We are 6-2 in our last 8...too.

Still trying to figure out how you guys are "HOT" right now...

No, the key words were losing to Texas Tech by 5 points. If there is ever team/fanbase in the country that shouldn't be talking shit about KU losing to TCU, it's the one whose team just lost to a Tech team just as bad two weeks ago.

Bubu Palo, the backup PG scrub that holds all that mediocrity together over there at ISU.

0-2 in your last 2. You're the opposite of hot.

LOL

So now we judge the temperature of a team off of one week?

this is like a reerun fight...

KU fans can STFU after last night... 13 points in one half? Are you kidding me?

It will take years to live down that night of historic ass sucking by Self and his featherless Jayhawks...

K



Anyway...

Talk about melodramatic. Also, is Reerun the reerun really calling others reeruns? LMAO

Yes.

Pretty easy to avoid the thread if you don't like what is being discussed...

Reerun done go full reerun. :drool:

You're about a month early on both counts.

Yet arguing with an ISU fan about sucking isnt being dramatic?

The Jayhawks suck when Elijah takes more than 11 shots per game, I read.

you guys rubbed off on the rest of us...

KenPom projects the year-ending B12 standings as follows based on the remaining schedules:
KU 14-4
OSU 13-5
KSU 12-6
BU 11-7
ISU 11-7
OU 11-7
WVU 7-11
UT 6-12
TTU 3-15
TCU 2-16

It's going to be ISU and OSU to decide it all, eh?

We don't play Iowa St and when we did typically handled them.

Just you wait...ISU is getting Hot. They have a 3 game winning streak...

Arguing? I'm enjoying the hilarious troll attempt.

If there's one thing sports fans focus on years after the fact, it's college basketball games played in early February that were televised on ESPNU.

You mean two game winning streak. A streak which will probably end in Manhattan on Saturday because most teams that aren't KU that go into Manhattan lose there.

Pretty much... it's amusing.

OUR TIME

I have always hated KU and everything it stands for, but at the same time, I have always had Respect for their Basketball Program and Coach Self, but with that said, I have to agree with what Reerun is saying...It will be a long time before you live last night game down.

Very true, no one will ever remember KU scoring 13 points in one half of basketball...


Just like no one remembers Duke working that 19 point halftime score either....

Please elaborate.

We play again on Saturday...

Well thats it folks! We've seen the projections, lets cancel the remainder of the games. I'm sure KU was projected to lose last night too right?

We swept them last year, I'm not too worried.

See, agreeing with anything Reerun says is generally a bad way to go. If KU ends up winning the B12 in 4 weeks (which is still the likeliest of any outcome), nobody is going to care at all.

Oh...since we are talking about last year now, how did you guys do?

We won the B12 regular season title...again. And made it to the NC game.

Where did I say they wouldnt win the big 12 or any other games?

I'll take probabilities over baseless false hope any time. One usually comes to fruition, the other doesn't.

You said KU fans wouldn't live that game down which is a crock of shit. How that game is remembered depends entirely on how the rest of the season goes.

So..you play again on Saturday and if you win..you win...But last nights game was so Atrocius(sp), I couldn't even laugh...It was so sad and Pathetic.

Everybody will remember that game...Not just because they lost, but how Pathetic they played...2 points by the 8 minute mark, 13 points by half...That's pretty sad and pathetic.

Oh you got eliminated by the same team that eliminated ISU? Oh you lost in Ames last year? Cool story bro.

KU went 16-2 in conference last year. Is that relevant to this year too? LMAO

:shake:

LOL Okay my favorite Blue Blood basketball team scored 13 points in one half... JFC DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUS????

13 points...

IIRC, it was 11 or 12 mins into the game before they scored a single point...

JFC any Jr High girls team can score 13 points in one half....

UNI....Bucknell....Bradley...those games that end your season take some time to get over.

A terrible regular season loss is a minor blip on the radar.

I am sure Syracuse fans are over the Le Moyne lost...

Buehler_445 and I were laughing our asses off via Text last night at this game...

Someone resorted to saying only KU wins at KSU, I responded with we won there last time we played there. I apologize for using the past as an example to a statement where you guys brought up the past.

Its not the loss, its the historic fashion that they lost in...

It probably happens more often than you think... of course, not to teams like Kansas and Duke nearly as much, but it's not completely unheard of.... and who really cares if people remember it? I turned it off before halftime so I wouldn't have to waste another hour. If rival fans want something to prod about, there's much more than a shitty game in February... hell, they're still on the 'B' team thing.

I think one person has mentioned it to me all day, after seeing a few posts about it on FB... nothing compared to exiting the tourney in the first weekend.

I watched the whole freaking game... Holding out hope til the bitter end...

:harumph::harumph:

So you lost a game and won a game.

That's what I got from that post...

I don't know why I bother with somebody who so clearly lacks reasoning ability. But if KU wins the B12 or even in the NC, you're really going to be whining about this game? Complaining about how people won't be able to live it down? Bullshit. You'll be relishing in the narrative that this shitty game taught them a lesson and got them to play together from that point forward. How such losses are seen depends entirely on what they do from here.

THIS!!!^^^^

It will also go down in the records/stats as one of the worst loss's in KU history. Like I said..It's not the loss...It's the way it was lost.

I guess I just view it differently than others...people can give me crap about it, but in the end it was one game.


"Hey you guys sucked it up again TCU...the worst team in the B12"

Me: "yeah...that sucked"


....that is about the extent of that conversation. I don't get the, "It will be a long time before you can live that one down" or whatever.

Yeah I don't get it...

Most winningest program in the last decade. "Yeah, well you lost something fierce to TCU."

Yes...we did, so....?

"So you lost!"

The OKC game was supposed to "teach them a lesson".

All this game did was confirm that KU has drastically regressed and that we shouldn't expect anything from them this year.

Meh, the first half was brutal enough... didn't think it was impossible for them to come back, but wasn't going to waste time finding out. Had they won, it would have been despite TCU bleeding the clock, so I was pretty sure I wasn't going to miss some kind of high-flying half of basketball.

ISU is 2-8 over the last 10 years in Manhattan. KU is 8-2 over the last 10 years in Manhattan. See the difference?

If KU had just gone to the foul strategy from the beginning of the 2nd half, they win that game. It would have taken like 2 hours to play, but it would have done the job with all of the extra possessions KU would have gained. I hesitate to criticize Self, but I'm not sure I would have let TCU continue to run the clock out as they did for much of the 2nd half.

Exactly. It would be annoying if rival fans or the media brought it up for years to come, but that's not going to happen since it was just a random game in February. I guess those who want to remember it for years to come can do that, and I'll concentrate on watching better games for the rest of the season. :shrug:

how bout that hilton magic?

Or that's just a load of bullshit that you're deriving from a sample size of two games.

Yeah...I just don't buy the "historical way you lost" side of it. It is one game in an entire season...

...if we had lost and been elimated in the tourney in that fashion, ending our season...I would buy it.

The team just didn't show up last night.

They play again on Saturday.

That is how I see it...

If they lose the B12 by a game or something, then yeah, maybe it gains some added meaning due to that failure. If they bounce back and win it, well, it's just a rather meaningless anecdote.

It's about as magical and the "Octagon of Doom" is....doomy? Heh.

It is funny how an ISU fan who hasn't talked much college basketball at all this year makes an attempt to come in and talk smack. ROFL

Like I previously said - RustShack is that cute, young kid you see in public and go "awwww, he's so cute."

Then he opens his mouth and starts drooling all over his Care Bears sweatshirt.

I'm just saying people will talk about and remember it and give KU fans crap about it, the same way Ku fans talk crap to other fans for their historic loss's....It's called kicking the man when he is down...DUH

It doesn't matter Pre Hoiberg, and I'm a little disappointed you aren't smart enough to know the difference. His first year didn't really count either, even though the greatly exceeded expectations that year. Fred era really started last year.

As for Hilton Magic, 2 losses in 2 years. We've won 20 straight. I'd say its being restored.

Go back to the start of the season. I said it would be similar to last year, but we would have won the Big12 if Royce returned. Yep, still a pretty good team like I thought we would be.

Keep fighting the good fight, little buddy. :thumb:

Pretty sure much earlier in the thread I asked who would be the third best behind KU and ISU.

* denotes Until KU comes to town.

^^^^^^^ The Iowa version of Billay?

Just be glad Thomas Robinson bolted with him to the Draft.

Eh I don't know. We were in some foul trouble. I think I I we're coach I'd have trapped out of the press. We had some success once we started doing it. And we have some pressure on the inbounds but once they got it in everybody cleared out. If they would have stuck around to double and help enough to deny the short passes, I think we'd have had some success. Particularly when Young was in there.

But yeah. Not a damn thing was working. I don't know what the **** a coach is supposed to do when the team plays THAT shitty.

Good, very good.

Hopefully this will light a fire under these kids asses.

I'll be back on Sunday, I expect a happy thread when I get back.

Colorado?

The fouling strategy didn't work because we couldn't score anyway. We only gave up 62 despite handing them a dozen FT chances in the last 2 minutes. That team wasn't going to score regardless of whether you let them run their "offense" (323rd in the nation out of like 340 schools) or fouled them.


The turnovers and abysmal shooting made it impossible to beat anyone last nite.

That's true. But given the situation, that's what I would have done.

Get off the planet while on vacation you ****ing n00b!

good thing it was TCU, otherwise it could have been a 20+ point loss

Unless it was K-State, in which case it would've been another automatic win.

#1 just went down.

Illinois with a crazy wide open in-bounds play with 0.9 seconds to go.

Yup, sitting in Golden right now drinking some beer.

stop harassing me.

This is gonna be a ****ing crazy ass March. I feel better. Everyone has the shits.

:rockon:

Yeah, when I say the foul strategy, I mean pressuring the hell out of them and trying to create turnovers but also accepting fouls if they couldn't create them. That would have been better than letting them running the clock out every possession. Even as bad as KU was scoring for most of the game, if you gave them an extra 10 possessions to score with, they still probably pull it out.

Boy, oh, boy do we have ourselves some drama in the Big 12.

The league is, totally and utterly, up for grabs as we begin the second half.

Power rankings!



Front-Running Four

1. Oklahoma State (16-5, 6-3)

The Cowboys have won four in a row, with the last three coming in dramatic fashion against the league’s best teams.

I’ve been high on the ‘Pokes since the preseason, but they’re just now rounding into form.

This is a very talented team that’s building momentum.

It is now also a team that’s proven itself, both at home and on the road.



2. Iowa State (16-6, 6-3)

The Cyclones did what they were supposed to do in the last week: Protect their home court.

I hesitate to put them this high, but the Cyclones simply dismantled Oklahoma on Monday after looking clearly superior to Baylor on Saturday.

Iowa State is a team capable of going on a big-time run should they be able to get past Kansas State tomorrow.

ISU needs to prove not only that it can win away from Hilton Coliseum, but that its also capable of playing high-level basketball over an extended period of time.



3. Kansas (19-3, 7-2)

I think the Jayhawks are still probably the best team in the Big 12, but, man, oh, man are they reeling right now.

Not only have they lost two straight, the second of which I still am waiting to wake up and learn I was in the Matrix, but Bill Self is eviscerating his team in the press.

I’m sure it’s a long-term motivational strategy by Self, perhaps the best coach in the country, but the Jayhawks certainly didn’t respond to it against TCU.



4. Kansas State (18-4, 7-2)

The Wildcats are riding a three-game win streak, but two of those wins came against Texas and Texas Tech. The third, at Oklahoma, isn’t looking so great after the Cyclones thumped the Sooners.

Saturday’s showdown with ISU is a monumental game for both teams as they begin the Big 12’s final lap.



A step behind

5. Oklahoma (14-7, 5-4)

The Sooners have loss back-to-back games and welcome Kansas to Norman tomorrow.

They’re teetering a bit after a strong, but suspicious start to the season.



6. Baylor (14-8, 5-4)

It’s been three-straight losses for the Bears against the teams they needed to beat to announce themselves as real contenders in the league.



Spoiler Central

7. West Virginia (11-11, 4-5)

The Mountaineers are enjoying their first winning streak (two games) since they won three straight late in December.

They’ll have a chance to upset the apple cart a couple times this season yet with Oklahoma State, Baylor and Iowa State still scheduled to visit Morgantown.



8. Texas (10-12, 2-7)

The Longhorns have just one more game before welcoming Myck Kabongo back into the fold. Will it make a difference?

UT gets the nod here over the Horned Frogs because of its 17-point win over TCU right before TCU went and shocked the country.



9. TCU (10-12, 1-8)

OUT OF THE CELLAR!!!!!!!



10. Texas Tech (9-11, 2-7)

The Red Raiders haven’t won since beating Iowa State in Lubbock.