.) The reason you see D-line picks a lot is that they always ran a 4-3, so your pass rushers are ENDS in that case. Here, they are OLB's, and we already have two excellent ones.
#1 corner-we have that too. Flowers needs some help, it's true, but we've got a #1. We need a #2 like we need air, but that's another matter.

In Andy's 'shell' concept, we are missing only the QUARTERBACK. We have OT's. We have pass rushers, we have a corner. we need a QUARTERBACK.

So we could have had Mangini and Joeckel with Bowe and Albert gone. Luckily I don't have to find out how made that would have made me.

I want to ****ing vomit.

If he didn't draft Joeckel, he would have taken ****ing Sharif mother****ing Floyd.

I used to have respect for Peter King, now that fat **** can choke on an AIDS doughnut.

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9357843)

Really? You think Dorsey and Reid, who have both put together SB teams, don't know anything about "modern day" NFL football? But I suppose you believe that you and the other drafturbators, who have never worked for an NFL team, do?

The arrogance on this site is astounding.

He kind of has a point though. Wouldn't signing Alex Smith and not drafting a QB till the late rounds be EXACTLY what the team has done the last couple of decades? We HAVE to go QB number one and I don't give a **** what Kiper or any other slapdick says, their are valid options available.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9358269)

<SHUDDER>

Yup, that's exactly what he was going to do. Jesus, we dodged a bullet on that one, didn't we?

Pepper Johnson as head coach, Wes Welker to replace Bowe, Glennon at QB, Joeckel at LT....Mother of God.

LMAO.

And the kicker would have been the multitude of dumb mother****ers applauding these moves.

What? Welker > Bowe. Joke > Albert. Glennon = franchise QB.

FFS.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9358017)

I would imagine if Scott left under mutual agreement, he's not allowed to talk about his time with the Chiefs in much detail, if at all.

The exact wording Peter King uses in his article to describe Fat Scott's departure from the Chiefs is interesting:

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I asked former Chiefs GM Scott *****, who was in the midst of finalizing the club's preliminary draft board when fired early this month, to examine the record 73 underclass players who declared for the draft and pick the top 10, in his mind.

A misstatement on King's part perhaps, but considering how much of a public mouthpiece King has been for Fat Scott, I wouldn't be surprised if this wording was used intentionally even though the Chiefs official wording was a "mutual parting of ways".

Wow, just wow. It's apparent that a man who was the highest paid GM in the NFL actually knew absolutely nothing about talent evaluation. Pioli was nothing but a Patriot cipher. I knew the guy was a terrible GM, I didn't realize the depths of his incompetence.

This guy is one of the ten BEST underclassmen according to Pioli:

In the official NFL evaluation report that Escobar got lat week, Long said Escobar was projected to go as high as the third round of the draft.

It's not about the best, but the right. Duh.

53 team captains, 2 wins

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9359053)

He kind of has a point though. Wouldn't signing Alex Smith and not drafting a QB till the late rounds be EXACTLY what the team has done the last couple of decades?

Who is advocating not drafting a QB until the late rounds? NAME ONE PERSON. This is a strawman argument.

And it has NOTHING to do with my post, which was about the absurd and quite frankly insane idea that Dorsey and Reid might not know about "modern" NFL football, but people on this forum do. They both have put together SB teams, and none of you have.

You might want to learn reading comprehension.

Scott Pioli had put together super bowl teams too. That line is tired
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