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George Liquor 03-19-2015 04:34 PM
Secsecse-shut the **** up

Saul Good 03-19-2015 05:59 PM
Good work Big 12. Worst day in tournament history by a conference.

Eleazar 03-19-2015 06:49 PM
Early Lead

It was an awful day for Big 12 teams in the NCAA tournament
By Marissa Payne March 19 at 6:37 PM
The Washington Post

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...4cf.jpg&w=1484

It was a downright awful day for Big 12 teams in the NCAA tournament. All three Big 12 teams that played on Thursday lost, including two in big-time upsets. No. 3 seed Iowa State lost 60-59 to No. 14 seed University of Alabama Birmingham, and No. 3 seed Baylor lost 57-56 to No. 14 seed Georgia State. No. 11 seed Texas went out quieter to No. 6 seed Butler, 56-48.

The Big 12 is tied for first with the Big Ten for the most teams in the tournament. Each conference fielded seven teams this year, but as of Thursday evening, one had already sent three teams home.

...

If more upsets occur, more people will likely wonder if the selection committee that chooses and seeds the teams might want to reassess its reliance on ranking algorithms, such as the RPI. The Big 12 was the top-ranked conference according to RPI rankings this year, which has now raised more than a few eyebrows online.

TribalElder 03-19-2015 07:13 PM
Wow, you mean they were over rated lulz

Bowser 03-19-2015 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11391686)
KU Football looks up to lots of programs across the country.

Missouri isn't one of them.
Ironic considering how Missouri deservingly looks down on Kansas.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11392966)
Secsecse-shut the **** up
http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads...-Laugh-GIF.gif

Prison Bitch 03-19-2015 07:29 PM
It's March Madness and you're still talking about your 1-9 record vs winning league teams. That's just sad

Bowser 03-19-2015 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11393258)
It's March Madness and you're still talking about your 1-9 record vs winning league teams. That's just sad
Apologies.

How about the Big XII-2 today?

Prison Bitch 03-19-2015 07:40 PM
They're pulling an SEC West bowl season so far

Bowser 03-19-2015 07:44 PM
And just like that....football smack IN THE MIDDLE OF MARCH MADNESS. Are you sure you're a KU fan making football references during this holiest of months?

TomBarndtsTwin 03-19-2015 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11393174)
Early Lead

It was an awful day for Big 12 teams in the NCAA tournament
By Marissa Payne March 19 at 6:37 PM
The Washington Post

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...4cf.jpg&w=1484

It was a downright awful day for Big 12 teams in the NCAA tournament. All three Big 12 teams that played on Thursday lost, including two in big-time upsets. No. 3 seed Iowa State lost 60-59 to No. 14 seed University of Alabama Birmingham, and No. 3 seed Baylor lost 57-56 to No. 14 seed Georgia State. No. 11 seed Texas went out quieter to No. 6 seed Butler, 56-48.

The Big 12 is tied for first with the Big Ten for the most teams in the tournament. Each conference fielded seven teams this year, but as of Thursday evening, one had already sent three teams home.

...

If more upsets occur, more people will likely wonder if the selection committee that chooses and seeds the teams might want to reassess its reliance on ranking algorithms, such as the RPI. The Big 12 was the top-ranked conference according to RPI rankings this year, which has now raised more than a few eyebrows online.
Ouch.


That's gotta sting.

George Liquor 03-19-2015 08:28 PM
Nobody ever chants Big XII, Big XII, Big XII.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-19-2015 08:31 PM
Wouldn't be any reason to after today . . . . .

CoMoChief 03-19-2015 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11393388)
Nobody ever chants Big XII, Big XII, Big XII.
LOL this is true

TribalElder 03-19-2015 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11393388)
Nobody ever chants Big XII, Big XII, Big XII.
Why would anyone ever want to do that LMAO

Prison Bitch 03-19-2015 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11393293)
And just like that....football smack IN THE MIDDLE OF MARCH MADNESS. Are you sure you're a KU fan making football references during this holiest of months?
You can still experience your own March Madness by driving to St Louis and watching dat wrasslin' squad

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 06:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11393388)
Nobody ever chants Big XII, Big XII, Big XII.
No shit. It's garbage ROFL you are one butthurt sumbitch btw

Prison Bitch 03-20-2015 06:59 AM
"Today we are all NM State fans" - Discus the doofus

Eleazar 03-20-2015 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11393713)
"Today we are all NM State fans" - Discus the doofus
Eh. Surely not every team in the Big XII-II can go down in the first round.

Bambi 03-20-2015 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11393846)
Eh. Surely not every team in the Big XII-II can go down in the first round.
Kansas has been used to carrying the flag of the Big 8/Big 12. I don't see anything changing with that today.

Saul Good 03-20-2015 09:10 AM
You carried it all the way to the round of 32 last year. Iowa State carried the conference to the round of 16.

Prison Bitch 03-20-2015 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394006)
Kansas has been used to carrying the flag of the Big 8/Big 12. I don't see anything changing with that today.
Disagree. We carry no flag but our own. Unless you feel Peyton Manning was "carrying the flag" for the AFC West last year.

Pepe Silvia 03-20-2015 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11393713)
"Today we are all NM State fans" - Discus the doofus
I'll be pissed if you lose, I want your chest thumping to be justifiable.

TribalElder 03-20-2015 09:51 AM
Yeah, it's the next game where I would bet they lose

TomBarndtsTwin 03-20-2015 10:52 AM
"The Big 12 spent all season puffing out its chest. The league pointed to its RPI, that mercurial number that seems to take on meaning only in March, and the number of teams it had in the Top 25 as evidence of its superiority.

Then, Black Thursday came along.

The Big 12 tournament champ, Iowa State, was the first to go down on the first full day of the NCAA tournament. Fellow 3-seed Baylor was ousted minutes later. No. 11 seed Texas capped the historically bad day for the league when it flamed out against Butler.



The good news? The Big 12's other four teams play Friday. Ninth-seeded Oklahoma State is in a toss-up game with eighth-seeded Oregon in the West Region. Fifth-seeded West Virginia is a slight favorite against No. 12 seed Buffalo. But No. 3 seed Oklahoma is a heavy favorite against Albany, as is No. 2 seed Kansas, which opens the tournament against No. 15 seed New Mexico State.

"It's been a rough day," Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford said Thursday.

"I fielded a lot of questions the last two or three days about how the Big 12 has been the best league in America all year long. All the numbers say it," Ford said. "And the popular question was, 'Well, what if you don't do so good?' And I said, 'That doesn't matter.' I'm not going to base anything on one day or three weeks."

The problem is just about everybody else will.

The Big 12 has had seven teams dancing each of the past two seasons, equaling the conference record. But the results have been humbling at best, humiliating at worst.

Last year, just two teams reached the Sweet 16. One made it the year before that. With the exception of Kansas, which won the championship in 2008 and returned to the Final Four in 2012, no Big 12 school has made the national semifinals since Oklahoma State in 2004."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...caa-tournament



Time to step it up today, Big 12.

Eleazar 03-20-2015 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 11394306)
"The Big 12 spent all season puffing out its chest. The league pointed to its RPI, that mercurial number that seems to take on meaning only in March, and the number of teams it had in the Top 25 as evidence of its superiority.

Then, Black Thursday came along

...

The Big 12 has had seven teams dancing each of the past two seasons, equaling the conference record. But the results have been humbling at best, humiliating at worst.

Last year, just two teams reached the Sweet 16. One made it the year before that. With the exception of Kansas, which won the championship in 2008 and returned to the Final Four in 2012, no Big 12 school has made the national semifinals since Oklahoma State in 2004

...
No... that conference isn't top-heavy...

Bambi 03-20-2015 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11394085)
Disagree. We carry no flag but our own. Unless you feel Peyton Manning was "carrying the flag" for the AFC West last year.
I stand corrected.

Another KU tourney win. Most playoff wins since 2000.

It's great day to be a Jayhawk.

Bambi 03-20-2015 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 11394306)
"The Big 12 spent all season puffing out its chest. The league pointed to its RPI, that mercurial number that seems to take on meaning only in March, and the number of teams it had in the Top 25 as evidence of its superiority.

Then, Black Thursday came along.

The Big 12 tournament champ, Iowa State, was the first to go down on the first full day of the NCAA tournament. Fellow 3-seed Baylor was ousted minutes later. No. 11 seed Texas capped the historically bad day for the league when it flamed out against Butler.



The good news? The Big 12's other four teams play Friday. Ninth-seeded Oklahoma State is in a toss-up game with eighth-seeded Oregon in the West Region. Fifth-seeded West Virginia is a slight favorite against No. 12 seed Buffalo. But No. 3 seed Oklahoma is a heavy favorite against Albany, as is No. 2 seed Kansas, which opens the tournament against No. 15 seed New Mexico State.

"It's been a rough day," Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford said Thursday.

"I fielded a lot of questions the last two or three days about how the Big 12 has been the best league in America all year long. All the numbers say it," Ford said. "And the popular question was, 'Well, what if you don't do so good?' And I said, 'That doesn't matter.' I'm not going to base anything on one day or three weeks."

The problem is just about everybody else will.

The Big 12 has had seven teams dancing each of the past two seasons, equaling the conference record. But the results have been humbling at best, humiliating at worst.

Last year, just two teams reached the Sweet 16. One made it the year before that. With the exception of Kansas, which won the championship in 2008 and returned to the Final Four in 2012, no Big 12 school has made the national semifinals since Oklahoma State in 2004."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...caa-tournament



Time to step it up today, Big 12.
What a pointless article to post. Who cares what a conference does in a tournament? Only one team wins.

Yet another concept MU fans just can't realize.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:13 PM
Please tell me you aren't sitting at home doing that gay ass chant ROFL

Pepe Silvia 03-20-2015 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394565)
It's great day to be a Jayhawk.
For beating New Mexico State? Setting the bar pretty low there eh?

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11394597)
For beating New Mexico State? Setting the bar pretty low there eh?
Their coach did that well enough.

Sully 03-20-2015 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11394085)
Disagree. We carry no flag but our own. Unless you feel Peyton Manning was "carrying the flag" for the AFC West last year.
interesting coming from the guy who, during football season, kept us updated daily on conference, as well as divisional Sagarin rankings.

Also, you're a dumbass if you think your cute little Manning quip has any meaning, here. In professional sports it does no one any good for someone from their division to succeed. Obviously, in college, there is actual benefit to teams within a conference being successful.

Stop always being wrong.

Bambi 03-20-2015 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11394597)
For beating New Mexico State? Setting the bar pretty low there eh?
9 straight 1st round victories.

****ing incredible.

Bambi 03-20-2015 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11394604)
interesting coming from the guy who, during football season, kept us updated daily on conference, as well as divisional Sagarin rankings.

Also, you're a dumbass if you think your cute little Manning quip has any meaning, here. In professional sports it does no one any good for someone from their division to succeed. Obviously, in college, there is actual benefit to teams within a conference being successful.

Stop always being wrong.
What are the benefits?

Do you put banners up when Alabama and Kentucky win? Or LSU, Auburn and Florida?

Those are the only schools in the SEC that ever do anything.

Stay at the back of the line where you belong Missouri.

Pepe Silvia 03-20-2015 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394613)
9 straight 1st round victories.

****ing incredible.
We're kings of the first round. /Said nobody

George Liquor 03-20-2015 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11394631)
We're kings of the first round. /Said nobody
9 straight first round victories

9 victories this season

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:31 PM
That's what happens when you pad your seeding in a garbage league

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:32 PM
Self worth!!! These mushmouths make my life complete.

George Liquor 03-20-2015 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11394642)
That's what happens when you pad your seeding in a garbage league
Your schtick is boring and tired.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-20-2015 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394613)
9 straight 1st round victories.

****ing incredible.
Bill Self is the King of the 1st Round, no question.


Now, if he could just get that tricky second round figured out . . . . .

Bambi 03-20-2015 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394637)
9 straight first round victories

9 victories this season
good night the lights

:clap:

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394645)
Your schtick is boring and tired.
Your butt is strongly hurt

Prison Bitch 03-20-2015 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11394604)
interesting coming from the guy who, during football season, kept us updated daily on conference, as well as divisional Sagarin rankings.

Also, you're a dumbass if you think your cute little Manning quip has any meaning, here. In professional sports it does no one any good for someone from their division to succeed. Obviously, in college, there is actual benefit to teams within a conference being successful.

Stop always being wrong.
I have no clue why Bammy being dominant (and running the score up on you when you play) is good for you. Kentucky and Kansas both proved ruling a League of non-powers has zero effect on them.



Why would you believe such a myth?

George Liquor 03-20-2015 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11394653)
Your butt is strongly hurt
It just a think it's funny how badly you want to discount our basketball program, but the only people that buy it are the other MUtards in this thread and Billay.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-20-2015 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394664)
It just a think it's funny how badly you want to discount our basketball program, but the only people that buy it are the other MUtards in this thread and Billay.
Sucks to be you and the Rudders then

George Liquor 03-20-2015 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11394682)
Sucks to be you and the Rudders then
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...6392792602.png

George Liquor 03-20-2015 12:55 PM
We march on, while you sit at home and count your wins on your fingers and pretend that you don't care about basketball.

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394693)
We march on, while you sit at home and count your wins on your fingers and pretend that you don't care about basketball.
you know the funny thing about this post is that I frankly really don't give two shits about mizzou basketball until kimmy is gone. hated the hire when it was announced that he was even a possibility.

it's pretty great that we can even reverse your statement and use it during football season (look at the stands of both ku football and mu basketball, except mu sucks less and less consistently)

Quote:
We march on, while you sit at home and count your wins on less than a hand and pretend that you don't care about football.

George Liquor 03-20-2015 01:40 PM
But you're forgetting one thing.. It's basketball season.

Bambi 03-20-2015 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394773)
you know the funny thing about this post is that I frankly really don't give two shits about mizzou basketball until kimmy is gone. hated the hire when it was announced that he was even a possibility.

it's pretty great that we can even reverse your statement and use it during football season (look at the stands of both ku football and mu basketball, except mu sucks less and less consistently)
KU Football has proven the mountaintop is possible in football. MU has done no such thing in basketball. Hasn't proven it in football either.

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394785)
But you're forgetting one thing.. It's tourney time.
FYP

won't be for much longer. it's ALWAYS football season with recruiting, the draft, free agency, training camp, playoffs, etc. football is 24/7. basketball is filler at best (at least to mizzou fans since norm stewart and a few fluke elite 8 runs), so it's pretty easy to understand why mu fans are so blase on college basketball

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394787)
KU Football has proven the mountaintop is possible in football. MU has done no such thing in basketball. Hasn't proven it in football either.
ROFL mountaintop. sure. call me when you actually make a conference title game in football, I literally can't find a single instance of this EVER happening for KU. hell, has it happened in any of our lifetimes?

Bambi 03-20-2015 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394790)
FYP

won't be for much longer. it's ALWAYS football season with recruiting, the draft, free agency, training camp, playoffs, etc. football is 24/7. basketball is filler at best (at least to mizzou fans since norm stewart and a few fluke elite 8 runs), so it's pretty easy to understand why mu fans are so blase on college basketball
That's a sad outlook on things.

Any sport is "year-long" if you choose to pay attention. Basketball's season itself covers two semesters which is much longer than a college football season.

Sucks for those who only follow football that the real interest is only for a couple months.

George Liquor 03-20-2015 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394790)
FYP

won't be for much longer. it's ALWAYS football season with recruiting, the draft, free agency, training camp, playoffs, etc. football is 24/7. basketball is filler at best (at least to mizzou fans since norm stewart and a few fluke elite 8 runs), so it's pretty easy to understand why mu fans are so blase on college basketball
Yeah, I know.. You're a "football school" now.

:whackit:

Bambi 03-20-2015 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394795)
ROFL mountaintop. sure. call me when you actually make a conference title game in football, I literally can't find a single instance of this EVER happening for KU. hell, has it happened in any of our lifetimes?
KU has won in the BCS. Could a national title be possible? Sure, when you win a game as high profile as a BCS game.

We'll just have to see what the new staff is able to do.

Pinkle has been coach for a decade and MU has next to nothing.

Different strokes I suppose.

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:47 PM
matter of fact, with the BCS, they took the top 8 teams, right? ignoring wildcards/at large bids, we'll go with that.

by that standard, TOP EIGHT, we've been there twice since norm stewart retired.

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394797)
That's a sad outlook on things.

Any sport is "year-long" if you choose to pay attention. Basketball's season itself covers two semesters which is much longer than a college football season.

Sucks for those who only follow football that the real interest is only for a couple months.
eh, it's pretty great actually. I got a three month old little girl, it allows me to pear down what sports I actually give a **** about pretty easily.

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394800)
Yeah, I know.. You're a "football school" now.

:whackit:
it's pretty great being a football school on a football message board. I don't have to rely on one and dones who don't give a **** about my team and are just looking for a payday while they under perform constantly :)

Bambi 03-20-2015 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394807)
eh, it's pretty great actually. I got a three month old little girl, it allows me to pear down what sports I actually give a **** about pretty easily.
Cool. Wish you guys win a big game eventually then. Must be a pretty dismal experience so far.

George Liquor 03-20-2015 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11394808)
it's pretty great being a football school on a football message board. I don't have to rely on one and dones who don't give a **** about my team and are just looking for a payday while they under perform constantly :)
Everyone goes to college looking for a pay day

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394810)
Cool. Wish you guys win a big game eventually then. Must be a pretty dismal experience so far.
nope. it's all good, man. we've seen more big games (you know, conference title games and high caliber bowl games) the last seven years than you've seen in your lifetime. considering the lows of mu football in the 80's, I can't complain at all with football

Ebolapox 03-20-2015 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11394814)
Everyone goes to college looking for a pay day
except when you play for KU (or kentucky, or UNC, duke, etc), you actually GET it before you've exhausted your eligibility :p

kepp 03-20-2015 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394810)
Cool. Wish you guys win a big game eventually then. Must be a pretty dismal experience so far.
I'd take a conference championship game and a New Year's Day bowl game every year in lieu of a one-time BCS "mountaintop" (when in reality it was really more of a paid-for trip to base camp).

Sully 03-20-2015 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394618)
What are the benefits?

Do you put banners up when Alabama and Kentucky win? Or LSU, Auburn and Florida?

Those are the only schools in the SEC that ever do anything.

Stay at the back of the line where you belong Missouri.
What are the benefits?

Do you sniff glue?

Sully 03-20-2015 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11394658)
I have no clue why Bammy being dominant (and running the score up on you when you play) is good for you. Kentucky and Kansas both proved ruling a League of non-powers has zero effect on them.



Why would you believe such a myth?
You're absolutely correct. Bama running up the score on Mizzou doesn't help Mizzou, at all.

You understand, I hope, that Bama plays other schools, though, right? And that some of those schools are from out of the conference, right?

Sully 03-20-2015 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11394787)
KU Football has proven the mountaintop is possible in football. MU has done no such thing in basketball. Hasn't proven it in football either.
Bambi; "We only care about championships!"

Bambi; "We got into a game we didn't deserve the better part of a decade ago, that wasn't a championship game, and was a part of a system so corrupt and screwed up that it has been done away with. That's the mountaintop, baby!!!"

Bambi 03-20-2015 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11395013)
Bambi; "We only care about championships!"

Bambi; "We got into a game we didn't deserve the better part of a decade ago, that wasn't a championship game, and was a part of a system so corrupt and screwed up that it has been done away with. That's the mountaintop, baby!!!"
No reason to think KU wouldn't have beaten the next team had the playoff system been in place.

How ironic that the BCS ended up ruining KU's chance at a National Championship and only had to settle for a BCS bowl victory. There's still work to be done.

Prison Bitch 03-20-2015 03:27 PM
I'll never understand why MU fans like a sport they have zero chance of ever winning anything meaningful in. Just crazy

ChiefsCountry 03-20-2015 03:42 PM
Guess KU is ready to be a victim for a 3 time by a Valley school.

Sully 03-20-2015 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395038)
No reason to think KU wouldn't have beaten the next team had the playoff system been in place.

How ironic that the BCS ended up ruining KU's chance at a National Championship and only had to settle for a BCS bowl victory. There's still work to be done.
No reason?

So now we are playing hypotheticals?

OK, I'll give a reason.
They had just been dismantled by Mizzou, who was both better than them on the field and in the rankings. That's a reason.

Sully 03-20-2015 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11395048)
I'll never understand why MU fans like a sport they have zero chance of ever winning anything meaningful in. Just crazy
Let me help you out. I understand things are difficult for you.
1. We have a considerably higher chance than zero. The only person who would think a that is, well, a moron.
2. It's a better sport. More entertaining, more interesting, and a bigger part of the national consciousness.
3. We've gotten pretty good at it, and continue to improve.

blake5676 03-20-2015 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395038)
No reason to think KU wouldn't have beaten the next team had the playoff system been in place.

How ironic that the BCS ended up ruining KU's chance at a National Championship and only had to settle for a BCS bowl victory. There's still work to be done.
Allow me to give you some reasons. You played the easiest schedule of any Power 5 team in the country that year. I've done this before, but let me put it out there for you again.

You played TWO ranked teams that year. You beat VT and lost to Mizzou. Using Sagarin ratings, (you and the bitch's favorite...at least when it fits your narrative) your nonconference schedule was the most disgusting thing ever put together.

The Sagarin ratings for those opponents was 82, 196, 126 and 170. For an average non-con opponent rating of 144 (Mizzou's was 30,80,106,147 and avg 91 for comparison)

You played the absolute easiest conference schedule possible. You played Baylor (117), A&M (42) and Ok St (27) while missing Oklahoma (5), Texas (12) and Texas Tech (24). So there's ZERO question about it. You played the absolute easiest conference schedule that was mathematically possible that year.

You overall opponent rating, including Mizzou and V Tech, comes in for the year at 80. (MU 52 for comparison)

By contrast, Mizzou played 3 teams which later were "selected" for a BCS game, beating TWO of them, KU and Illinois. They played a much more difficult non-conference schedule and played an un-debatable more difficult conference schedule as well.

Mizzou had 8 games against teams that went bowling, while KU had 5. These numbers are somewhat skewed however. A&M, Colorado and OK St all qualified with 6 win seasons and made bowls bc they are in a P-5. None of them were good teams. Therefore again...you played 2 quality teams all year.

Your opponents records in 2007 were:

8-6
3-8
5-7
1-11
5-7
3-9
6-7
7-6
5-7
7-6
3-9
12-2
11-3

I don't know how many people could objectively look at any of that data and say that your bowl game was either deserved OR indicative that you would/could have beaten USC, WV, Georgia or LSU if the BCS hadn't stopped your national championship run ROFL Convince me I'm wrong.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-20-2015 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395038)
No reason to think KU wouldn't have beaten the next team had the playoff system been in place.

How ironic that the BCS ended up ruining KU's chance at a National Championship and only had to settle for a BCS bowl victory. There's still work to be done.
Ironic? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

And, no, the BCS system didn't ruin your shot at a title; your loss to Missouri did. You WERE ranked #2 at the time you played Mizzou. If your team could have beat Mizzou, you would have got a shot at Oklahoma. Beat Oklahoma and you're playing for the Title.


But, as was stated before, you couldn't beat Mizzou.

Eleazar 03-20-2015 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395038)
No reason to think KU wouldn't have beaten the next team had the playoff system been in place.

How ironic that the BCS ended up ruining KU's chance at a National Championship and only had to settle for a BCS bowl victory. There's still work to be done.
They'd have never been there. You can't buy your way into the playoff system.

WilliamTheIrish 03-20-2015 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 11386223)
Maybe you can help us. What was it like to lose to UMKC?
If you're the KSU president at the time (Wefald) you overrule the AD (Weiser) who wants to fire him (Wooly) and award him a 6th year.

That's after losing to UMKC by 50 in Municipal Auditorium. Strangely enough, on that same night MU got beat handily by Belmont in CoMo.

Prison Bitch 03-20-2015 06:03 PM
NCAA Tournament Ratings Score 25-Year High, Up Double Digits Over 2014 – Update
dpatten
by Dominic Patten
March 20, 2015 2:15pm

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress...6&h=299&crop=1
Purdue v Cincinnati

UPDATE, 2:15 PM: A whole bunch of new games in this year’s 2015 NCAA Tournament have already started today but the final scores for last night’s match-ups are now in. Time zone adjusted and in and out of primetime, it was a 3-pointer for CBS. Unsurprisingly, Cincinnati’s close 1-point win over Purdue leaped up from last year’s game between Wofford and Michigan on the first Thursday of the 2014 tournament. Last night’s 7 – 9:53 PM game pulled in a 1.6/6 rating among adults 18-49 and had a total viewership of 5.514 million on CBS. That’s up 60% in the demo and 45% in overall audience over the first game in primetime on March 20, 2014. The game peaked in the 9:30 PM slot as it got down to the wire for both teams with a 2.8 rating and 8.938 million watching.


After a 14-min bridge between games, Kentucky’s 23-point defeat of Hampton started at 10:07 PM and ran until 12:35 AM on CBS. That game got a 1.8/7 with 5.460 million tuning in. That rout was up 38% among the 18-49s over the Arizona State vs. Texas game that was the second primetime game of last year’s first Thursday of the tournament. Total viewershipwise, last night’s Kentucky win beat last year’s second game by 50%. Now these are only CBS numbers and the game were also broadcast on TBS, TruTV and TNT but I stand by what I said earlier – BOOM!

PREVIOUS, 9:05 AM: March Madness hit primetime last night and the 2015 NCAA Tournament certainly brought a fair share of drama for its first Thursday, especially if you were watching the first game of the night. Cincinnati’s 66-65 victory over Purdue was a strong start to the madness as was top-ranked Kentucky’s 79-56 victory over Hampton — even more so if you had picked the former for your bracket. While certain to change as all live events ratings do, preliminary numbers have the 8-11 PM portion of the tournament scoring a 2.0/7 for the network in the key demo. That’s up a slam-dunk 82% rise over last year’s first Thursday’s early ratings. CBS easily won the night among adults 18-49

As we wait for final numbers, the metered market results can provide an indication of where things will end up – and it could be a very good place. Yesterday’s hoops coverage snagged a record-breaking 6.6/14 average. Broadcast across CBS, TNT, TruTV and TBS, that’s up 10% from last year. It’s also the best first Thursday metered-market result since the tournament expanded to being played over four windows for entire day in 1991. The primetime games garnered a 7.8/13 and a 7.1/13 to rise 1% and 15%, respectively, to 25-year highs – BOOM!

Bambi 03-20-2015 07:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 11395230)
Allow me to give you some reasons. You played the easiest schedule of any Power 5 team in the country that year. I've done this before, but let me put it out there for you again.

You played TWO ranked teams that year. You beat VT and lost to Mizzou. Using Sagarin ratings, (you and the bitch's favorite...at least when it fits your narrative) your nonconference schedule was the most disgusting thing ever put together.

The Sagarin ratings for those opponents was 82, 196, 126 and 170. For an average non-con opponent rating of 144 (Mizzou's was 30,80,106,147 and avg 91 for comparison)

You played the absolute easiest conference schedule possible. You played Baylor (117), A&M (42) and Ok St (27) while missing Oklahoma (5), Texas (12) and Texas Tech (24). So there's ZERO question about it. You played the absolute easiest conference schedule that was mathematically possible that year.

You overall opponent rating, including Mizzou and V Tech, comes in for the year at 80. (MU 52 for comparison)

By contrast, Mizzou played 3 teams which later were "selected" for a BCS game, beating TWO of them, KU and Illinois. They played a much more difficult non-conference schedule and played an un-debatable more difficult conference schedule as well.

Mizzou had 8 games against teams that went bowling, while KU had 5. These numbers are somewhat skewed however. A&M, Colorado and OK St all qualified with 6 win seasons and made bowls bc they are in a P-5. None of them were good teams. Therefore again...you played 2 quality teams all year.

Your opponents records in 2007 were:

8-6
3-8
5-7
1-11
5-7
3-9
6-7
7-6
5-7
7-6
3-9
12-2
11-3

I don't know how many people could objectively look at any of that data and say that your bowl game was either deserved OR indicative that you would/could have beaten USC, WV, Georgia or LSU if the BCS hadn't stopped your national championship run ROFL Convince me I'm wrong.
This all sounds great until KU freight-trains a Va Tech team chalk full of pros. Real programs turn it on when the lights get bright.

Bambi 03-20-2015 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11395385)
NCAA Tournament Ratings Score 25-Year High, Up Double Digits Over 2014 – Update
dpatten
by Dominic Patten
March 20, 2015 2:15pm

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress...6&h=299&crop=1
Purdue v Cincinnati

UPDATE, 2:15 PM: A whole bunch of new games in this year’s 2015 NCAA Tournament have already started today but the final scores for last night’s match-ups are now in. Time zone adjusted and in and out of primetime, it was a 3-pointer for CBS. Unsurprisingly, Cincinnati’s close 1-point win over Purdue leaped up from last year’s game between Wofford and Michigan on the first Thursday of the 2014 tournament. Last night’s 7 – 9:53 PM game pulled in a 1.6/6 rating among adults 18-49 and had a total viewership of 5.514 million on CBS. That’s up 60% in the demo and 45% in overall audience over the first game in primetime on March 20, 2014. The game peaked in the 9:30 PM slot as it got down to the wire for both teams with a 2.8 rating and 8.938 million watching.


After a 14-min bridge between games, Kentucky’s 23-point defeat of Hampton started at 10:07 PM and ran until 12:35 AM on CBS. That game got a 1.8/7 with 5.460 million tuning in. That rout was up 38% among the 18-49s over the Arizona State vs. Texas game that was the second primetime game of last year’s first Thursday of the tournament. Total viewershipwise, last night’s Kentucky win beat last year’s second game by 50%. Now these are only CBS numbers and the game were also broadcast on TBS, TruTV and TNT but I stand by what I said earlier – BOOM!

PREVIOUS, 9:05 AM: March Madness hit primetime last night and the 2015 NCAA Tournament certainly brought a fair share of drama for its first Thursday, especially if you were watching the first game of the night. Cincinnati’s 66-65 victory over Purdue was a strong start to the madness as was top-ranked Kentucky’s 79-56 victory over Hampton — even more so if you had picked the former for your bracket. While certain to change as all live events ratings do, preliminary numbers have the 8-11 PM portion of the tournament scoring a 2.0/7 for the network in the key demo. That’s up a slam-dunk 82% rise over last year’s first Thursday’s early ratings. CBS easily won the night among adults 18-49

As we wait for final numbers, the metered market results can provide an indication of where things will end up – and it could be a very good place. Yesterday’s hoops coverage snagged a record-breaking 6.6/14 average. Broadcast across CBS, TNT, TruTV and TBS, that’s up 10% from last year. It’s also the best first Thursday metered-market result since the tournament expanded to being played over four windows for entire day in 1991. The primetime games garnered a 7.8/13 and a 7.1/13 to rise 1% and 15%, respectively, to 25-year highs – BOOM!
The college basketball playoff is the premier sporting event in America next to the Super Bowl. We've already proven this in advertising dollars, but TV ratings supplement this fact.

tredadda 03-20-2015 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395448)
This all sounds great until KU freight-trains a Va Tech team chalk full of pros. Real programs turn it on when the lights get bright.
Except when the lights got bright against a Missouri team with a good share of pros you got beat. Try again.

tredadda 03-20-2015 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 11395449)
The college basketball playoff is the premier sporting event in America next to the Super Bowl. We've already proven this in advertising dollars, but TV ratings supplement this fact.
Nobody denies that the tournament is a big deal, it's just the season leading up to it is irrelevant as the ratings prove.

tredadda 03-20-2015 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11394085)
Disagree. We carry no flag but our own. Unless you feel Peyton Manning was "carrying the flag" for the AFC West last year.
Liar! You were pimping TCU and Baylor, your "true golden domers" during the bowl season. You continued to toot the horn of TCU after their convincing win while falling silent once your "true golden domers" got embarrassed on national TV again. You were one of the biggest cheerleaders for your conference while knocking Missouri fans for supporting their conference. So not only are you a liar, but you are also a hypocrite. Also your sidekick (or are you his sidekick?) still touts the OU win over Alabama two years ago.


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