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Sassy Squatch 01-25-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13381520)
It's going to happen. Kauffman is a dump.

Nope. Owner doesn't want to spend any money to keep the championship core together, then he can get ****ed.

tk13 01-25-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13381525)
Nope. Owner doesn't want to spend any money to keep the championship core together, then he can get ****ed.

That's a bit harsh. They signed Perez, Gordon, Duffy and Ventura. They were never going to sign them all. I never thought I'd see the day where the Royals put a $150 million payroll out there. They spent a lot of money to give these guys a chance.

That said, I'd have to imagine a new ballpark will be a tough sell either way. Kauffman is pretty well regarded as one of the most beautiful ballparks in baseball.

cosmo20002 01-25-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13381520)
It's going to happen. Kauffman is a dump.

^someone's looking for attention

SAUTO 01-25-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13381520)
It's going to happen. Kauffman is a dump.

This is obvious trolling.

Last time for you in this thread

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13381536)
That's a bit harsh. They signed Perez, Gordon, Duffy and Ventura. They were never going to sign them all. I never thought I'd see the day where the Royals put a $150 million payroll out there. They spent a lot of money to give these guys a chance.

That said, I'd have to imagine a new ballpark will be a tough sell either way. Kauffman is pretty well regarded as one of the most beautiful ballparks in baseball.

This FA market is the most stagnant I think I remember ever seeing. We should be able to sign at least a couple of these guys to at least reasonable deals, if not team friendly.

BigCatDaddy 01-25-2018 12:45 PM

Boras still bitching

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tk13 01-25-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13381566)
This FA market is the most stagnant I think I remember ever seeing. We should be able to sign at least a couple of these guys to at least reasonable deals, if not team friendly.

It's tricky. I've always been for signing Hosmer, but there's no argument that will reduce payroll flexibility down the road. I don't think Hos will be signing any kind of team friendly deal.

I think Cain has been probably the most important player, but you can't be overspending for a guy in his mid 30s. Moose has the swing that should age well but he's had a lot of leg problems and I don't think his quickness at third was even as good as the World Series years. The good news is power just isn't as expensive as it used to be. Look at Trumbo last year and JD Martinez this year.
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tk13 01-25-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13381571)

Given what the Royals, Cubs and Astros have done it's going to be hard to turn that tide. Teams can do it because baseball fans enjoy watching a group of young prospects come up together, and a lot of the big market teams figured out it makes more sense to develop your own guys over throwing out huge contracts to guys in their 30s.

BlackHelicopters 01-25-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13381520)
It's going to happen. Kauffman is a dump.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

cosmo20002 01-25-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13381571)

It's self-serving, but he does have a decent point. Most teams aren't trying to put the best team they reasonably can on the field. Instead, they are "rebuilding" for a better team in a few years that likely won't materialize anyway.

cosmo20002 01-25-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13381647)
Given what the Royals, Cubs and Astros have done it's going to be hard to turn that tide. Teams can do it because baseball fans enjoy watching a group of young prospects come up together, and a lot of the big market teams figured out it makes more sense to develop your own guys over throwing out huge contracts to guys in their 30s.

I'd say they enjoy winning. It's satisfying when a group comes up together and wins, but if they don't, there's not much fun in that.

BigCatDaddy 01-25-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 13381659)
It's self-serving, but he does have a decent point. Most teams aren't trying to put the best team they reasonably can on the field. Instead, they are "rebuilding" for a better team in a few years that likely won't materialize anyway.

They old trade for someone elses mediocre QB and be steady or to draft and develop a franchise QB and be great argument.

ChiTown 01-25-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13381559)
This is obvious trolling.

Last time for you in this thread

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tk13 01-25-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 13381662)
I'd say they enjoy winning. It's satisfying when a group comes up together and wins, but if they don't, there's not much fun in that.

Well that's obvious. But it's definitely different in baseball because there is such a large minor league system and fans follow it more closely than other leagues. In football and basketball you can watch the NCAA but you don't know which players will end up on your favorite team. In baseball we know who guys like Mondesi are and they are tied to KC.

The influence of advanced statistics and analytics has really changed this too. 15 years ago a lot of fans would have just wanted the Royals to spend money, period. Today there is a fairly large section of diehard fans who would prefer this team not sign any of their free agents, save money, and start working towards getting high draft picks to rebuild. No way that happens 15 years ago.

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13381559)
This is obvious trolling.

Last time for you in this thread

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