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DeezNutz 07-22-2014 10:10 AM

Also, lack of strikezone awareness is as much about scouting as it is about development. Seitzer claims that it can be developed to a point, but that your eye for the zone is established by about the soph. year in college (or I'd assume equivalent time in the minors, though he didn't specify in this regard).

petegz28 07-22-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10759780)
Also, lack of strikezone awareness is as much about scouting as it is about development. Seitzer claims that it can be developed to a point, but that your eye for the zone is established by about the soph. year in college (or I'd assume equivalent time in the minors, though he didn't specify in this regard).

On 810 this morning they said we are the 3rd or 4th worst team for swinging at pitches out of the strike zone.

siberian khatru 07-22-2014 10:15 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore says the team does not plan to be deadline sellers. “We’re going to keep pushing until the standings say that we’re done.”</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491616589926514688">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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gblowfish 07-22-2014 10:19 AM

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On 810 this morning they said we are the 3rd or 4th worst team for swinging at pitches out of the strike zone.

Hey, at least we excel at SOMETHING....

siberian khatru 07-22-2014 10:24 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a>&#39; Moore on trade rumors: &quot;We&#39;re not just one hitter away...we&#39;ve got a lot of holes right now.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) <a href="https://twitter.com/jflanagankc/statuses/491618313651224576">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore: &quot;I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491618396098658304">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

DeezNutz 07-22-2014 10:24 AM

Going down with the ship. Good times for fans.

Could help the club now and in the future, but the soon-to-be-fired mother****er is more concerned about his job than the welfare of the club.

ChiTown 07-22-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10759817)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a>' Moore on trade rumors: &quot;We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) <a href="https://twitter.com/jflanagankc/statuses/491618313651224576">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore: &quot;I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491618396098658304">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

Are you ****ing kidding me? So.........

1.) We aren't sellers until the standings say we are out of it, meaning middle September, when you can't sell to anyone at that point

2. We are more than one player away, which means he's justifying why they won't make a deal for just one player who could help out

3. He's accountable, but the organization won't really hold anyone accountable for this ****ing mess.

#beingroyally****edsincenovember1985

gblowfish 07-22-2014 10:33 AM

Edgar needs to give GMDM a big ole spankin!

petegz28 07-22-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10759823)
Are you ****ing kidding me? So.........

1.) We aren't sellers until the standings say we are out of it, meaning middle September, when you can't sell to anyone at that point

2. We are more than one player away, which means he's justifying why they won't make a deal for just one player who could help out

3. He's accountable, but the organization won't really hold anyone accountable for this ****ing mess.

#beingroyally****edsincenovember1985


No kidding...it' snot Butler's fault he can't hit, run, field, throw

Sure-Oz 07-22-2014 10:35 AM

GMDM is going to try and save his ass. Keep losing royals

duncan_idaho 07-22-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10759817)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a>' Moore on trade rumors: &quot;We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) <a href="https://twitter.com/jflanagankc/statuses/491618313651224576">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore: &quot;I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491618396098658304">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job?

Those quotes at least lower my level of concern regarding moral hazard and our friend Dayton Moore. He seems unlikely to sell off too much for a small return.

Best case scenario would be Moore stepping away without making any major moves to acquire talent.

Keep whoever the Royals have working in Latin America, and the people that have been working with the pitching prospects since they canned Rick Knapp. Everything else is flushable.

New GM would inherit a hell of a lot more at MLB and in the minors than Dayton More did.

Nzoner 07-22-2014 10:40 AM

What a cluster**** all I can do is LMAO because it's better than :deevee:

DeezNutz 07-22-2014 10:40 AM

The "good news" is that the team isn't on life support. It's now officially mediocre, which is indeed better than when Moore arrived.

Because Kansas City.

At least we have the Chiefs. FML.

FringeNC 07-22-2014 10:41 AM

Earlier in the year, the Royals were somewhat masking their abysmal OPS with timely hitting with runners on. Not anymore. FWIW, for the season they have scored almost exactly the number of runs OPS predicted they would score.

Problem is not hitting with RISP. All teams are streaky. The problem is that our hitters and our hitting approach sucks. Strike zone management is a tool, and our guys don't have enough of it to hit major league pitching. It's time to flush this old-school, anti-Moneyball turd, Dayton Moore. The guy is a decent to good pitching scout and nothing more.

ChiTown 07-22-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10759845)
The "good news" is that the team isn't on life support. It's now officially mediocre, which is indeed better than when Moore arrived.

Because Kansas City.

At least we have the Chiefs. FML.

As I have stated before, I'll take ****ing awful, before I'll settle for mediocrity. The Royals are the Chiefs, except the Chiefs have massive Playoff FAIL, and the Royals just FAIL to make the Playoff's.....


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