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BigRichard 06-15-2015 02:29 PM

I also thought it would have been better had Brienne saved Stannis from those two guys only to condemn him to death by her own sword.

mdchiefsfan 06-15-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 11549883)
With Stannis and Renly dead with no heirs does Dragonstone now go to paddle boat boy? Wouldn't he technically speaking be the heir for all of this crap? Including the throne right? He is a bastard though but still.

It would go to whomever Tommen decides.

MagicHef 06-15-2015 03:39 PM

So Jon, along with other members of the Night's Watch, manage to bring back a bunch of wildlings, and have a crazy story about the Night's King raising a huge army of wights, validating Jon's decision to get as many wildlings south of the wall as possible.

Their reaction is to kill Jon?

At least they have a sensible motivation in the books.

DaFace 06-15-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11549984)
So Jon, along with other members of the Night's Watch, manage to bring back a bunch of wildlings, and have a crazy story about the Night's King raising a huge army of wights, validating Jon's decision to get as many wildlings south of the wall as possible.

Their reaction is to kill Jon?

At least they have a sensible motivation in the books.

I thought of that as well and agree completely.

Hammock Parties 06-15-2015 03:44 PM

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BigRichard 06-15-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11549893)
It would go to whomever Tommen decides.

I was talking about technically speaking. Because technically Tommen shouldn't even be the heir to Robert. So if Robert was dead and all his brothers are dead with no heirs who is technically speaking the heir.

So basically if the truth came out tomorrow that Tommen was not Robert's who would they give it to.

MagicHef 06-15-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 11550006)
I was talking about technically speaking. Because technically Tommen shouldn't even be the heir to Robert. So if Robert was dead and all his brothers are dead with no heirs who is technically speaking the heir.

So basically if the truth came out tomorrow that Tommen was not Robert's who would they give it to.

I think Daenerys is the closest living non-bastard relative.

Amnorix 06-15-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 11550006)
I was talking about technically speaking. Because technically Tommen shouldn't even be the heir to Robert. So if Robert was dead and all his brothers are dead with no heirs who is technically speaking the heir.

So basically if the truth came out tomorrow that Tommen was not Robert's who would they give it to.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11550043)
I think Daenerys is the closest living non-bastard relative.


I don't believe there is any known Baratheon left, so really the only possible answer is war, or a decision made by a group of powerful nobles to place some specific person on the throne.

In general, you would go back generations to find offshoots of the family. Some minor house that is related (as the Karstarks are to the Starks, for example), or whatever. In reality, what typically happens is the nobles just pick someone they can agree on to avert war, or you get a war of course.

This is how you get things like the War of the Roses, of course. House York and Lancaster being offshoots of House Plantagenet.

Hawk 06-15-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11549875)
Why would the Bolton's give up Sansa for Stannis?

Also....Sansa is technically gone right now.

Brienne doesn't know Sansa is gone. Maybe she just plans to give Stannis to the Boltons so she can win their favor and join them so she can be in Winterfell and keep a closer eye on Sansa? Anyway, I just feel like there is a reason they did not show Stannis actually be killed, and we all know it isn't to avoid a gory scene. They love a gory scene, so not to show it has to mean something. It could just be to leave a slight cliffhanger, but maybe she decides not to kill him. His words to her of "Do your duty" also seemed to have some meaning. Her duty is to Catelyn and Jaime to whom she swore to find Sansa and keep her safe. Her desire to kill Stannis is more about revenge than duty.

BigRedChief 06-15-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11549290)
I had sort of waffled back and forth over whether Jon was truly killed or not when he was stabbed at end of ADWD.

The way the show carried it out, though, left no doubt that he's supposed to be truly dead. There's no surviving that shit.

So I guess it's up to Melisandre to bring him back from the dead.

Oh I think most people think he is really dead. It's just that Melisandre is going to bring him back to life.

I think John Snow has something to do with all this all ends. But with GRR, ya never know.

Hawk 06-15-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11550102)
Oh I think most people think he is really dead. It's just that Melisandre is going to bring him back to life.

I think John Snow has something to do with all this all ends. But with GRR, ya never know.

In the books, Mel sees Jon in her flames, first a man, then a wolf, then a man again. If he wargs into Ghost, and Mel revives his body and he wargs back into his body, he should be able to come through with less side effects than Beric whose soul had no place to go and wait whenever he was repeatedly killed and brought back.

BigRedChief 06-15-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11549875)
Why would the Bolton's give up Sansa for Stannis?

Also....Sansa is technically gone right now.

She might not have got Sansa but she gives them Stannis alive and defintely could sell herself to the Boltons as a great sword to have around. She gets to keep her direct eye on Sansa and gets to watch young Bolton flay Stannis.

DaFace 06-15-2015 07:11 PM

Pretty solid takes on why the show this season has been considerably less interesting than the books if anyone's in the mood for the reading:

http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comme...ween_the_show/

mdchiefsfan 06-15-2015 09:22 PM

So turns out Lena Headley had a body double for the walking scene.
http://m.usmagazine.com/entertainmen...s-dead-2015156

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 06-15-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11550777)
So turns out Lena Headley had a body double for the walking scene.
http://m.usmagazine.com/entertainmen...s-dead-2015156

That's a shame


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