Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207199)

The people who support SOC are obviously all on board with "FIRE PIOLI".

If you add "DRAFT GENO" to that, you're going to lose some of the people who want to fire Pioli and draft Barkley or fire Pioli and sign Alex Smith or fire Pioli and get two mid-round QBs to compete with Brady Quinn, or whatever.

If you add something less specific, like "DRAFT A QB IN THE 1ST", you'll have less erosion of support from the fire Pioli crowd, but there will probably still be some who would rather defer to Pioli's successor (who might choose to trade for a QB instead, for example).

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9207186)

I don't perceive a divide. Not a meaningful one, anyway.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207199)

Pioli's successor (who might choose to trade for a QB instead, for example).

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207229)

I wasn't EVER suggesting we mention Geno Smith by name.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207229)

By and large, the people who don't want a QB are also the people that think Pioli is staying (or should stay). We'll NEVER reach those people, regardless of our message.

Again, other than beating a dead horse and satisfying some fans who just can't be patient, what purpose does another "fire Pioli" banner do?

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207305)

The primary purpose is maintaining a consistent message

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207305)

and the secondary purpose is to avoid coming across like some fantasy GM wannabes.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207236)

All the MORE reason to get the "draft a QB" message out.

Trading for somebody else's sloppy seconds is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207317)

This has already been accomplished. No need for any more banners.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207320)

See, you just lost me. I'd rather trade for Brett Favre than draft David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, or Dave Brown (the three 1st round QBs taken the year Green Bay traded their first round pick for Favre).

I think it would be great if the Chiefs use the #1 pick overall on a QB who ends up being a stud. But I'd prefer getting a stud in any way possible over drafting a #1 bust and if a new GM isn't better at figuring out which option is most likely to lead to a stud than I am, we've got the wrong new GM.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207330)

So who is that guy you're trading for then? The Brett Favre that got traded from Atlanta to Green Bay doesn't exist in the modern NFL. Guys don't sit on the bench anymore, if they're decent, they play.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

If they don't draft a QB, we won't be having anymore of these discussions because I'm ****ing done with this stupid ****ing franchise.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207320)

See, you just lost me. I'd rather trade for Brett Favre than draft David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, or Dave Brown (the three 1st round QBs taken the year Green Bay traded their first round pick for Favre).

I think it would be great if the Chiefs use the #1 pick overall on a QB who ends up being a stud. But I'd prefer getting a stud in any way possible over drafting a #1 bust and if a new GM isn't better at figuring out which option is most likely to lead to a stud than I am, we've got the wrong new GM.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207347)

If he doesn't exist, then the smart new GM Clark hires won't trade for him and all will be well. If the smart new GM thinks that Kirk Cousins or Ryan Mallet is a better prospect than any of the draft prospects, then I'd rather have Cousins or Mallet. I know I'm not as smart as the smart new GM that Clark should hire and, when it comes to talent evaluation, I sure hope he's smarter than any other ChiefsPlanet poster too. That's not a shot at CP posters, it's a sincere hope.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207236)

All the MORE reason to get the "draft a QB" message out.

Trading for somebody else's sloppy seconds is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9207392)

If the smart new GM thinks Cousins or Mallett is a better prospect than any of the ones in the draft, he isn't smart. He's a ****ing idiot.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9207660)

OK, whatever you say. If only Clark would hire you to be the new GM. Our Superbowl drought would be as good as over.

HIRE HTISMAQE PLEASE! - SOC

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