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Reaper16 12-20-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8223303)
Curious about your methodology:

Do you take notes throughout the year on the albums to go back and look at? I think that if I did a list like this, I would have a bad tendency to really weigh albums that I'm buzzing on toward the end of the year (like the Oscars), and I'd forget a bunch of the albums I liked from earlier in the year.

The TVOTR album, for instance, was awesome. It would be high on my list for sure. That being said, I haven't listened to it in probably 5 months. On the other hand, right now I can't get enough of WU LYF, but that's because I've been listening to them nonstop for the last 48 hours. Who knows if they'd make my list in six months... but right now.. they'd be toward the top.

I think I actually overcorrect that tendency; I tend to give major weight to albums that come out early in the year and still get listened to. Bad Time Zoo and The One... Cohesive enjoy that extra weight.

I keep a running list of favorites that I update every three months. It helps me keep track of how much albums are rising or falling in estimation over time.

I spend a lot of time and energy into the ordering. I put a lot of unnecessary stress on myself making sure that I'm giving a fair shake to recent albums and early-year albums.

Molitoth 12-20-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8219877)
46.) La Dispute - Wildlife
La Dispute are a post-hardcore band who are sort of reclaiming the original intent of the emo movement. I’m talking about way back when emo was first applied to a subgenre of hardcore punk. Las Dispute’s songs scoff at conventional song structure; there are basically no choruses on the album at all. Instead, each song is a carefully paced narrative, with the importance placed on the lyrics and vocal performance. I don’t know the name of La Dispute’s vocalist, but he has one of the most sincere and affecting voices I’ve heard out of this scene. His lyrics are always drenched with emotion, sure, but it is specifically his delivery that moves his audience. And you will be moved. Just listen to the song I’ve linked to, album standout “King Park,” which tells the story of innocent lives taken by stray bullets. When, during the song’s crushing climax, the vocalist gives a repeated cry of “Will I still get into Heaven if I kill myself?” you will feel desperation and fear right alongside the character. This album is one of the most genuinely moving emotional experiences I’ve had listening to music this year.


Wow, just wow. I've NEVER heard vocals like that before. I dislike most Post-Hardcore because typically the vocalist is just screaming his head off being a reerun. I know because I've had the unfortunate circumstances of playing aside a lot of these bands in the Kansas City area when it was all the rage a few years back.

This kid reminds me a lot of Zack De la Rocka. He has a terrifying, yet mesmerizing voice... and an extremely odd way about going at vocals.

Instead of finding words that rhyme, or setting up certain structures... he just reads it as it is on paper and lets his emotion of tone do the talking. As a vocalist myself, I find this method easy and hard to do at the same time.

Lyric/harmonies/chorus structures are all a part of the writing process, and a lot of times make writing a lot harder than just jotting down what your thinking on a piece of paper and calling it good.
It's also easy to over-critique lyrics and change/mash them up multiple times until you feel something makes more sense/ sticks to the storyline / or removing easy to use words such as "I, we, you, them, etc". SO in turn, makes the process more difficult and time consuming.

This kid bypasses some of the most tedius things in vocal writing and just seems to sing word for word what he's reading... the thing is, he presents PASSION about his story, and as a listener... you WANT to hear how it ends. Which makes the last line of the song fucking awesome. Because he didn't want to see how it ends.

As I listened, I thought about how awesome this vocalist could be if he went with a more traditional way of writing vocals, but at the same I loved what he did because I respect what it takes to do, and it is something that is new to me.

Although I'm still skeptical about listening to an entire album of this style.

Thanks for the link reaper.

Molitoth 12-20-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8222744)
9.) Wolverine – Communication Lost

This is a progressive rock album that everybody is sleeping on. Who has even heard of this album? You should probably listen to it, though. I’d say that fans of harder prog rock like Tool or Oceansize or Riverside would like this, even though Wolverine doesn’t actually have all that much in common with them. I guess they might be as much metal as they are rock. Whatever. The melodies are deliberate and frequently gorgeous. The songs have an organic pacing to them and there is a complete lack of ornate instrumentation thrown in for no reason (as is the downfall of many prog albums). My favorite part of this album are the vocal harmonies and how they are complimented and lifted by the lead guitars. I guess I’m most reminded of Green Carnation when I listen to this album, which is probably why I love it so much. Tracks like “Your Favorite War” are sweeping and emotional like the best Broadway show closing songs, without being one bit cheesy. Please listen to the linked track, “Communication Lost.” It’s one of the most uplifting, feel-good rock songs of the year to me. The album builds up the whole time to that song and its climax, and the release that you get for getting to that point is something that is only possible in the rarest of progressive albums. It’s a HUGE moment, and it totally destroys the forced hugeness of pop albums like M83’s and Florence + the Machine 2011 albums (and I really, really like those albums; they place #39 and #38 respectively in my list). This album may actually rise in esteem for me over the years.

This is where you caught my attention. I'm a prog-rock lover, so mentioning Tool, Oceansize, and Riverside clearly stood out to me. At first listen, I notice the vocalist is a bass-baritone (same as I) which has been somewhat rare to find for me now days. I liked the two songs and am currently downloading the album. The prog/art-rock scene is very small, so I'm really hoping to find a gem here.

EDIT: I ended up not liking the album. I've heard this done too many times so it brought me nothing I've not already heard a zillion times. The band while solid, did nothing incredibly technical that stood out, and the vocalist ended up being yet another typical prog-metal style with an over use of vibrato. While some prog lovers just LOVE and DROOL over that kind of vocal, I can't ****ing stand it... it always sounds so forced.

the Talking Can 12-20-2011 03:03 PM

love this thread

Death Grips is fan ****ing tastic, thanks for the tip

Reaper16 12-20-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8223502)
Wow, just wow. I've NEVER heard vocals like that before. I dislike most Post-Hardcore because typically the vocalist is just screaming his head off being a reerun. I know because I've had the unfortunate circumstances of playing aside a lot of these bands in the Kansas City area when it was all the rage a few years back.

This kid reminds me a lot of Zack De la Rocka. He has a terrifying, yet mesmerizing voice... and an extremely odd way about going at vocals.

Instead of finding words that rhyme, or setting up certain structures... he just reads it as it is on paper and lets his emotion of tone do the talking. As a vocalist myself, I find this method easy and hard to do at the same time.

Lyric/harmonies/chorus structures are all a part of the writing process, and a lot of times make writing a lot harder than just jotting down what your thinking on a piece of paper and calling it good.
It's also easy to over-critique lyrics and change/mash them up multiple times until you feel something makes more sense/ sticks to the storyline / or removing easy to use words such as "I, we, you, them, etc". SO in turn, makes the process more difficult and time consuming.

This kid bypasses some of the most tedius things in vocal writing and just seems to sing word for word what he's reading... the thing is, he presents PASSION about his story, and as a listener... you WANT to hear how it ends. Which makes the last line of the song fucking awesome. Because he didn't want to see how it ends.

As I listened, I thought about how awesome this vocalist could be if he went with a more traditional way of writing vocals, but at the same I loved what he did because I respect what it takes to do, and it is something that is new to me.

Although I'm still skeptical about listening to an entire album of this style.

Thanks for the link reaper.

I agree; his vocal performance is cheating in some respects, as it is almost inherently un-musical. But he gets away with it because of how sincere and effective his passionate delivery is. That un-musical quality is what makes Wildlife such an interesting album to listen to.

NewChief 12-20-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8223702)
I agree; his vocal performance is cheating in some respects, as it is almost inherently un-musical. But he gets away with it because of how sincere and effective his passionate delivery is. That un-musical quality is what makes Wildlife such an interesting album to listen to.

Reminds me of The Hold Steady of hardcore.

Captain Obvious 12-20-2011 03:46 PM

Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.

siberian khatru 12-20-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8222038)
17.) Steven Wilson – Grace for Drowning


Steven Wilson, in the absence of a Porcupine Tree album, released one Hell of a solo album this year. It’s 2 discs (!) and Wilson considers it part of a loose conceptual album cycle with Opeth’s Heritage (#36 on my list). It does similar things as the Opeth album: it looks backwards at prog giants from the past – King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes – and wears those influences on its sleeve and also constructs the sleeve itself out of those influences and the whole shirt too is made of those influences too. It’s what you’d expect of Steven Wilson: tight songwriting (despite the length of songs), a few grand tracks, a few experiments that never achieve full lift-off. It doesn’t have the song structure issue that the Opeth album does, but it does suffer in my opinion of being too reliant upon sounds from the past. Still, this is a dynamic and enjoyable album on a number of levels. If I could like you to the 25-minute long “Raider II” I would, but instead you can settle for a 9-minute long song. Despite the flaws of these two albums, I’m excited for the third and final album in this cycle coming next year – a album that Wilson and Mikael Akerfeldt (of Opeth) are writing and performing together.


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This was an album that was a very challenging initial listen, but has grown on me tremendously. As much as I have come to really like the album, the material is even much better live. For instance, I felt "Raider II" on disc was overindulgent and needed some editing, but live it was absolutely epic ... my jaw literally was agape.

You make a very good point about relying too much on sounds of the past. From the first listening, I was sitting there going, "That sounds like 'Devil's Triangle' on 'In the Wake of Poseidon,' that sounds like something from 'Red,' that sounds like 'Cirkus' on 'Lizard ...'"

Still, I really like it, more so than "Insurgentes" (which isn't bad).

NewChief 12-20-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8223752)
Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.

Their first album was fantastic. I haven't listened to the second though.

htismaqe 12-20-2011 04:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86rBqdx_uc

noa 12-20-2011 10:39 PM

Das Racist is good stuff. I got a leather jacket, I got a little hat on, I'm drinking carbonated water by the quarter gallon, I drive an eagle talon....
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Molitoth 12-21-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8223887)

Cookie Monster pterodactyl!

NewChief 12-21-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8223752)
Might not be your type of music, but I have been digging Dawes-Nothing Is Wrong. It's been my favorite album all year.

Listened to the second album last night. It's not as good as the first (imo), but it's still solid. I prefer Middle Brother's album for 2011 (Middle Brother, if you don't know, consists of the singers from Dawes, Deer Tick, and Delta Spirit).

htismaqe 12-21-2011 10:18 AM

I keep trying to read Reaper's list but I never can get past #42.

ROFL

NewChief 12-21-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8225335)
I keep trying to read Reaper's list but I never can get past #42.

ROFL

Their previous album Enter the Vulva of Vishneka was superior, imo.


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