I don't believe you.

ComoDragon

and again no ****s were given.

Who gives a shit about other teams.

How about we stop pretending that the Chiefs would 'rape faces' if the only thing we changed was some magical superstar QB we missed out on [Rodgers being the exception] or upgrading team deficiencies if a waste of team so long as Alex is our QB.

Poor Hootie. So pathetic...... LMAO

I've never been a staunch proponent of WAR, but I understand why people use it. WAR has been around for a number of years and baseball in general is easier to analyze through statistics. The article you posted uses an equation made up by one guy who has an agenda.

But he's talking about football! Doesn't matter that he's almost always wrong and admittedly said himself he's trolling

Nate Silver has an agenda?

That article actually had nothing to do with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Well, Peyton Manning a little bit.

I used his analysis to spawn this thread.

I found the WAR measurement to be interesting.

12.6 - 13.4
8 - 16

By that metric, replacement level QB is supposed to go 1-1 in the playoffs playing instead of Tom Brady and 1-2 in the playoffs playing instead of Peyton Manning.

Kinda dispels the notion Brady has never had enough weapons...

Unless you don't agree with WAR. I follow advanced statistics, Nate Silver is a highly respected advanced statistics guy ... so it's not gospel.

Pretty sure if it said something like :

Tom Brady : 8 - 18
Peyton Manning : 12 - 12

everyone would be like "omg hahahahah omg Peyton hahahah omg so bad!"

But, instead, it painted a picture that Tom has been on better teams his whole career so now it's just a nonsense agenda.

YEP.

GOT IT.

NOT ENOUGH WEAPONS!

Dear guy no one has ever heard of:

I said, in one post, the THREAD TITLE was a TROLL meant to GARNER ATTENTION.

At no other point in this thread, other than the knive juggling post, was a trolling anyone.

I've tried to discuss the featured article on ESPN.com's fivethirtyeight written by Nate Silver.

But, instead, the usual suspects showed up to tell me I'm pathetic, which, is pretty hypocritical considering I can post this thread once a day and get 500 responses every single time by the same 5 guys.

All I want is REAL DISCUSSION!

Tom : 12.6 - 13.4
Peyton: 8 - 16

REPLACEMENT LEVEL QB

DISCUSS!

PLEASE!

Suffers from the same problem all QB metrics do: isolating the effect of QB play. Stats like adjusted yards per attempt are great at measuring the effectiveness of a team's passing attack, which is whole lot more than QB performance.

I don't see how the idea of a replacement level QB solves the issue at all. You're simply measuring the Green Bay (or whoever) passing attack versus the average passing attack of a team with an injured QB, not Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is a great QB, not doubt, but his coach and GM are pretty good, too. Didn't Flynn set some club records a few years ago?

You really shouldn't be surprised that if you cover yourself with shit, people will tell you smell, Hootie. That doesn't make it a good thing.

Hootie, when posters say that Brady hasn't had the same caliber of weapons as Manning, they are talking about offensive weapons. If you want to include their defenses, fine, but you are arguing with yourself when you choose to do that. Nobody in their right mind is saying Manning has had the same type of defenses on his teams that Brady has.

Weapons are weapons, bro. Tom has had better teams in more postseason games than Peyton, and it clearly isn't close

Stop trolling me or I'll report you. I can't handle it.

I'm trying to help you.