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When a sport as susceptible to fluke upsets as college basketball allows 68 teams into the a single-elimination postseason, it's fun...but it reduces the postseason to a gimmick.

dirk digler

11-12-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10181320)

I know, most folks do.

I'd prefer see a great Duke team take on a great Kentucky squad for a seat at the dance.

The upset is fun in real time, but the consequences are that a team that's ill-equipped to advance often gets piss-pounded.

I rarely root for upsets in football either. I didn't want to see LSU beat Alabama - as a college football fan, I want to see Alabama vs. FSU in the national championship. That's a damn compelling matchup. As a Mizzou fan I'd like to see us upset a team or two, but that's wearing my Mizzou hat.

I recognize why people root for the underdog, I just hate the consequences. I want to see the most talented teams 'survive and advance'.

I understand your point but upsets are what makes sports compelling. No one wants to see the same teams win over and over again.

Bambi

11-12-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10181327)

They were a 5-seed that year. But it's all he could find when asked to prove his assertion.

you sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NC...all_Tournament

Prison Bitch

11-12-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10181325)

Sports schadenfreude should be restricted to hated rivals. Extending it to great teams just because they keep winning is petty.

This happened to me with Duke. Hated them and K forever. Then I woke up one day and thought, "Why do I hate them? Because they're successful?" That's illogical, so I stopped. They win with class and K volunteered to win Gold twice for our country when he doesn't have to. The game is far better and more popular with them. If we lose tonight I won't hate them one bit.

Saul Good

11-12-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10181326)

UCONN was a #3 seed that year. They weren't a blockbuster team but they were far better than some lousy Florida football team.

The Big East was far better than the SEC is this year in football.

Without Alabama the SEC in football this year is simply another conference.

Thanks for spacing out your stupid statements into paragraphs.

1. UCONN was a 3 seed...but a 9 in their own conference tournament.

2. The Big East had the same number of ranked teams as the SEC does...and the Big East had 16 teams.

3. Even if you take out Alabama (why would you?), the SEC would have 7 top 25 teams and 4 top 10 teams. No other conference has more than 4 ranked teams.

Prison Bitch

11-12-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10181340)

you sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NC...all_Tournament

Damn, you're completely right, I was thinking of Arizona being the 5 in that Elite 8 game. Props.

dirk digler

11-12-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10181325)

That would suck.

I don't root against greatness just because it's great.

Sports schadenfreude should be restricted to hated rivals. Extending it to great teams just because they keep winning is petty.

Why would it suck? Obviously they weren't great if they couldn't beat them right? It would be the upset of the century.

And as fellow MU fans we should hate Alabama or any of the rest of the SEC. **** em all.

dirk digler

11-12-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10181342)

That is because you aren't rivals. That would be like saying MU BB fans shouldn't hate KU bb.

Bambi

11-12-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10181345)

Damn, you're completely right, I was thinking of Arizona being the 5 in that Elite 8 game. Props.

All good. UCONN was akin to Alabama in 2011. Shoot, that team didn't even win it's own division and still was given a chance to play for the national title.

That's what's so great about Basketball over Football in college. All the qualified teams are given a chance to prove themselves on the field and not simply the result of how storied your program is.

DJ's left nut

11-12-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10181339)

I understand your point but upsets are what makes sports compelling. No one wants to see the same teams win over and over again.

Achievement is what makes sports compelling.

Bad teams upsetting good teams because the good team had a lousy day isn't compelling at all. Meanwhile a good team going out there against another good team, both teams play their A games and the 'chalk' wins is compelling as hell.

DJ's left nut

11-12-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10181330)

When a sport as susceptible to fluke upsets as college basketball allows 68 teams into the a single-elimination postseason, it's fun...but it reduces the postseason to a gimmick.

I do agree with this as well.

The tournament should be 32 teams at most and frankly, I'd be fine knocking it down to 16.

If they expand it again, I'm likely done with the sport altogether.

Saul Good

11-12-2013 03:05 PM

Baylor trails South Carolina 39-38 in the first half. Dozens of fans are enjoying the action. So far, 29 fouls have been called.

There has been, on average, one foul called every 39 seconds...38 free throws and counting...

WhawhaWhat

11-12-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10181375)

Basketball has almost been unwatchable thus far, although I have only watched about 2/3 of one game spread over 2 games.

Saul Good

11-12-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10181365)

I do agree with this as well.

The tournament should be 32 teams at most and frankly, I'd be fine knocking it down to 16.

If they expand it again, I'm likely done with the sport altogether.

It's not going to expand. If anything, it will shrink to 32 or even 16 if the super conferences decide to split away from the twerps.

WhawhaWhat

11-12-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10181383)

It's not going to expand. If anything, it will shrink to 32 or even 16 if the super conferences decide to split away from the twerps.

In that were the case, they would have to find a way fill that inventory somehow with the games they cut out. Lower inventory = lower TV dollars, plus the contract with CBS/Time Warner still has 12 years to go I believe.

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