Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9654437)

Yes.

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9653836)

I loved Dany at the beginning, began to wane in the middle, and find her to be an indecisive, idiotically-besotted teenAger with too much power by ADWD.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8601887)

See, I think her story is tedious in book 3. I guess the idea is that she's growing into her power and maturity, and I suppose I'm supposed to give her the benefit of immaturity when I'm getting tired of watching her say "I'm the mother of dragons, you'll do what I want" over and over and over again, but it just seems like a meandering shitshow of a story. It's just her trying to prove what a badass she is, but fairly often failing miserably. The only parts of her story that I actually like are Mormont and Ser Barristan's roles in them.

Book 2 is interesting for her until she gets to Qarth for me. I'm not even all that amazed by the House of the Undying chapter. Maybe I need to read it again, but it just seemed too frenetic and disorganized. I just wanted to be done with it.

She went from an extremely promising character in book 1 to just another demanding but ultimately over-matched 'King' by the end of book 5. Look at it this way - has she been any more successful or less entitled than Joffrey as a ruler? The only distinction is that she !@#$ed her way to the top of a Khalasar before relying on a shaky birthright. And while her motives are determined to be more 'pure', she's still all about killing folks to take over a country because she feels its hers by birth.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9655462)

I've pretty much felt that way about Dany the entire time.

I can't stand her. She's going to end up the main protagonist and I just keep wanting someone to kill her off. She's just a whiny, entitled little brat that eventually becomes a lovesick, entitled whiny little brat.

EDIT: I knew I'd gone over this awhile go:

Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 9661402)

Ths episode had soooo many scenes that were not int he books. Really keeping me on my toes, which I like. Plus the scene with Tywin and Lady Olenna was fun, those two may be my favorite actors on the show. "A sword swallower through and through" Ha! They've given her some of the best lines of the season.

Okay, I admit it, the Arya/Melisandre scene has me intrigued. Who are the people Arya kills. Arya and Mel will meet again??? Oh really?? Hmmmm....

I don't get how the Wall stuff is going to work. Don't they need a larger force of people to try to attack Castle Black? Are they going to raise more people up with a ladder? I'm confused on how that will play out.

Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 9661402)

I don't get how the Wall stuff is going to work. Don't they need a larger force of people to try to attack Castle Black? Are they going to raise more people up with a ladder? I'm confused on how that will play out.

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 9661489)

You posted in spoiler section, do you want to know?

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 9661995)

Loved the snippet of Joffrey having killed Ros. Does something like happen in the book? Pretty sure it's not shown, but is there talk of Joff killing or torturing a girl in the book?

Also, they've traded Edric Storm for Gendry. Fine. I like it. But I can't remember what happens to Edric in the books. Is he still around? Did he get freed? Did they burn him? I can't remember.

Oh, and I've read all the books.

Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 9662003)

He was freed by the onion knight and sent away.

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn (Post 9662011)

Cool, thanks. That's kinda what I thought, but I couldn't remember. Do we know where he is exactly?

Also, did we ever see what happened to Gilly's baby after Jon switched him with Mance's child? Is that kid still alive? They didn't burn it yet, did they?