Can you please go troll another thread? I get that you're proud of your team, and that's cool, but please do it somewhere else.

What the hell are those power rankings? LMAO

Probably CLone report.com

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KU basketball holds players-only team meeting: http://ljw.bz/XeVXyC #kubball

Loucious held one after our Tech loss.. Teams been playing a lot better since.

Why don't you post that in the ISU thread...?

Who?

Can't even spell your boy's name right.

You're such a great fan!

Awesome.

What is the point of a player's meeting? What needs to be said? Everyone with a brain knows the obvious truth: PG (both EJ and Tharpe) are murdering the team right now with their horrible play. They have more TO than A in league now. They are awful shooters (18% last two games, both winnable).



The rest of the team played plenty fine to be 9-0 in league. What they oughtta be doing right now is giving those two worthless fcks a CODE RED.

Frankamp scored 43 tonight. Ballin

If he can score 12 ppg in college I'll be happy.

He's the next Jimmer, bro. He'll be dropping 30's all over the place.

I'll believe it when I see it.

What can it hurt? Who could be better at holding any player accountable than his teammates? They're struggling and they're unhappy about it and trying something that might be out of the ordinary to fix things. Didn't you see Remember The Titans? Man we ain't won NOTHIN ya'll!

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Maybe it went something like this and they bursted into song.

Withey is the big white boy who starts it up and McLemore sings out "like eagles ya'll, like eeeaaaagles yaaaa'll."

I'm ready to play!

Or..........


It just means that what coach was telling them hasn't sunken in just yet. I'm hoping that's the case. We all saw how good this team can be in December. Hopefully, Self can get them back to playing that way. It all starts with EJ. He's got to be the senior leader.

LMAO love Durant but that little white kid will be super scintillating sensational!

Dumb.

Here are just a few things they could have talked about.

- McLemore be more aggressive/assertive and take more shots
- Same for Releford
- Play harder and smarter on defense
- Dribble penetration (yes, this is mostly EJ and NT's job)
- Rebound better. Rebounding is a lot of effort and boxing out, 2 things that haven't been very good lately

Horrid PG play and a primary scoring option down low is what's hurting this team.

Withey is not a primary scoring option down low. If he can get to the line, great. But he lacks moves and esp the muscle to really be effective on the block a lot of times. In Self's hi-lo offense, you need a guy that's a dominant scorer around the hoop. Withey isn't that. He's on the floor to block shots, because really he's not an effective rebounder as he should be IMO with his size. He gets pushed around a lot.

Manning leaving hurt this team IMO.

Dumb. Deny all you want that PG has been the only reason we've lost. You're grasping at straws trying to deflect criticism away from it's clear and obvious source.



-"McLemore be more aggressive and take more shots." Dumb. He took 17 vs Okie and 16 Wed night.
-"Play Harder & Smarter on defense." Dumb. We allowed 43% shooting to Okie State and only 39% shooting and 62 points on Wed night.
-"Rebound better". Dumb. We out-rebounded Okie, and then TCU 44-34.

So wait, what?

#1 Indiana loses.
#2 Florida loses.
#3 Michigan is down one at half to Wisconsin.
#4 Duke is playing at BC :rollseyes:

If Michigan loses and presuming Puke lives on, they're going to be #1. While Miami is #8 and if they win at UNC, will be 10-0 in the ACC.

This year is ****ed the **** up. They just need to nuke everything and start over on the rankings.

Ok....so....now that we got the 3 game losing streak out of the way, let's go back to winning.

Maybe the quick turnaround and playing on Monday will be good as it won't give the players that much time to dwell on it.

And gotta protect home court and steal one on the road to have a share of the title...Baylor is our best shot at a road win.

Miami should be #1, IMO. They're playing the best basketball. Indiana is also going to lose again tomorrow at OSU, I suspect.

The four #1 seeds on Monday could be Duke, Arizona, Gonzaga, and Miami.

Elijah 3-11 (2-6) and 2-4 from the FT in a tight loss. My gawd this guy is such a POS. Team killer.

Elijah has been stinking it up. Holy shit. He needs to find his shoes and put them back on.

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I miss him. :-( He should have stayed for 4 more years and helped coach Evan. :-)

KU schedule:
vs. KSU W
vs. UT W
at OSU L
vs. TCU W
at ISU L
vs WVU W
vs TTU W
at BU W

Ideally, that's what you'd want out of this schedule for this team. Hold serve at home and pick up one on the road and you're at 13 wins.

OSU (7-3) schedule:
at TCU W
vs. OU W
vs. KU W
at WVU W
at TCU W
vs. UT W
at ISU L
vs. KSU W

OSU has the easiest schedule remaining by far of any B12 contender. If they beat KU, you've got to give them at least 13 wins. Perhaps even 14, but beating ISU on the road is tough.

KSU (8-2, after they finish beating ISU here) schedule:
at KU L
vs. BU W
vs. WVU W
at UT W
vs. TTU W
at BU L
vs. TCU W
at OSU L

If KSU is able to beat KU on Monday, they have a pretty good shot at winning the conference. If they can't, they probably finish with 13 wins as well (although there's way more dangerous games on this schedule than OSU's).

Three way B12 champions? I'd honestly take that considering this team's play since conference season started.

Guys!

What about the Clones?

I was told they would compete and win it all!

I wish you guys could have beaten K-State today. :(

I've been thinking about this youtube alot recently...

I think we want ski to beat Isuzu..."if" we beat state on Monday, the Isuzu loss will help when we go to aims as I don't expect to leave there with a win. If ISU won to tonight, I think you would have to start to look at them as favorites to win the conference.

wtf is this?

LMAO

Something resembling English.

I did tell the ISU troll they wouldn't win in Manhattan. Doubt he'll be trolling here after this one now.

Personally, I hope KU wins at Mazda and Hyundai this year.

It's actually probably better for KU's chances of winning the B12 that they didn't. We have a home game remaining against KSU (and they have a tough schedule going forward), we don't against ISU (and they have a slightly easier one).

Rustshack isn't a troll, he's just a homer and he's not very smart. He has about as much objectivity as a 3-year old who thinks his daddy is Superman.

Homer for sure, but there was some trolling going on there after the TCU loss.

Monday should be electric.

Hope the team shows up.

Now that I think about today's KU loss, I think they were actually the better team today (which I couldn't have said for the OSU or clearly the TCU loss). If they make their FTs, they win the game. OU also had to make some threes with low percentage guys (like M'Baye and Hornbeak) to even keep that lead in the end. They're still not trending in the right direction lately, but a loss like this shouldn't be blown out of proportion in itself. This was the kind of game I'd have pegged as a possible loss a month ago when they were actually going well.

The game vs. KSU becomes a must win now, though.

@RockChalkBlog: #kubball RT @JayhawkTalk: Self: "We need our FANS on Monday. We've had a great year and a crappy week."


This ends on Monday. I wish I wasn't 1500 miles away I'd be there. This is our conference. ROCK CHALK!!!

If KU can't get up for KSU on Big Monday with conference title implications on the line -- then I will worry.

And probably commit suicide.

Nothing in the box score proves your thesis. Now if we take out EJ then you're correct. As I keep pointin out.

It's not a problem with effort, it's a problem with one player. When said player shoots under 11 times, we are 18-0. When he shoots more, 1-4. I cannot make the point any more clearly.

Except for the shooting 46% on the road against a good defensive team (vs. their 45%) which isn't easy to do and going 11 for 20 on free throws (including 5 misses between two very good foul shooters in TR and EJ).

Taking out EJ isn't a solution unless there is an adequate replacement out there (and there isn't).

They shot the same, and better from deep and the line. So I'm not following you at all. You can take EJ out of shooting, it's quite easy. He shoots, he's benched. I bet he learns quickly.

They shot better than the team they played in a tough road environment (this suggests they were the better team). They also got to the line more than OU in a tough road environment (this suggest they were the better team). What cost them greatly was going 11 for 20 on FTs (which isn't expected for that group) and having low percentage shooters hit some big shots down the stretch (which can't be controlled). I'm not quite understanding what's difficult to follow here.


So we can replace him with who? Tharpe is an even worse shooter and plays even more out of control when given any responsibility. Unless you have somebody else in mind?

The losses against OSU and TCU were almost entirely due to a lack of effort (and yes, EJ was a central part of that deficiency).

I still feel pretty confident in our chances on monday. Coming back home should do us some good.

We will be favored and we almost never lose there, but this KSU team is damn goo just as I said they'd be when the season began. They pound the offensive glass and we have trouble with that. They are hot and already beat Florida and won tight roadies at WVu and OU. Almost pulled out ISU.


I'm not confident at all. ESP if the shit head isn't reigned in by Self ASAP.

I just feel like this whole collapse has happened after osu beat us at home. Then 2 road games that we lose.

Think we could come out well on monday.

You just watched a game we led about 20 seconds, and you deduced that we were actually better. You can't be serious.

Eh...that was a failed attempt to write a post on my phone...lol..."isuzu". I love you autocorrect.

I am. I already explained my reasoning repeatedly as to why progress was made today. Unless you've got something else to bring to the table here other than douchiness and EJ hate (you still haven't provided a decent replacement yet for him, which is kind of important if he is to be benched), I'm not sure what you're whining about in this thread.

I still think we benefit more from KSU beating ISU than the other way around.

I like our chances on Monday against KSU more than I do in Ames...

I think we pretty much agreed. It was probably better for KU's chances of winning the B12 that KSU won there considering the home game they have left against them.

We're now "making progress". Hilarious. We just lost to an unranked team we've pummeled 10 straight. A game we were favored in Vegas by 4. We trailed practically the whole time. That's "progress"?


Hilarious how badly we've fallen.

I blame Branden Albert. It all started with him. That fat bitch attended his first KU game against OkieSt. He brought the Chiefs suckage and bad mojo to the only successful team and program in the Midwest. Bitch ass.

If today's game was on a neutral court, KU wins it. They were the better team overall and would have gotten the W had the FTs gone down. And yes, even playing a good team close on the road (and OU is a good tournament team) is obvious progress considering they just lost to one of the worst teams in the NCAA on Wednesday while giving no effort at all. After a loss like that, expectations have to be adjusted.

No, it's hilarious how pathetic this fanbase gets after a few losses. It's conceited, entitled, Yankee fan type bullshit.

I blew off the Okie loss, didn't care about it at all. But the last two games have been unacceptable. These two schools can't even draw people to basketball games. OU had lost 4/6 going into today and they led the whole game. The fanbase at Kansas has a right to be irritated because we care about the sport, support the team with high ticket prices, and pack the stadium. We deserve to win. Schools that don't care don't deserve to win. Just my .02

We're on the worst losing streak of the Self era. We'll keep losing until we aren't. Will it be Monday night? One can only hope. Until then, roll with it.

This is the part of this losing streak that pisses me off the most. What a bunch of entitled "What have you done for me lately" fair weather pussies.

Well... yeah.

huh...?

Today's kind of loss happens from time to time to even the best of teams in the NCAA and it isn't the end of the world. At least they actually fought and gave a shit today, which has been one of this team's major problems throughout the season.

The TCU loss was a product of KU not even showing up to play basketball that night. There's no excuse for that, but it's not reflective at all of how good they can be as a team. I'm not going to put more meaning into that than it deserves.

So do KU fans rush the court if they pull off the upset Monday?

I guess the point I was trying to make is (and keep in mind, I'm about 4 sheets into the wind) that we are who we are. The KU name is good for a few points a game, but it's not real. If we're a serious, kick yer ass, taker yer name, your mom screams "KANSAS" when she cums basketball team, we have to earn it. Right now we're a "That's all you got?" short-dick basketball team.

Screw everybody else. Quit playing nice. Treat the opponents the wat the Morris twins and TRob did and make the other team your bitch. Sack the **** up and play with some balls.

There's a place for nice guys.

No. You're not worthy. Never have been. Never will be.

KSU losing at home once again to KU looms even larger now that they have a real chance at winning the conference. LMAO

Pretty much how I view it, as I mentioned earlier.

What are the early projections for the top 4 of the Big12 to be seeded?

Who are the top 4 of the B12? I see a clear top 6, but not a clear top 4.

I'd say KU probably projects as a 2/3 right now with all of their good RPI wins. The other 5 are probably somewhere between 4-10.

Would be interesting to see how KU, KSU, OSU, and ISU played each other on a neutral court. Just depends on the night, but they can all beat each other.

How many could make the tournament?

6 will make the tournament. I don't see any reason to believe otherwise right now.

I believe earlier you stated that Duke has lost consecutive game on 10 different occasions in the last 7 year or something....where did you find that?