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Reerun_KC 11-13-2012 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9115129)
Alot of fans seem to think that the only situation in which to draft a QB is when its an Elway, Manning or Luck coming out. In other words, the "Perfect Situation"

Theres a good chance the 1st rounder you draft will be the next Bledsoe or Kerry Collins rather than the next Elway. But thats ok. You can win with guys like that too. I just dont get this scared mentality alot of Chiefs fans seem to have. We are already at rock bottom, what do we have to lose?
exactly..

We have no where else to go. We are about as low as you can go. We need to invest in a what works. Teams rebuild and build championship teams with QB's. This not ****ing rocket surgery...

DaKCMan AP 11-13-2012 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gochiefss (Post 9115020)
we don't need a super elite franchise QB to be good. Even if the guy we drafted turned out to be an Andy Dalton type, that would be leaps and bounds better than what we currently have.
WTF? Do you want to be an average team or compete for championships?

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9115035)
I have really wanted Marty to come in and be a consultant for several months. Now that it is happening, I am having my doubts about it. Originally, I thought Marty would come in and speak only to Clark and he would be a guy Clark could trust. I thought maybe he could teach Hunt about the business and police Pioli at the same time.

Unfortunately, now I don't think that's the case. This makes me think Pioli's clearly got Clark by the balls if Marty is telling Clark to be patient. I think Pioli has Marty by the balls. Pioli probably thought it was in his best interest to keep his enemy closer than his friends.

Pioli probably called Marty before Clark did. That's the way psychopaths work. It suprises me that so many still underestimate Pioli so much.
Are you bi-polar?

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 9115092)
I agree. I just don't want to see us reach on Smith or Barkley and waste a few more years giving them a chance only to start over again. My post was not to say we need a LB more. Just that these QB's really suck IMO.
Did you think Roethlisberger and Rodgers sucked too?

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9115122)
Have you watched these guys play? Let's just take Tyler Bray for example. He is something like 1-14 against SEC teams and he has had the best WR core in the SEC.

Why on earth would you think he can win a Championship?
Having the 113th ranked scoring defense might have something to do with it..

RealSNR 11-13-2012 11:18 AM
The Chiefs have a top 5 LB core in the NFL and are 1-7.

What's the solution?

"Draft a LB!"

Incredible :shake:

DaKCMan AP 11-13-2012 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9115129)
I just dont get this scared mentality alot of Chiefs fans seem to have. We are already at rock bottom, what do we have to lose?
Yep. If he doesn't work out you just draft another one in a few years. With the rookie pay scale now in place it's less risky than it's ever been.

AndChiefs 11-13-2012 11:22 AM
We need to draft Jake Matthews from Texas A&M. Gotta get a LT to replace Albert.

Chief Roundup 11-13-2012 11:22 AM
No I have a feeling that we will get the first pick and then trade down. Not far just like 3 or 4 and get extra picks. We will take either Barkley or Wilson whichever is left. Barkley is the most like Cassel so it would make sense that that is the QB that Pioli would most likely identify with.

vailpass 11-13-2012 11:23 AM
NFW KC doesn't draft a QB in the early rounds if not first overall.
NFW.

Whether that QB signs with KC may be another matter....

mr. tegu 11-13-2012 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 9115092)
I agree. I just don't want to see us reach on Smith or Barkley and waste a few more years giving them a chance only to start over again. My post was not to say we need a LB more. Just that these QB's really suck IMO.
With the new CBA you can take many more risks than in the past. If the guy doesn't look like he will work out then you find another one and it doesn't cripple the franchise financially or in terms of years because you aren't feeling forced to stick with them for five seasons.

In the NFL right now, you can tell rather quickly if a QB is going to work out. 10 years ago guys as raw and not overly talented such as Wilson, Tannehill, Ponder, and Dalton would be getting crushed. But the league is just so QB driven that what used to be career average guys can come in and immediately be average to above average.

DaKCMan AP 11-13-2012 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9115163)
No I have a feeling that we will get the first pick and then trade down. Not far just like 3 or 4 and get extra picks. We will take either Barkley or Wilson whichever is left. Barkley is the most like Cassel so it would make sense that that is the QB that Pioli would most likely identify with.
How is Barkley like Cassel? Because they both attended USC?

Valiant 11-13-2012 11:24 AM
I cannot believe some of our ignorant chiefs fans. This I not the year to draft a qb, d would be better sited.

****you all, we have practically an entire defense of 1st rounders, almost all of the shit ones are high picks. Where is this team because of them? We have one man nuetering an entire team with his play at the most important position and you all clamour, not this year.

This is a franchise settng futility thisyear. The odds of sucking this bad next year nd getting a qb then are nil. Next years qb class does not seem heads and shoulders above thisone. If we are in postion to get geno and pass then we deserve the repetive disappointment we have always gotten.

He may not be luck,but he is a smart, athletic passer that is 10x what we have now.

RealSNR 11-13-2012 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9115163)
No I have a feeling that we will get the first pick and then trade down. Not far just like 3 or 4 and get extra picks. We will take either Barkley or Wilson whichever is left. Barkley is the most like Cassel so it would make sense that that is the QB that Pioli would most likely identify with.
If the top 3 draft order is KC, Jacksonville, Cleveland, I fully expect the top 3 picks to go QB QB QB.

If any of them trade out of their spot, it will be because a team wants to move in and take a QB.

If we trade down to 4 or later, we're ****ing screwed.

Coogs 11-13-2012 11:25 AM
We have only had two games this season where we have been competitive. Ravens and Steelers. (Saints doesn't count. That was just flukish on so many levels IMO). Both games our QB was basiclly taken out of the equation. 7-17 for less than 100 yards vs 34 rushes at the 2:00 minute mark of regulation last night. 50 rushes give or take a couple vs the Ravens.

We need a QB. Rest of the team showed what they can do again last night. Just sad we don't have a QB to go with them.

vailpass 11-13-2012 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9115170)
With the new CBA you can take many more risks than in the past. If the guy doesn't look like he will work out then you find another one and it doesn't cripple the franchise financially or in terms of years because you aren't feeling forced to stick with them for five seasons.

In the NFL right now, you can tell rather quickly if a QB is going to work out. 10 years ago guys as raw and not overly talented such as Wilson, Tannehill, Ponder, and Dalton would be getting crushed. But the league is just so QB driven that what used to be career average guys can come in and immediately be average to above average.
You don't think Tannehill is above average in talent?

loochy 11-13-2012 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 9115174)
I cannot believe some of our ignorant chiefs fans. This I not the year to draft a qb, d would be better sited.

****you all, we have practically an entire defense of 1st rounders, almost all of the shit ones are high picks. Where is this team because of them? We have one man nuetering an entire team with his play at the most important position and you all clamour, not this year.

This is a franchise settng futility thisyear. The odds of sucking this bad next year nd getting a qb then are nil. Next years qb class does not seem heads and shoulders above thisone. If we are in postion to get geno and pass then we deserve the repetive disappointment we have always gotten.

He may not be luck,but he is a smart, athletic passer that is 10x what we have now.
WE deserve what we get? No, WE don't deserve that at all because WE don't choose the draft picks.

mr. tegu 11-13-2012 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9115180)
You don't think Tannehill is above average in talent?
Perhaps I should have said "and/or raw or overly talented." He has above average talent but is certainly still raw.


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