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Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13437504)
Just a week ago I had it in my head that we’d soon be paying $18M per year for Peters, so I don’t mind the money aspect. If they can front load it, then yes I would.

I don’t see KC outbidding teams for him. I think they’re going to be acting crazy this FA but with smaller deals and maybe one big signing.

Mr Hammock 02-25-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13399246)
Obviously things will change post-FA but I'd lean toward DL or LB right now.

Going to be some good stack linebackers available. Might the best approach.

RunKC 02-25-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13437047)
A big issue however is the large amount of needs with the defense. The CB position does need upgraded, but we also need a NT, a WILB, depth or upgrade at ROLB, safety depth or upgrade at S.

Veach is going to have a major challenge filling all of these needs in logical succession.

It’s going to take more than 1 offseason to do this unfortunately. That’s how ****ing bad the defense is.

Dorsey ****ed this franchise hard

RunKC 02-25-2018 09:59 PM

Again for the people in the back: this is a deep DB class. There will be starting caliber corners in early rd 2.

A DL needs to be from FA. The odds of a 2nd rd DL being ready day 1 are not great.

staylor26 02-25-2018 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438262)
Again for the people in the back: this is a deep DB class. There will be starting caliber corners in early rd 2.

A DL needs to be from FA. The odds of a 2nd rd DL being ready day 1 are not great.

I disagree. If somebody like Bryan, Phillips, or Settle falls you have to take them. Either one of those guys can have an impact and taking a different position doesn’t guarantee anything.

I have a good feeling one of those guys makes it to us with this strong DL class.

You can still find DB’s that can have a day 1 impact in the 3rd.

O.city 02-26-2018 08:45 PM

They need to hit the depth during free agency. Get the big players cheap in the draft. Have to hit this draft out the park.

RunKC 02-26-2018 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13438358)
I disagree. If somebody like Bryan, Phillips, or Settle falls you have to take them. Either one of those guys can have an impact and taking a different position doesn’t guarantee anything.

I have a good feeling one of those guys makes it to us with this strong DL class.

You can still find DB’s that can have a day 1 impact in the 3rd.

I’d be shocked if any of those 3 fall past pick 35. I think they are first rd talents. At worst they will be picked first on day 2 IMO.

staylor26 02-26-2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13441109)
I’d be shocked if any of those 3 fall past pick 35. I think they are first rd talents. At worst they will be picked first on day 2 IMO.

I see way too many people with those rated guys all over the place to say neither one will make it to us. There doesn’t seem to be anything close to a real consensus, and if they don’t make it I think somebody like Justin Reid or Leighton Vander Ech will.

Either way I think you take the best defensive player available and you don’t worry about whether their position usually gives you a day 1 impact. If we do that with all of our day 2 picks and we will do some damage.

Mother****erJones 02-26-2018 10:23 PM

Man so far I’m between Tim Settle and Hercules Mata’afa in round 2. Watching some Hercules right now. Very intriguing prospect.

O.city 02-26-2018 10:29 PM

I like Hercules

BryanBusby 02-27-2018 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13441215)
Man so far I’m between Tim Settle and Hercules Mata’afa in round 2. Watching some Hercules right now. Very intriguing prospect.

Settle and it's not a contest IMO.

Mother****erJones 02-27-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13441409)
Settle and it's not a contest IMO.

A guy like Settle could do wonders for this defense. Like a young disruptive Poe

RunKC 02-27-2018 08:05 AM

I think Settle will be this years Vernon Butler. 2nd rd pick until the combine when teams know about him and move him to a late 1st rd value.

Nathan Shepherd might be a more realistic option

staylor26 02-27-2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13441556)
I think Settle will be this years Vernon Butler. 2nd rd pick until the combine when teams know about him and move him to a late 1st rd value.

Nathan Shepherd might be a more realistic option

I’d prefer to wait until the 3rd for guys like Shepherd, Brown, and Thompson.

RunKC 02-27-2018 08:55 AM

Interesting point by Kent Swanson on AP. Chiefs have multiple options in the draft.

Option A-Trade 2nd rd 54th pick (360 pts) & 3rd rd 78th pick (200 pts) for to move into the high 2nd rd for the player they want. The 34th pick is 560 pts.

Option B-trade our 2nd rd 54th pick and our later 3rd rd 86th pick (160 pts) to move up to around the 38th pick.

Option C-stay where you are with 3 picks in the top 100.

Veach says he wants youth and speed. Best way to do that is the draft.


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