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DeezNutz 07-27-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9838559)
Will you guys please stop with the Wil Meyers complaining. You're grown men whining, he is gone. Get over it.

No. It was a defining moment of the Moore era, and I will not stop reflecting upon it or using it as a barometer of where the club stands going forward. Doing otherwise would result in shallow analysis, IMO.

TambaBerry 07-27-2013 03:28 PM

Then start a complaining thread, Shields has been great for us this year. If our offense was as good as last year we would have had a real shot. This trade worked for both clubs.

SAUTO 07-27-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9838566)
Then start a complaining thread, Shields has been great for us this year. If our offense was as good as last year we would have had a real shot. This trade worked for both clubs.

You the keeper of this thread now?
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DeezNutz 07-27-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9838566)
Then start a complaining thread, Shields has been great for us this year. If our offense was as good as last year we would have had a real shot. This trade worked for both clubs.

Shields has been outstanding. No question. Davis has been atrocious. Collectively, they've been a wash in terms of WAR. And Myers has been a positive WAR player in very short order.

It didn't work for both clubs. The Royals would have been better to keep Myers, start him immediately, and invest in another FA pitcher. Additionally, one must factor in the controllable years of Myers going forward.

The trade was an absolute disaster for the Royals.

Prison Bitch 07-27-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9838562)
No. It was a defining moment of the Moore era, and I will not stop reflecting upon it or using it as a barometer of where the club stands going forward. Doing otherwise would result in shallow analysis, IMO.

Fair enough but have to recognize Lough too

DeezNutz 07-27-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9838616)
Fair enough but have to recognize Lough too

Absolutely. If Lough consistently performs at his current level, he's a viable RF option. Now, we're going to have to get slug from another position, but Lough is far from trash at his current clip, especially defensively speaking.

mr. tegu 07-27-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9838645)
Absolutely. If Lough consistently performs at his current level, he's a viable RF option. Now, we're going to have to get slug from another position, but Lough is far from trash at his current clip, especially defensively speaking.

Definitely. If we are getting any type of power from where we should be getting it, Lough's lack of pure power would be an afterthought, and not having Myers wouldn't be as big of a deal either.

alnorth 07-27-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9838573)
Shields has been outstanding. No question. Davis has been atrocious. Collectively, they've been a wash in terms of WAR. And Myers has been a positive WAR player in very short order.

It didn't work for both clubs. The Royals would have been better to keep Myers, start him immediately, and invest in another FA pitcher. Additionally, one must factor in the controllable years of Myers going forward.

The trade was an absolute disaster for the Royals.

People love the front-line ace and are heavily tempted to chalk it up as a win just because of him, but you are right. Wade Davis was a critically important aspect of the trade, he had to work as a starter. Since he didn't, we're probably going to lose the trade unless Myers falls apart, or if Shields goes total Cy Young on us in 2014 and leads the Royals to the postseason.

ChiTown 07-27-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9838566)
Then start a complaining thread, Shields has been great for us this year. If our offense was as good as last year we would have had a real shot. This trade worked for both clubs.

Because this wasn't a Shields for Myers trade. We needed Wade Davis to be a legit #3-4 starter. He's been a legit POS and a Kyle Davies replica. **** Dayton Moore. I pray his dumb ****ing ass is fired after this season.

Prison Bitch 07-27-2013 06:51 PM

You don't need power from any lineup, you need value. Power creates more value than speed does but in the end if Lough creates as much value as Myers who cares if he doesn't have his power? We are struggling this year because Fat Ass decided to eat a bunch of country breakfasts this winter thinking he was a star, and because Moose sucks, and because DM played his pet in rf two full months when he had a good alternative in Omaha

Kidd Lex 07-27-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9839102)
You don't need power from any lineup, you need value. Power creates more value than speed does but in the end if Lough creates as much value as Myers who cares if he doesn't have his power? We are struggling this year because Fat Ass decided to eat a bunch of country breakfasts this winter thinking he was a star, and because Moose sucks, and because DM played his pet in rf two full months when he had a good alternative in Omaha

For once I agree with some of what you said, the JF torture in rf did cost us W's...

CoMoChief 07-27-2013 07:30 PM

The trade was stupid to begin with.

Why?

Because Shields is only going to be A Royal for 2 years. He'll get big money somewhere else.

Wade Davis sucks.

We give up our 1st/2nd best minor league pitching prospect and one (if not best) Royals hitting prospect in quite some time for a 2 season rental on a team that realistically isn't ready to compete w/ the big sticks of the division over the course of a season.

This team needs power bats to move our dinker hitting offense around the bases. Butler needs protection. That's the most important thing in this lineup and he simply doesn't have it.

Deberg_1990 07-27-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9839102)
You don't need power from any lineup, you need value. Power creates more value than speed does but in the end if Lough creates as much value as Myers who cares if he doesn't have his power? We are struggling this year because Fat Ass decided to eat a bunch of country breakfasts this winter thinking he was a star, and because Moose sucks, and because DM played his pet in rf two full months when he had a good alternative in Omaha

It's mind boggling why the Royals stuck with Francour and now Getz for so long? The only thing I can think of why they were not up graded is because DM thought that Moose/Hosmer/Butler would make up for their suck.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-27-2013 07:45 PM

David ****ing Lough.

AndChiefs 07-27-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9839366)
David ****ing Lough.

Pretty good, huh?


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