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RealSNR 04-24-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9621889)
Mayock has Fisher mocked to us at #1.

He also said he would like the Chiefs to keep Albert and " double down".

Of course he would.

He's had a sexual fantasy about Branden Albert playing something else besides LT for years. It's pretty creepy.

Fritz88 04-24-2013 06:29 PM

Mayock has a point.

It's going to be Fisher simply because he fits Ried's system.

Welcome to KC Fisher.

TRR 04-24-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9622131)
Mayock has a point.

It's going to be Fisher simply because he fits Ried's system.

Welcome to KC Fisher.

Very scary. An OT and out of Central Michigan nonetheless. Rough.
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BossChief 04-24-2013 06:33 PM

About 10 minutes into the Mayock mock...NFLN said "Miami is still trying to trade for Albert with the 42nd pick...the sticking point appears to be Kansas City seeking additional compensation for the left tackle"

DTLB58 04-24-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9622165)
Very scary. An OT and out of Central Michigan nonetheless. Rough.
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I'm having visions of Trezelle Jenkins. :deevee:

Gravedigger 04-24-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9622178)
About 10 minutes into the Mayock mock...NFLN said "Miami is still trying to trade for Albert with the 42nd pick...the sticking point appears to be Kansas City seeking additional compensation for the left tackle"

Just let him go, for the higher of the two second round picks just give him up and start focusing on trading around elsewhere.

DTLB58 04-24-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9622178)
About 10 minutes into the Mayock mock...NFLN said "Miami is still trying to trade for Albert with the 42nd pick...the sticking point appears to be Kansas City seeking additional compensation for the left tackle"

Dorsey/Reid are probably trying to get a 3rd also but the dolphins are trying to give us Davone Bess.


@ArmandoSalguero: Dolphins WR Davone Bess is apparently on the outs and on the trade block. The blog post: http://t.co/c76Ja1gjUJ

RunKC 04-24-2013 06:38 PM

Fisher and Albert to Dolphins for their 2nd.

Get ready.

Saccopoo 04-24-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9622239)
Dorsey/Reid are probably trying to get a 3rd also but the dolphins are trying to give us Davone Bess.


@ArmandoSalguero: Dolphins WR Davone Bess is apparently on the outs and on the trade block. The blog post: http://t.co/c76Ja1gjUJ

Bleh.

I'll take that third and their high second.

That could potentially give us Kevin Minter and Barrett Jones.

penbrook 04-24-2013 06:40 PM

Would you trade Albert for the Dolphins #54 and Davone Bess.

Mother****erJones 04-24-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9622178)
About 10 minutes into the Mayock mock...NFLN said "Miami is still trying to trade for Albert with the 42nd pick...the sticking point appears to be Kansas City seeking additional compensation for the left tackle"

Uh huh, Dorsey wants to rape

Brock 04-24-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9622245)
Fisher and Albert to Dolphins for their 2nd.

Get ready.

Wut

Tribal Warfare 04-24-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9622268)
Uh huh, Dorsey wants to rape

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Hand_86c0b6_819097.jpg

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:45 PM

Central Michigan just produced Joe Staley and he's a top 5 LT in this league. So Pioli can shut his Belichick penis entrance.

penbrook 04-24-2013 06:45 PM

According to USA Today Dorsey is considering 2 players on offense and 2 players on defense that are in there final four.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:46 PM

There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9622312)
According to USA Today Dorsey is considering 2 players on offense and 2 players on defense that are in there final four.

Yep saw that too.

Fisher, Joeckel, Jordan and Ansah would be my guess.

Bewbies 04-24-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622309)
Central Michigan just produced Joe Staley and he's a top 5 LT in this league. So ***** can shut his Belichick penis entrance.

LMAO

Can we change the lexicon, this is perfect.

Out = Pioli / In = Belichick's penis entrance

RunKC 04-24-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

Please dear God let it be #2. That would be ****ing awesome.

penbrook 04-24-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

Id take option 2.

ILChief 04-24-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

Either of those would be nice

Fritz88 04-24-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9622178)
About 10 minutes into the Mayock mock...NFLN said "Miami is still trying to trade for Albert with the 42nd pick...the sticking point appears to be Kansas City seeking additional compensation for the left tackle"

I hope to God that's the case, at least it gives me some hope that the Alex Smith rape is the exception and not the rule.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:48 PM

I htink they are trying to get the Lions to bite and move up. Lions apparently covet Ansah.

penbrook 04-24-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622331)
Yep saw that too.

Fisher, Joeckel, Jordan and Ansah would be my guess.

I think Its Floyd and not Ansah IMO.

ILChief 04-24-2013 06:49 PM

Option 2 would be good since we still have a third rd compensatory pick

O.city 04-24-2013 06:49 PM

If they trade Albert, they still want to move down?

Fritz88 04-24-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...ik-d4cwbtb.png

oldandslow 04-24-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622352)
I htink they are trying to get the Lions to bite and move up. Lions apparently covet Ansah.

Perfect...

Mizzou_8541 04-24-2013 06:50 PM

I'm just venting; I know it's been discussed ad nauseum, but its so ****ing stupid to trade a LT and draft a LT 1:1. I'm so freaking pissed...what am I missing here?

Sassy Squatch 04-24-2013 06:50 PM

Anaconda squeeze!!!

Hammock Parties 04-24-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

**** this shit. Deal them #1 for a basket of rape.

penbrook 04-24-2013 06:52 PM

So TBG any word on who will be the pick.

Yesterday was Joeckel and today was Fisher according to several reports.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:52 PM

I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

oldandslow 04-24-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

Exactly.

Bewbies 04-24-2013 06:53 PM

A 3rd next year is an extra pick over option 2. That would essentially make the trade Albert for Smith. Don't know that I like it, but QB is so much more important we got a good deal.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9622395)
So TBG any word on who will be the pick.

Yesterday was Joeckel and today was Fisher.

I've thought it was going to be Fisher just strictly based on Reid's past prototype.

However, I have no idea here. I think Dorsey has done a nice job in creating some outside demand for this pick. I don't know who's interested or what is being offered, but I didn't think the Chiefs had a single option out of 1.

New World Order 04-24-2013 06:53 PM

Alright pre-draft plan:


1st pick- Geno Smith

3rd pick- Sex.

Mother****erJones 04-24-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

Ya maybe they're trying to get DET to bite. Mayock said no one knows what CLE will do. Maybe DET gets nervous about them leapfrogging for Ansah. Maybe we can get DET to pull a Matt Millen.

O.city 04-24-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

It's gonna be bitching until the games start. It's just that the situation is so similar to what just happened 4 years ago, thats making people bitch.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:55 PM

The only thing I'm completely certain of is that Geno Smith will not be a Chief.

O.city 04-24-2013 06:55 PM

If we trade Albert though, are we still looking to trade down? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9622430)
If we trade Albert though, are we still looking to trade down? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I think they would entertain the possibility if an offer came up that was spectacular.

New World Order 04-24-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622429)
The only thing I'm completely certain of is that Geno Smith will be a Chief.



Couldn't agree more Bad Guy.

The Franchise 04-24-2013 06:56 PM

Trade Albert for a 2nd. Trade down with Lions.

O.city 04-24-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622445)
I think they would entertain the possibility if an offer came up that was spectacular.

Then what will they do at LT? The offer would have to be spectacular.

Mother****erJones 04-24-2013 06:58 PM

The ideal situation is ****ing the dolphins. Taking 12, 42, 54 for Joeckel.

-King- 04-24-2013 06:58 PM

I don't see why it would be so hard to trade them the 1.1 pick instead of Albert.

RunKC 04-24-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622352)
I htink they are trying to get the Lions to bite and move up. Lions apparently covet Ansah.

Is this a good idea?

I'm scared that we trade Albert and all 3 LT's are off the board by the time we pick at 5.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9622459)
Then what will they do at LT? The offer would have to be spectacular.

I htink this regime sees some promise in Donald Stephenson. If they got a ridiculous offer, they could always explore McKinnie for a year and stock up.

There's maybe a 5% chance of them trading down, but I think Dorsey explores everything.

Fritz88 04-24-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

Gives some a sense of purpose?

O.city 04-24-2013 06:59 PM

If they will give us both 2nd's, just sit tight and take Fisher.

Titty Meat 04-24-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC and Dorsey as the GM, why not just see how things come together and if the result sucks then you can complain your face off.

Because they traded to quality picks for a game manager and are wasting the 1st overall pick on a position they already have filled.

oldandslow 04-24-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9622463)
The ideal situation is ****ing the dolphins. Taking 12, 42, 54 for Joeckel.

Huh...

Albert for 42 and 54 and draft Joeckel/Fischer is a better deal.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9622464)
I don't see why it would be so hard to trade them the 1.1 pick instead of Albert.

Because they have no desire to pay Albert what he wants - especially now that the Dolphins have essentially met that price.

SAUTO 04-24-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622429)
The only thing I'm completely certain of is that Geno Smith will not be a Chief.

You think?

Or know
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Mother****erJones 04-24-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622496)
Because they have no desire to pay Albert what he wants - especially now that the Dolphins have essentially met that price.

Hey, I'm a wisconsin fan, does Andy have any interest in Montee Ball in the 3rd round behind Charles? With our comp pick

O.city 04-24-2013 07:01 PM

They obviously don't like Albert and like the draftee better. They don't want to pay him what he wants. Fine.

But like DJ said the other night, it better work, or they'll be out of here. If this blows up in their face, it could get uglier in KC.

Mother****erJones 04-24-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 9622494)
Huh...

Albert for 42 and 54 and draft Joeckel/Fischer is a better deal.

Well we're not getting both 2s. Ofcourse that'd be great

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9622487)
Because they traded to quality picks for a game manager and are wasting the 1st overall pick on a position they already have filled.

Yep. It's truly that simple.

The draft hasn't even happened yet. You don't know what happens in round 2, who trades up down, nothing of that.

I'm glad some of you were comfortable paying Albert. I'm also glad Dorsey isn't.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 9622494)
Huh...

Albert for 42 and 54 and draft Joeckel/Fischer is a better deal.

Don't get stockholm syndrome.

Pissing away 1.1 on an OT is still ****ing stupid, no matter the compensation for Albert.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9622514)
They obviously don't like Albert and like the draftee better. They don't want to pay him what he wants. Fine.

But like DJ said the other night, it better work, or they'll be out of here. If this blows up in their face, it could get uglier in KC.

Absolutely it better work.

But I don't think it could ever get uglier than it was last year.

Titty Meat 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9622514)
They obviously don't like Albert and like the draftee better. They don't want to pay him what he wants. Fine.

But like DJ said the other night, it better work, or they'll be out of here. If this blows up in their face, it could get uglier in KC.

Have any tackles drafted high worked as far as the player doing good and the team winng?

Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, Joe Thomas, Jason Smith all come to mind.

oldandslow 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9622515)
Well we're not getting both 2s. Ofcourse that'd be great

I should have stated Albert plus a 3 will get Miami's 2's. I make that deal.

philfree 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9622342)
Please dear God let it be #2. That would be ****ing awesome.

Why can't we get #42 and #77 for Albert instead of giving up the #63. We could have #42, #63, #77, #96 and #99.

Sassy Squatch 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622530)
Absolutely it better work.

But I don't think it could ever get uglier than it was last year.

Don't be so sure about that.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Tackle is just not a position worth taking this early in today's game. It's really that simple.

keg in kc 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622397)
I get the venting, bitching, but god damn what is the harm in letting this play out?

If you wanted Reid as the HC

I didn't. Ever.

oldandslow 04-24-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9622538)
Have any tackles drafted high worked as far as the player doing good and the team winng?

Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, Joe Thomas, Jason Smith all come to mind.

Orlando Pace

Pasta Little Brioni 04-24-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9622538)
Have any tackles drafted high worked as far as the player doing good and the team winng?

Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, Joe Thomas, Jason Smith all come to mind.

......or THIS

O.city 04-24-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622530)
Absolutely it better work.

But I don't think it could ever get uglier than it was last year.

The way people are bitching and moaning, isn't just a CP thing. It's not as loud in the public as it is on here, but Chiefs fans are just apathetic at this point. They don't care. It might not get as ugly W/L wise, but as far as the fanbase, it's pretty bad at this point.

Then they did the whole Alex Smith thing, which to most casual fans seems like more of the same. People dont' seem to be buying into all the articles and talk like they did with Pioli, they're all just hesitant.

IMO, thats why their going the way they're going, trying to turn around so fast and quick.

RunKC 04-24-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9622538)
Have any tackles drafted high worked as far as the player doing good and the team winng?

Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, Joe Thomas, Jason Smith all come to mind.

Russell Okung, Ryan Clady, Trent Williams.

The Bad Guy 04-24-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9622550)
I didn't. Ever.

Who did you want?

O.city 04-24-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9622574)
Russell Okung, Ryan Clady, Trent Williams.

It's funny you bring those 3 up.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-24-2013 07:06 PM

They can all thank recently drafted/HOF QB's for their team's success.

Just Passin' By 04-24-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9622546)
Tackle is just not a position worth taking this early in today's game. It's really that simple.

It's really not that simple, at all.

Direckshun 04-24-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9622506)
Hey, I'm a wisconsin fan, does Andy have any interest in Montee Ball in the 3rd round behind Charles? With our comp pick

He won't last that long. Ball's gone in the 2nd.

oldandslow 04-24-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9622581)
They can all thank recently drafted/HOF QB's for their team's success.

Russell Wilson in the HOF - Wow, you put them in young.

O.city 04-24-2013 07:10 PM

Yeah, I think you misunderstood PGM there.

DJ's left nut 04-24-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9622325)
There was 2 scenarios just presented to me about what Dorsey wants:

1) The 42 and a conditional 3rd next year
2) The 42 and 54 for Albert and the Chiefs 3rd rounder.

He's trying to squeeze them now that he knows the contract has been agreed to. The Dolphins have pinned themselves in a corner.

Why does everyone prefer option 2?

You realize that the Chiefs 3rd rounder is at 63, right? I'd rather have the 3rd round pick in 2014 than move up a whole 9 spots.

I guess it would depend in large part on what's available there, but it seems like the draft flattens out again around 40; that being the case, I don't think the guy available to us at 54 is going to be any better than the guy at 63. I'd rather have the extra lottery ticket in 2014 if for no other reason than to trade round next year.

Just Passin' By 04-24-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9622538)
Have any tackles drafted high worked as far as the player doing good and the team winng?

Jake Long, Eugene Monroe, Joe Thomas, Jason Smith all come to mind.

Baltimore was going nowhere last year, until they fired the OC and shook up the O-line. The bullshit around here about line players has gone way over the top. QB is the single most important position on the team. That doesn't mean the other positions don't count.


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