Exactly.

Want to represent? What does that mean? I just said, everyone is happy about the move. No results this season would change that. The meaning of the post is obvious. The evidence we have suggests that the standards of play are definitely different.

I'm the one that just said Mizzou would still make a bowl game. Losses to top 10 teams are not much to be worried about IMO. I'm not projecting anything.

We shall see, they were very fortunate to win against Arizona State. Missed extra point was the difference.

Good luck, seriously. I have no loyalty to any other team in the SEC.

Obviously, not all Big 12 fans share that opinion.

So we are lucky because they missed and EP...yet they are [fill in the blank] because we missed 3 FGs.

Yes, extra points are far more automatic and expected.

They aren't beating UCF next week.

0 chance MU would be a top third Big 12 team this year.

You forgot to fill in the blank. I am trying to understand your laffy taffy logic.

I did edit my post. You are the Mizzou fan, you fill in the blank, your post. I see it from a different side.

I don't see how that is out of the realm of possibility.

Ugh. As a KU fan, the last thing I would do after getting beat by NIU would be to come in here and talk shit about MU losing today.

I am not that much of a KU football fan, in fact when I made the post I didn't even know they had lost to NIU.
This post was all about the claims that Saul Good made, the rest is collateral damage. :D There are others and I will find them.

My guess would be that MU fans - while probably disappointed with the last 5/6 quarters of football, are probably about where they expected to be record-wise.

Mizzou will struggle mightily to get to 7 wins this year. In fact, I think I'd call that a success if they do get there.

I actually sympathize with most MU fans on here, and wish them well.
Saul Good, not so much. I am still looking, but he claimed SC was not a factor, and Mizzou would have 9 wins. Wish I was better at the search function.

You might be right, who knows. I think they'll get to 7 wins, personally.

Don't forget; there are two of these threads.

Thanks William, I just found some of the quotes I was referring to.

But I have to be honest, he was talking about last year in those quotes, as that is when they were making the move to the SEC.

My bad I guess.

I'm disappointed we didn't beat Georgia because we definitely could have, and I'm disappointed we didn't show up today. But yeah.

Holy shit

Look at the bright side, Iowa isn't 0-4 like they should be.

Mizzou got beat by two top 10 teams, big whoop. If Vandy pushes their shit in you've got a problem.

But you don't. Keep your heads up, outside of Bama it gets easier from here...

The big issue, in my mind, is the impending QB controversy.

It's about time they realized they have a receiver playing QB.

he'll play on sundays the way that brad smith plays on sundays. he'll make a great returner and decent WR, but as a QB, no thanks.

ROFL Missouri is now the Kentucky of SEC football... except without a top flight basketball program to look forward to. They are the Vanderbilt of the SEC, without the academic reputation.

Are you 50/50?

Man I wish we could be more like the Hurricanes.

http://i.imgur.com/mYYZA.jpg

What, Missouri is some kind of slouch in basketball now?

Norfolkin' way.

Miami is the ACC's bitch. The ACC.

Holy shit. I just saw this crap being spewed by Hemi. What a ****ing loser. Mizzou loses to a couple of top ten teams, and suddenly he's talking shit about my prediction that we would go to a bowl game?

Meanwhile, Kansas has just lost back to back games against Rice (at home) and Northern Illinois and looks like they will not win a single game all year against a division one school, so he's suddenly a KSU fan?

I guess it's easy to bounce from team to team when you weren't smart enough to go to college, but you sure sound stupid when you talk shit from behind the skirts of different teams depending on which direction the wind is blowing.

Back to what I came to post, though...

Just read an article that discussed Florida. If they were to make a run to the title, they would likely have to beat all of the teams currently ranked in the top six.

They have LSU, Florida State, Georgia, and South Carolina on the schedule. They would likely play Alabama in the conference championship game, and then they would have Oregon if Oregon wins out. Tough road...

Sounds like Notre Dame has canceled the Michigan series.

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Despite matching two top 15 teams, last week's big OU-KSU game tanked in the national ratings.

Should be a big eye opener for the appeal of the Big 12 outside of its tiny geographic footprint.

FOX...OU vs KState....1.7 rating
ESPN...Arizona vs Oregon (midnight game here) 2.1 rating
ABC...FSU vs Clemson...3.2 rating
NBC...Notre Dame vs Michigan...4.0 rating

Doesn't help that OU is down, and that KState just isn't a sexy team, at all.

At least a Big12 team has a rap song made about them by Tech N9ne!

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OU wasn't "down" until they lost the game.

Everyone knew coming into the year OU and the Big12 in general was down. Maybe the ultimate suck of the B1G has just masked that a.. a lot.

:hmmm:... I'm not a fan of the children of the corn, but I actually like that.

I loved that.

Kansas trying to out douche Nebraska since 1864 was epic. Always liked ISU and wish them nothing but the best.

I preface this by saying I am a big Miami fan but no Miami fan should talk smack at this point to anyone. Miami is now the NC State of the ACC without a remotely decent basketball team.

LMAO
No bouncing here, I went to WSU and have been a K-State fan since the Jack Hartman days. I love me some KU basketball as well, as I have said many times, all things Kansas.

At least I don't have to jump to soccer to find a team to root for.

That being said, you were the big mouthpiece making all the claims and running down the big 12. You made a lot of claims, and a lot of disparaging remarks about the remaining teams in the big 12. I will enjoy YOUR failures.

Don't you have some payroll checks to sign? Its the end of the month.

This seems like an insanely great idea. I could pick up 11 World Series Wins and a more-recent Super Bowl trophy with an "All Things Missouri" stance.

Duke fans could pick up some football cred with North Carolina or NC State. For fans in California, Florida, Texas, and New York, the sky is the limit! In Florida alone, you've got the Gators, Seminoles, and Hurricanes, one of which should be pretty good at any given time. The professional options are great as well.

I have no idea why more people don't adopt such a stance. Simply brilliant.

let's get back to reality here guys...

Just hang around and learn.

Do you root against Missouri State?

Usually I'm indifferent, although I occasionally root against them.

I'd answer, but ChiefsCountry and I have been getting along so well of late. :)

I am just that way I guess, always wanted them all three to do well. It is really tough when KU is playing K-State.

WSU trumps all though, and on the few occasions when they have played one of the other two, it is all about the Shockers.

Up here, lots of people hate either the Cubs or White Sox if they like one of them. But some, like them both and want to see their local teams do well.

WSU is awesome at football....oh wait.

Guess the Cats and the XII will just have to settle for a tiny footprint but swinging a great big dick.

Its not basketball or college baseball season yet. ;)

I just realized that I've always been a Cardinals fan, and I'll never forget the Rams Superbowl victory.

Celebrates all things Kansas

Is fan of NFL team from Missouri

My friends who are Dodger fans feel the same way about the Giants.

Your baseball program has surpassed ours again. And it's not going to get better playing in the SEC next year.

Time for Jamieson to go. Fresh blood, or they will get killed in conference play.

Steele Jantz's Heisman chances took a minor step back with his performance against Tech.

10/20 passing for 73 yards and 3 INTs, and 19 carries for 14 yards on the ground. Maybe he will slip down to where the Chiefs draft so we don't have to trade up.

Missouri / Texas A&M for WV / TCU is looking mighty good right now...

Physically hes there, but hes still pretty raw and for some reason isn't putting it all together. Still a better talent than Cassel, but like many elite talents... looks like this is another wasted one.

Barnett is probably better off for the team since we have a good running game and defense, and he plays more like the smart veteran.

Cant find Basketball thread. Anybody have a link to ESPN3 tonight to watch Mizzou's Midnight Madness? They have some of it on ESPNU but carrying Mizzou on 3. Thanks

Not so much.

A&M's head coach looks like he knows what he is doing.

Push.

The new SEC teams have a better combined record, and aTm is ranked in the top 15. Neither Big 12 team is ranked. Not a push.

SEC improved & the Big 12 got weaker.

Its a push, A&M is the resaon the SEC won't be in the MNC Game and the B12 likes both their new members.

So, the SEC won't be in the MNC in how many years? And they improved? OK.

Well, if the SEC had added TCU instead of A&M, I'm sure the league wouldn't be facing that "problem."

I genuinely hope that Oregon stumbles and K-State gets to face either 'Bama or Georgia.

I'm just having fun with ya. SEC is still obviously the best football conference in the country, participant or not. Especially at that top. I think depth wise, there is still some argument. Of course, the comparisons are alway skewed a bit with divisional conference. Not having to play every team in your conference can be a blessing some years and a curse others.

I'm still interested in what the SEC and B1G are going to do as the new setup nears. I don't think the SEC is happy at 14 and would much prefer to be at 16. I still think the ACC is going to get canabalized here shortly.

I think the new conference realignment has worked well for everyone except Mizzou & TCU.

Well, I would argue TCU and WVU made a decidedly "step up" in conferences, whereas everyone who left the B12 made a step sideways except Nebraska, and only because of the academic bonuses.

That doesn't mean this conference isn't better than that conference in any given year, but the B12, SEC, B1G and PAC are going to be at the Big Boy table every year. If you go undefeated in one of those conferences, chances are you are going to the MNC, and that won't change much with the new playoffs.

The ACC and BEAST are in that area where the rest of the conference is so bad, it hurts them in the human evaluations that one loss is probably enough to put them out of consideration, and even if they go undefeated, they still might get squeezed.

So, if I were to rank whether conference realignment was more better/more worse fo the school it would be:

1. TCU. They lose the guaranteed wins, but they are smack in the middle of their conference geographical footprint and in one of the biggest cities to boot. In the long run, a good move.

2. Utah. Much like TCU without as much of the metro/geo points, though.

3. WVU. Obviously, they need to improve for the week in/week out competition, but the move up guarantees them a chance at the big party. Geographic isolation a downside, but the culture fits.

4. Nebraska. A step sideways competition and opportunity, but a big opportunity in academic money.

5. A&M. Again, like NU, a step sideways, but the culture fits and they do escape UT shadow a bit. Division fits for them as well.

6. Colorado. Outlier state, but the PAC financial deals and location of most of its alumni make this a decent move for them.

7. Missouri. I'm not hatin' here, but outside of the financials, there isn't much upside in this move. With "stability" no longer the real issue, MU is an outlier state, in the wrong division, with the wrong culture, with dwindling recruiting advantages. The least advantages of any school

That said, looking from the conference perspective:

1. B12. Conference facing extinction and needed two more teams to keep its contract intended for 12. No CCG could be seen as a negative, but internally, that view not necessarily shared. Getting pay on par with the other more established conferences.

2. PAC. Got the big financial deal they wanted, the networks they wanted, and the CCG they wanted. Failed to make the bigger 16 team play and is still somewhat isolated by time zone bias.

3. SEC. The best teams might be there, but as a conference, expansion hasn't yet paid the dividens. This could change if they get the network they want and possibly expand some more. 14 teams creates schedules that means certain teams won't see each other for years at a time. Getting acess to Texas is a plus and Missouri could add if/once the network gets going. But, the buzz about SEC expansion wasn't nearly as impactful as it was in B12 or PAC.

4. B1G. Nebraska is a football "name", but losing their AAU status was bit of the "egg on face". Since the B1G pie was already set, revenues did not really increase, though this could change once renegotiation and possible expansion comes around.

I don't think Mizzou or TCU are anything but thrilled with the move.

LMAO.

You guys are tearing up the SEC.

Valiant trolling attempt.

Given the improved level of competition and the metric shit ton of injuries, making a bowl game in year one in the SEC would be just fine by pretty much any measure.

You guys never won the Big 12 but are somehow going to win a much better conference? Right.