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It seems like thye have done a sly nod to book readers in each episode this season.
In the 1st it was Cersei saying how she had heard Tyrion's nose was cut off, but it wasn't as bad as all that. In the second, it was Jaime telling Brienne that Catelyn may tell her to throw herself on her sword. In the third it was Tyrion's reference to the Mereenese Knot which was GRRM's excuse for taking soooo long to write AFFC and ADWD in that he wrote and re-wrote and re-wrote the Mereen parts trying to get the timing of the people arriving and the structure of events correct, and to figure out how to get Dany out of there. |
I think the guy claiming to rescue him is Ramsay because Asha's men don't like Theon and would never address her as "your sister" due to respect to her and disrespect or lack of loyalty to him. He would have said Commander Asha sent me. It's Ramsay all the way.
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Yeah, I agree, that is Ramsay, which is why the dying guy calls him a "bastard"
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I thought Ramsay Snow was suppose to be this ugly ****ing shithead jerk clown dude and not that this normal looking dude
unless they are trying some sadistic Patrick Bateman look here, Ramsey is a bad bad dude and that guy on the show is just Johnny Normal.
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Ramsay is evil and sick to his core, but I'm not sure he's anything special in size or looks. Neither is his dad, Roose.
The stuff you are talking about with Reek is all in the books, not on the show. Reek was Ramsay's servant who was dirty and stinky. In the books, Ramsay and Reek rape and kill a girl in the woods but get busted and caught, so Ramsay pretends to be Reek, and Reek pretends to be Ramsay, and is killed. Ramsay (disguised as Reek) is arrested and taken to be held in Winterfell in the dungeons pending return of Robb to decide his fate. Theon and his men take Winterfell, and they release the prisoners from the dungeons, so Reek (Ramsay in disguise) warms up to Theon and "helps" him when Bran and Rickon escape. It was Ramsay's idea to trick everyone by killing the miller boys and making it seem like they killed Bran and Rickon. He also claims he can raise some men to help Theon hold the castle, so Theon lets him go. When Sir Rodrick and his men come to get back Winterfell and surround it, Ramsay and his men show up like they are going to join up with Sir Rodrick and the other North men, but instead they kill Sir Rodrick and slaughter the other northmen. Theon, thinking they are helping him opens the gates. Ramsay and his men come in and kill everybody and kidnap Theon (though you don't know what happened to Theon until the 5th book as he is not in book 3 or 4 at all and is presumed dead). Anyway, that is all way too complicated for the show, so they dumbed that all down and did not try to introduce Ramsay that way. End result is the same, Ramsay burns winterfell and kidnaps Theon so he can torture him. By torturing him, Ramsay turns Theon into the new Reek. So in book 5, Theon is Reek and is pretty demented and damaged as a result of the torture. |
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Well that's just my guess. It seems in line with the books where Theon remembers escaping and Ramsay hunting him. The writers have all kinds of leeway in that story line since Theon wasn't even in books 3 or 4. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it.
I enjoyed the intro of the Blackfish though, with his toss of the bow back to Edmure and walking away before his shot hits the boat. If they arent giving us Vargo Hoat or Strong Belwas, at least we get a cool Blackfish. |
why does Ramsay hate Theon so much?
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He hates everyone. I mean he has a kennel full of dogs that are each named after a girl he tortured, raped, let escape, then hunted and killed. But I think he gets off on owning Theon because Theon is a prince. Power trip.
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i hope they show that girl hunting thing on the show lol
i just dont understand Ramsay's place in the show, hes just like some bad dude, but hes like a bad dude loner, hes just going to toture and kill, hes a bastard, he has no real allegiances, hes just there, hes not fighting for a lannister or stark, kind of just hanging out being a prick and is just pissing around until someone comes and steps to him |
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I posted this in the other thread so I thought I should come in here a share...
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Although I am concerned they are almost making it so that they don't have to by having her care so much about Sansa. She didn't give a crap about her. That's disturbing. |
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