Cool factor? killed many a NAZI
AMMO? No you cant get it at wallmart. not mine any ways. But its easy to get & very cheap.Most cheap surplus ammo has a corrosive primer. Clean it good after every range trip . http://www.midwayusa.com/
Cheap? Cause millions were made world wide. MOA 2 to 3 inches. Is plenty for a battle field weapon you paid a $100.00

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/imag...m/RFLR-243.jpg
Panther LR in 243. I was thinking about a Browning BAR in 243 for a new coyote rig.
I think I like DMPS better & its the same money.

Can you point me in the right direction in buying one?

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/70783

Here's buds.

Whats MOA?

No, my fiancé thinks the wedding is more important.

Angers me. Who saves money when we are less than two years from a zombie apocalypse.

Minot of angle. = how accurate your rifle is. Its big time bench rest talk & that all it is really. Few men can actually out shoot or shoot better than their weapons will allow with open sights . In my younger days i was a MOA shooter but alast im getting old & relegated
to MOofTorso
as for buying? Buds aint bad. pawn shop gunshow ect will all have them. if you can find one built before Hitler headed to Moscow. chances will be that its a better rifle. Q/T was not being pressed yet at this time. bombs weren't being lobed at munition plants yet either.
Dont pay over 100
PS this rifle can be frustrating for someone who dose not shoot a lot. I would never recommend this rifle for someones first. Vertical adjustment is at the front sight & takes a tool. Has to be cleaned & cleaned good. Kicks like a mule. Is a HUGE heavy rifle. Rifle cycle is to slow to be a good Zombie killer. & its way to long to be a home defense weapon. You will stick it through your Drywall before you get it aimed during a home invasion.

Spend an extra $150 and buy a decent SKS. They are relatively inexpensive, semi-automatic, reasonably accurate out to a couple hundred yards, ammo (7.62x39) is readily available and cheap, and they are a lot of fun to shoot.

Mosin-Nagants... :shake:

Thought this was a cool article.
A gun that fired shells 75 miles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

Sks is $350 at buds. I think my brother has one.

I'd rather have an ak47.

My dream guns have always been:

1. M1 garand
2. M4
3. Ak47
4. M16
5. Glock or s&w .40

Just a man crush on guns I have.

What's everybody elses dream guns? Guns you can legally have.

If you want a Garand http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm
I have most of mine.

I'd love to save up and buy one. One that I can shoot.

I'd love for my fiancé to inherite her great grandpas from her grandpa. I'd never shoot it but I wouldn't care.

Some day I'll have my dream guns. I may be 40, but I'll have them.

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watch the barrel whip on the AK-47

Nothing wrong with a Mosin-Nagants. just dnt go thinking its a tack driver. dnt freak when you see how hard the action is on them either.
if you go after a SKS??? look for one made in Russia by Tula. will cost a lil more.
but much better metal lurgy involved than a China made sks

I have a man crush on WWII infantry weapons. I'd take them over any current guns. I have my home defense guns. Anything else is just a new toy to play with.

Bah pre-WWII is better! I will own a 1928(well unless I get a 1921 colt! ;) ).

Any suggestions on a good revolver?

I plan on shooting my 9mm Glock regularly until I'm comfortable and reasonably accurate with it, but I think I'd also like to buy a higher-caliber revolver that looks nice and shoots well later this summer, if I can afford it.

Im not a modern revolver man. Now if you wanna talk black powder revolvers. Ive been shooting them since the mid 70s & own many.
I do like my friends Ruger Black hawk in 357mag. very comfy for me to shoot. I would hate to be on the bizz end of that revolver even at a 100 yards

"high-caliber" being a .357 or .454?

This...or Yugoslavian

Got it yesterday, now have to wait to go shoot it. Can't effing wait! In the meantime, I may find a holster for it. Gun show down in Tarrytown today, 1 1/2 hr. drive though- maybe I'll find one there. Wouldn't mind finding a good deal on a 12 G pump, too.

Anyone see those new Remmy 877's with the armorlokt coating? I don't know what to make of it.

Great tip, thanks for sharing.

another stupid question from the gun n00b.

What is an objective standard for being a "poor", "OK", "good" and "elite" marksman with a pistol? Say, from 10-15 feet, 25 feet, and 50 feet?

Today I fired another hundred rounds while learning how to shoot, and by the end, I was able to get to the point where I hit a 5 inch target from about 10 or 15 feet away roughly 2/3 of the time. Thats a lot better than last week, but I have no idea if thats bad, good or what.

http://tactical22.net/sig/SIG522LR-1.gif

I'm picking up my Sig522 from Pants tonight. Can't wait.

Absolutely. I actually like to use the pad of my index finger, the center of that swirly part in your fingerprint, and put the center of the trigger on that. I practice this with both handguns and rifles every time I shoot.

SKS’s. I’ve got a Norinco, Chinese, that’s a damn sweet shooting rifle but I looked it over carefully before I bought it. Particularly the chrome in the barrel, a notorious weak spot for Norinco’s. Any crack, split or seam in the chrome and walk away.
I bought mine back in ’93 when a gun shop was selling them in boxes still packed in cosmoline for $60. I wish I’d have bought 5 at the time, even the Chinese ones go for around $300 now.

Well, the new holster for my H&K showed up last night - I specifically referenced the fitting charts and selected a Blackhawk Omega VI because it would fit my pistol with the laser sight/light.

And of course, they sent me the wrong model. :grr: I hate returning stuff online - what a pain in the ass.

I hear ya. Online shopping sucks when they send you the wrong shit.

She's a beauty.

The 556 SWAT is heavy as ****, I can't imagine how I'm going to be accurate for an extended period of time shooting that thing. I guess I need to get stronger.

:thumb: That is what I meant to say, just didn't explain it as well.

I bet it doesn't hold anything against my PTR-91KF, that thing is 10+ lbs. with a full mag.

Not high caliber, but I can shoot this little number out to 100 yards.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/att...hornet-gun.jpg
Not mine, but very similar.

I have mine scoped with a 4x6 Bushnell Elite and shoot hornady ballistic tips. Killed a doe with it at 80 yds.

^ That looks incredibly fun.

Dang!

:Looking for a AR-15 type weapon. Been reading about how the HK416 is better than the M4.

What do you thing about this weapon?

HK MR556 A5 Rifle in 5.56mm with 16in barrel in black.

Like the HK416, the MR556 is a major product improvement of conventional AR-type carbines and rifles. Using the HK-proprietary gas piston system found on the HK416 and G36, the MR556 does not introduce propellant gases and carbon fouling back into the rifle's interior, making it the most reliable of any AR-type firearm. The MR556 uses many of the assemblies and accessories originally developed for the HK416 series arms including the HK free-floating four-quadrant rail system/handguard. This system allows all current accessories, sights, lights, and aimers used on M4/M16-type weapons to be fitted to the MR556. The HK rail system can be installed and removed without tools and returns to zero when reinstalled. Like the famous HK416, the MR556 uses a barrel produced by Heckler & Koch's famous cold hammer forging process. The highest quality steel is used in this unique manufacturing process producing a barrel that provides superior accuracy for more than 20,000 rounds with minimal degradation of accuracy and muzzle velocity.

My memory is pretty rotten right now. Did I tell y'all I ordered one of these Czech vz.24 a few weeks ago? She's a beauty queen, they ground off the crest but the guns in great shape (considering). Recommended, if you're looking for a bruised shoulder.

I just got my New Glock SF 21 yeasterday with 2-13 round clips , (the SF stands for small frame.) Have not shot it yet but the gun feels great in the hand...


http://rowell.smugmug.com/photos/361487071_K3ESP-L.jpg

This guy is insane on his torture tests on a glock...
http://www.theprepared.com/index.php...ask=view&id=90

You looking to spend $2,000+?

Damn. :eek: He must really hate his Glock.

So here's a question(as someone who looked at the HK too), why do you think a gas piston system is better? Because marketing tells you it is?

So the DI versus piston discussion is a long one and in short the differences between the two are somewhat of a wash. One is not clearly better than the other. Maybe if you are shooting sustained full auto it's a bit better but it's not clear in the AR platform that it is.

Advantages to Direct impingement(i.e. the original design).
-simple
-reliable
-lightweight
-supports any number of standard off the shelf custom forgrips/parts etc.
-tends to be a bit better accuracy in single shot(or that tends to be the claim)

Con
-Gas is dumped in receiver causing more potential for fouling and a greater requirement to keep it clean

Advantages to Gas Piston
-Gas vents externally allows for a significantly cleaner action.
-greater tolerance for variations in ammo

Con
-heavier
-every gas piston is proprietary no parts interchange need custom handgaurds
-more (and complex) parts tend to be less reliable
-much more costly(because it's all proprietary)

Technically there's not a huge difference between the two, but the gas system will be more expensive and you'll have less customization options for your rifle. In exchange you get a cleaner action which will need less cleaning. If you put away your guns without cleaning then that may be an advantage. But for me no gun gets put away without being cleaned and oiled. So the extra cost buys me very little.

I went back and forth a long time to see if I wanted one but I ultimately decided no. If I want to add one later then I'm sure I can.

For me to add one later I want the piston attached to the bolt(so you have less bolt tilt and receiver wear) and I want it to fit under a Daniel Defense handguard.

So I've been looking at ammo prices recently; trying to determine what to buy. Do any of you have experience with 545 caliber? 545 ammo is about 1/2 the price of 556/762. I ran across this - http://www.centerfireguns.com/smith-...mm-811011.html

Thoughts?

http://inbox.apana.org.au/wp-content...rcraft-gun.jpg

Little something i bought off ebay. Little underpowered but adequate enough for conceal and carry.

Heh I just say this and see they may have release a piston that would interest me....

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I've never really understood the fascination with gas piston systems. The price difference just isn't worth it to me. If the gas piston didn't have so many of its own drawbacks, or if the accuracy was a noticeable improvement, I could understand.

Holy shit...I just found my new lower!

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Fully supports ANY AR-15 milspec upper....yet magwell designed for 5.56 OR 7.62 so in a sense it's the ultimate hybrid AR-15/AR-10. I just hope the lower takes all AR-15 parts too!

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Well, if you're the kind of guy that goes out and caps off a few thousand rounds in an afternoon it's less likely to jam. That seems to be just about it though.

If the shit hits the fan, I'd rather have something that will take longer to jam. Once that happens, I can set my gas valve to the "emergency" setting and keep shooting some more. :)

The day my concealed carry comes in I am going to buy this gun

http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/627SS6.jpg

If you're going to CC that are you sure it'll still reliably fire all covered in shit?

Thats the house gun... no CC with that one. Just bought the Glock SF 21 a few days ago Sold the Ruger P90

Also, the wife does not pull the slide back very well on the glock

Preparation for the Zombie Apocalypse. Understandable.

Great story about Snipers doing an unbelievable job.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/b...ers-story.html

So after seeing "Battle: Los Angeles" last night, I decided I better get serious about getting an AR. I was checking more on ammo prices (545 vs 556) and am seeing that the really cheap 545 ammo ($0.12/rd) has "lacquer coated" steel casing and I've been told to avoid that as it is corrosive. The next cheapest 545 ammo I'm seeing is between $0.24 and $0.26 per round.

The 556 ammo I'm seeing as low as $0.20/rd on one site - http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...oducts_id/2589

Do you guys have favorite ammo brands, or any advice on which to stay away from?

Man, I put 300 rounds through my Sig 556 last Sunday and that thing shoots like a dream. Goddamn.

picked up another henry 22.

Large loop lever or standard? Any gun/pawn shops in town to stay away from?

standard. i like steves(EDI),loftis,cherokee. My hombre has an inside track on firearms. Let me know what youre lookin for and ill run it by him.

I've put about 600 rounds through my .22 rifle (Marlin 981T) over the past week and a half. I'm thinking about adding a Ruger 10/22 to my collection. I need a semi-auto .22 rifle, since working a bolt action a few hundred times per session can get tiring.

I've been an owner of several Ruger 10/22s. Had one of them for close to 20 years now. It's a perfect 22. Infinite accessories, including some huge mags. Easy to maintain.

You won't be disappointed.

My 8 year old daughter with her new Henry 22. She went with me, on her first 3 day feather murder hunting trip.
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I ended up buying a Ruger 10/22 yesterday. Got it brand new at Dick's Sporting Goods. It was marked at $209.99, but I got it for $199.99. I guess they were running a sale for $10 off. I can't wait to shoot the piss out of it this weekend. I'm already looking at some new parts for it, like a different stock, barrel, trigger, optics, etc.

which one?

Like this MG-42 kit for the Ruger 10/22
http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dim...0,300&cvt=jpeg

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=180441

It was the base Carbine model. I plan on putting at least 1500 rounds this weekend, and I'll decide what I need to mod first.

Popped of a 10/22 w/ a 30 rnd clip while my dad was nappin.

He come out screamin about vietnam. lol.

LiveStream are you sayin i bought a little girls gun?

Mine eats cheep Rem Thunder bolts very well. My Butler Creek mags SUCK!
My Ram-line 50 round mags work great. I haven't tried steal lip mags yet.
Its a 75 yard rifle at best. It dnt need a lot of after market crap. IMO
NOPE. said nothing about Henry being a girls gun. Santa just happen to leave my child one under the tree 2 years ago.

Sweet, take a pic and show it off when you add the mods :thumb:

Well..... that depends on the shooter...

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I was thinking more along these lines as a 75 to a 100 yard gun

Now this is hot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...=feeds-newsxml

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I picked up a Remington 870 Supermag w/ a 26" barrel at Sports Authority for $329. I had to get black synthetic, but still a good deal.

I laughed, then remembered that I did the same thing to my driver side mirror. (not w/a .50 cal)

Bob Dole's dealer friend has ordered a Kel-Tec KSG 12ga Bullpup for Bob Dole to check out. Don't really have a practical use for one (yet), but it sure looks like fun.

I just got one hell of a deal on 5 boxes S&W .500 ammo at Cabelas. The stuff is hard to find and very hard to find at a decent price. I went into another store today to get something else and they were closing out 5 boxes for .500, yeah, I had to. :facepalm: I'm now up to 400 rounds for that beast, with what I had, along with what I bought today. I'm going to try to dump at least 100 rounds on my brother. :)

Dude, Zombie Apocalypse. You’re brother will come looking for those 100 rounds on his own in 2012.

Thats why I started reloading for this round...got too damn expensive to shoot otherwise.

Yeah bud, I have the garlic, bear spray and shotguns! I'm ready! BRING IT zombie bitches!

http://www.readyfordoomsday.com/wp-c...03/zombie1.jpg

You want a good deal an a bunch of once shot .500 brass?

I could probably use another couple hundred or so once fired brass depending on what you have. Let me know what you have and what you'd need to part with 'em.