Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9166033)

To anyone who might possibly have an inkling of making the "well we don't have pitchers, what are ya gonna do, Hoch isn't worse than what we have in AAA or AA", argument, save it.

By offering Hoch a contract, he can refuse and take us to arbitration, In arbitration he'll probably get over $4 million.

We aren't necessarily pissed at having no pitching (though we ought to be able to find pitching in a trade), but if you are going to settle for Hoch, you could get a pitcher as crappy as him for the F'ing major league minimum. And for that money we'd save, maybe we could have paid someone else who was better. But no, we're dumb because Hoch has good stuff and gee wiz gollee gosh, he's always unlucky, but next year is the year, promise! No it, ****ing isn't. Hoch is garbage.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9166078)

This is out of character for me, but I'll offer up the "DM isn't dumb as ****" excuse:

Payroll really is capped at $70M, and DM floated the number in an attempt to get public pressure to cause Glass to raise the self-imposed cap. No deal. Thus, we're forced to trade prospects, and everyone is set on trying to pry Myers from our system. DM, wise as he is, won't do this because he realizes that an average Myers instead of a dog shit Frenchy is worth, literally, about 4 additional wins. A very good starter would be worth about the same.

Thus, DM gambles on a shitty pitcher with stuff in the hopes that it will "all come together."

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9166097)

But instead of spending that $4M on Hoch, go grab someone else off the street for $4M who almost certainly would be better.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9166078)

This is out of character for me, but I'll offer up the "DM isn't dumb as ****" excuse:

Payroll really is capped at $70M, and DM floated the number in an attempt to get public pressure to cause Glass to raise the self-imposed cap. No deal. Thus, we're forced to trade prospects, and everyone is set on trying to pry Myers from our system. DM, wise as he is, won't do this because he realizes that an average Myers instead of a dog shit Frenchy is worth, literally, about 4 additional wins. A very good starter would be worth about the same.

Thus, DM gambles on a shitty pitcher with stuff in the hopes that it will "all come together."

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9166115)

Ladies and Gentlemen: the Kansas City Royals.

The very LAST team who will EVER embrace Sabermetrics. We're living in the stone age, wasting our blessed spot in the easiest-to-win division in MLB.

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9166143)

keithlaw ‏@keithlaw
Seconded. "@mikeaxisa: Can't believe Hochevar wasn't non-tendered."

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9166141)

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9166162)

Aside from that I've always thought you have the second greatest username on the board even though I have no clue what it means.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9166165)

It was supposed to be siberian hat but he has really fat fingers.