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jonzie04 04-04-2015 11:56 PM
Speaking of PJ Williams

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...rested-for-dui

could be a great get in round 2 or 3.

aturnis 04-06-2015 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11407666)
He did.

But the defense was killing it for the first 9 games of the '13 season in his that coverage scheme with Houston, and the bottom fell out when Houston was injured.
Agree. Don't forget about injuries in the secondary either.

This was my reasoning for continuing to support Sutton.

KChiefs1 04-09-2015 12:54 PM
Potential trade rumor:

Cleveland trades picks 43, 111 and 115 to KC for picks 49, 80 and 217.

The Franchise 04-09-2015 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11427506)
Potential trade rumor:

Cleveland trades picks 43, 111 and 115 to KC for picks 49, 80 and 217.
With no link?

KChiefs1 04-09-2015 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11427741)
With no link?

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl/rumors/

redshirt32 04-10-2015 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11427506)
Potential trade rumor:

Cleveland trades picks 43, 111 and 115 to KC for picks 49, 80 and 217.
Pick 217 is a comp pick cannot be traded

KevB 04-13-2015 01:54 PM
Here's the most likely trade down scenario IMO:

TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline reports that the Dallas Cowboys are "very high" on Wisconsin RB Melvin Gordon III and could target him in round 1.
"I'm told the Dallas Cowboys very high on Melvin Gordon/RB/Wisconsin and are targeting him in round one. Trade up?," Pauline tweeted. With veteran RB Darren McFadden holding down the position, the Cowboys could be looking for their future back with the No. 27 pick. The reality is, there are other RB-needy teams selecting before them in the Chargers, Lions, and Cardinals. The Cowboys will have to find a way to move up, if Gordon is their guy.

The Chargers take either Gurley or Gordon, and there are at least 3 teams in the 20's that could be targeting the other likely 1st round RB.

kccrow 04-13-2015 03:19 PM
I don't really see a team moving up for a running back, but you never know.

The team I could see moving up is Carolina for a tackle. There are teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Detroit that could easily take one in front of them. They may even want to move up to KCs spot to make sure KC doesn't take one. Carolina really, really needs to get a top left tackle prospect and they might just be smart to move up and get the one they covet.

Theoretically, Carolina gives up a 1st (25), 3rd (89), 5th (161), and 6th (201) for KC's 1st (18). With two 5th round comp picks, the 5th and 6th rounders aren't complete deal breakers and it keeps them from giving up their 4th instead.

Carolina ends up with 1st (18), 2nd (57), 4th (124), 5th (169*), 5th (174*), and 7th (242).

KC ends up with 1st (25), 2nd (49), 3rd (80), 3rd (89), 3rd (98*), 4th(118), 5th (161), 5th (172*), 5th (173*), 6th (193), 6th (201), 6th (217*), and 7th (233).

That'd give KC alot of ammunition. This is all theory of course, but its likely close to the compensation level.

ct 04-14-2015 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11434614)
I don't really see a team moving up for a running back, but you never know.

The team I could see moving up is Carolina for a tackle. There are teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Detroit that could easily take one in front of them. They may even want to move up to KCs spot to make sure KC doesn't take one. Carolina really, really needs to get a top left tackle prospect and they might just be smart to move up and get the one they covet.

Theoretically, Carolina gives up a 1st (25), 3rd (89), 5th (161), and 6th (201) for KC's 1st (18). With two 5th round comp picks, the 5th and 6th rounders aren't complete deal breakers and it keeps them from giving up their 4th instead.

Carolina ends up with 1st (18), 2nd (57), 4th (124), 5th (169*), 5th (174*), and 7th (242).

KC ends up with 1st (25), 2nd (49), 3rd (80), 3rd (89), 3rd (98*), 4th(118), 5th (161), 5th (172*), 5th (173*), 6th (193), 6th (201), 6th (217*), and 7th (233).

That'd give KC alot of ammunition. This is all theory of course, but its likely close to the compensation level.
I'm a dreamer too, but i do not see the liklihood of giving up 3 picks to move up 7 spots. We'd do well to get their 3rd and 5th, even if the "points" don't add up. jmo

kccrow 04-14-2015 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ct (Post 11435920)
I'm a dreamer too, but i do not see the liklihood of giving up 3 picks to move up 7 spots. We'd do well to get their 3rd and 5th, even if the "points" don't add up. jmo
Probably would be what would happen. That's why I spoke as "theoretical" in my post. A trade a couple years ago from 30 to 22 resulted in a 3rd and 6th with a loss of 16 points. A trade last year from 27 to 20 only resulted in a 3rd with a loss of 34 points. There was a trade a couple years ago from 16 to 8 that did net 3 picks in the same draft (2, 3, 7) and was a gain in points.

It really depends on the teams trading. Knowing KCs history, they almost always are losers in draft day trades so a 3rd and a 5th or 6th is probably a best case scenario for them with only a 3rd being the most likely.

ct 04-16-2015 07:46 AM
What I would love to see is somebody offer their 3rd to move up to 18, we drop maybe 6-8 spots to around the mid-20s, grab CB like Johnson, Collins, or Jones, then use that very 3rd round pick to move up into first few spots of 2nd, mid-30s, and snag WRs agholor or dorsett if they slide out of 1st into 2nd.

The Franchise 04-16-2015 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ct (Post 11439875)
What I would love to see is somebody offer their 3rd to move up to 18, we drop maybe 6-8 spots to around the mid-20s, grab CB like Johnson, Collins, or Jones, then use that very 3rd round pick to move up into first few spots of 2nd, mid-30s, and snag WRs agholor or dorsett if they slide out of 1st into 2nd.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=291858

ct 04-16-2015 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11439951)
done, book it


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