Apparently 12 WRs are going round 1.

I’d caution people to temper things when it comes to the 4.22 speed. Looks good on the outside but I still worry about Worthy’s hands and body frame.

Last year Rice, Nacua, Dell, Addison, Flowers and Reed were the best rookie WR’s.

None of them ran below a 4.4

If every WR in this class is DeSean Jackson or Devonta Smith, sure, why not.


LMAO

Walker is an interesting option in the later rounds imo.

None of the top guys ran sub 4.4, it was a bad class..

The best speed was Trey Palmer at 4.33

That's irrelevant, he's arguing size. DRob, Pringle, Rice are all good sized receivers.

Hill is small. Hardman was a panic move when it looked like Hill was in legal trouble and had Hill like speed.

I don't think the Chiefs seek out large receivers necessarily, but I think the narrative that they go for small ones is overblown.

Rice seemed to break the mold.

Usually we have gone for players that have one trait and not much else.

Hardman
Skyy Moore
MVS

And yet 1 WR broke the franchises rookie WR record (Rice), another broke the rookie WR record (Nacua) , another had 10 TD’s (Addison) and another had 7 TD’s and 700 yards in only 10 games before getting hurt (Dell)

Just posted in the draft forum about this very thing.

I think the guaranteed guys are Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Worthy, and Thomas. Then I'd say 1 of the 3 of Franklin, Mitchell, and McConkey. It'll probably come down to a team preference on body composition/scheme fit. I still feel like from an on-the-field perspective, that player is Franklin. That'll be your first round.

We actually agree on most of this.

Just switch Worthy and Adonai.

Thomas, Wilson, Hardman, James are all small guys. ALL have been on the team since Pat made his debut. Moore is ANOTHER small guy and Toney isn't tall either but keep making excuses buddy.

Track speed doesn’t always mean game speed. Fans overvalue 40 times.

Football isn't just running in a straight line.



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But Worthy clearly has game speed. Have you ever seen him play? There's a reason he's only 20 years old and has 3 productive college seasons.

Very interesting since FA starts before the draft...

Exactly. My point wasn't about Worthy vs Metcalf per say but moreso to show that as much as people think they "know", they really dont know anything about how these guys will do at the next level, regardless of how much information is available, including film.

Sure it makes for entertaining back 'n forth, but there's just too many variables that come into play post-draft to accurately project how productive these guys will be, let alone try to stand on that projection like its pre-destined. If we could then there'd be no such things as steals and busts.

I’d rather have Pearsall over Franklin

It's almost like being a good football player is more important than just pure track speed. Hmmmm strange

Pearsall will soon be 24. Veach ain't doing it.

Yeah MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, Mitchell and Thomas Jr won’t be available for us. Idk that Worthy will be either.

Pretty clear that WR is by far the strength of this draft class. I think the top 5 will go in the first 20 picks while Worthy goes between 20-25.

Then what?

Maybe 8. This is the best WR class in 20+ years.

They said the same thing about Rice. That turned out ok.

Allegedly

WHOA!!! Slow down tiger.

Because the 2nd round is just as good.

I love ya Run, but you do this every year. 50 players can't go in the 1st.

Worthy will get over drafted bc of his 40. You know who else has elite caliber speed and will only be 20 years old?

Troy Franklin.

Especially in Reid's offense. Quickness, explosion and ability to change direction means a lot too. We need a deep threat but it's not like we're an all-out vertical offense. Toney and MVS were two of the fastest guys in the league and it's not like they lit it up in this offense.

I like Franklin's tape more, but it was always close, and today it really wasn't.

I don't know, I might prefer Worthy.

Honestly, Franklin, Worthy, Thomas Jr., and even Mitchell now are all very close for me. Legette isn't far behind.

Franklin is a slower, frailer MVS.

Gotta think Andy Reid could manufacture a million motions and concepts to get Worthy the ball in space.

Did I see Thomas Jr with several drops while the QBs were throwing?

Worthy had a 1.39 10 time which is insane. He’s not making it out of the top 15. Ruggs and Ross jumped up way high after their combine so I don’t see why it would be different for Worthy.

I could see Worthy being the 4th WR taken after the top 3.

Perhaps Brian Thomas falls to the mid 20’s for us to trade up after the 2 Texas WR’s go ahead of him. That would be crazy

So much no. You want MVS, go draft Walker.

You want more of a DeVonta Smith, draft Franklin.

Edit... even then, Walker might be a bad comp because of height but the drops and the speed stand out

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Franklin was really bad today...

So the tape doesn't matter? ROFL

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He seems nice but he's not Worthy.

Two things KC would greatly benefit from when drafting a WR more than anything else, and that is catch the ball and be where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be there. They will get schemed open.

I love PFF's big board but they're off here...

Worthy is rated 66th overall and there are 13 receivers rated higher than him. His grades are super mid.(So needless to say he's a very polarizing player.) I'm curious to see how far he rises.

To be frank that's ridiculous. Troy's better imo.

Franklin could be the MVS replacement.

Worthy could be the gadget / tiny slot update of Mecole.

Yea Worthy is ours!!

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Well I mean, when you're picking #32 every year, you kinda have to hang your hat on SOMETHING. I think Reid figures if you give him a kid with an elite trait he can figure something out for him.

As for Worthy, just a cursory glance at highlight reels shows that in addition to the blinding speed, he tracks the ball really well. How many more TDs would KC have scored if MVS or Hardman simply tracked the ball and caught all of those bombs?

I mean, that's significant.

If we spend a 1st round pick on Worthy I will immediately turn off my television.

What does that even mean?

I think it means one of the prospective draftees just beat the shit outta their girl.

If we trade up and take him do you punch your tv like a cowboys fan?


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If it came down to it, I would willingly suck a dick to avoid us drafting Ladd McConkey.

Troy has better hands, I don't doubt that. He's not the game breaker Worthy is though.

No, because it's an OLED.



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He's alot more than just a speed merchant, but it just makes him so much more dangerous. You can literally throw bombs and bubble screens all day to this guy and he'll produce... but this shows why people have no clue when it comes to Worthy...

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Question to the Worthy fans. With teams playing two high vs KC for the last three years and the offense functioning with guys like Juju, Rice and Kelce feasting underneath. What exactly would Worthy bring to the table? Hardman and MVS have been with us and their speed hasn't been a huge weapon on a regular basis so what would be different with Worthy?

Even if the Chiefs stay at 32 and he falls to them?

I don't think he's worth a 1st or a 2nd.


Would feel like another

CEH
Mecole Hardman
Skyy Moore

draft pick.

Hardman and MVS are inconsistent players. Worthy can do what Hill did. Did he not still produce at a high level when teams started taking away the bombs?

:rolleyes:


That's what they thought about Mecole.

McKonkey will be a better player in the NFL than Worthy. If Franklin and Mitchell are gone, he should be the Chiefs pick.

lol. Hardman couldn't hold a candle to Worthy at any point in his career. It's not even a comparison. Hardman is the definition of straight-line speed and lack of route-running acumen. Worthy is on an entirely different level in every category. Your love affair wasn't even the best receiver on his own team and this guy is the reason for it. You gotta stop being blinded and simply watch the actual tape man. Just actually watch it because this shit is tiring and horrendous.

You can like one without shitting on the other with terrible takes.

The scouts prefer Adonai.

Worthy is the flavor of the month of the Twitter spread sheet nerds who will downgrade him on their boards if he gets drafted after Adonai because "draft capital".

Even if Worthy can't run great routes now, remember, Tyreek Hill was a RB when we drafted him.

It’s gonna be LIT when we hear about a couple of them throwing with Pat.

I was a big fan of Devante Smith and that's who this kid reminds me of. Worthy doesn't have nearly as good of hands nor does he the pristine routes like Devante but Devante can't run anywhere close to a 4.21 either.

He's put up average numbers playing for a team that bulldozes their opponents every week. Do we really want to be drafting a WR that plays second or third fiddle to a TE not named Kelce?

Welllll after our pick the draft is over. So turning off the TV before bed is normal.

At 20 years old I assume he would fill out more and without directly talking to them we have no clue about their football IQ/Characters some of the guys shitting on worthy probably have some horrible takes in pretty much every player thread we have no one here has hit on all their picks either so I will defer to the guys with more inside info . Nobody we kick will make everyone happy and knowing this place there will be a meltdown no matter who we pick but the more MM hates on Worthy the more I hope we take him.

Devante Smith much better route runner and had elite hands.

Playing style similar to HOF Marvin Harrison but smaller.

So I don't see this comp at all.

Let Mahomes throw to both Adonai and little Worthy and see what he thinks.



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Neither will be there when we draft so it’s not like it will matter.

Nobody can say that with confidence.

This WR class is amazing and the depth is top notch. They can't all go in the 1st round. If they do, then Brian Thomas Jr. might be sitting there.

Worthy is elite at tracking the ball, and makes a lot of great catches. And he takes a lot of big hits and gets back up.

Just draft the HOF WR of this class at 32 and we good.

Ya there are always surprises even if 6-7 guys draft before us with a couple of reaches that probably gives us great value at potentially another position of need and I’m fine waiting in the second for WR sounds like the drop off isn’t that after the 5-6 guys .

How many picks do we have ? Can we afford to move up , I think we already age up a pick from next years draft already

For sure. There will be a good WR available at 64. Not necessarily saying they should just sit and wait for one to fall, but there's no need to force yourself into one at 32.

Worthy is the flavor of the month?

Worthy had a mid-2nd to mid-1st grade a while ago ago. You know what grade Adonai had up until a couple months ago? About the 4th-5th round. You know why? Because Adonai isn't polished and he's wildly inconsistent. He had 3 games to write home about in 2023. Kansas. Kansas State. Oklahoma State. He got a couple of big plays on Alabama with broken coverage assignments but outside of those they shut him down, just like every other team all season long. Take those 3 games away and he had 31 receptions for 446 yards in 11 games. Take away Worthy's best 3 games and he had 50 receptions for 676 yards in 11 games. So 3 catches for 40 yards in most games versus 5 catches for 60 yards in most games. That's a pretty significant discrepancy.

But you know what I acknowledge? That Adonai has the chance to develop into a really good NFL WR. He has a ways to go, and I don't know if he has enough the minute he steps on a field to warrant a 1st round pick, but he's easily a 2nd round pick that you can take a shot on just like a George Pickens or an Alec Pierce. He's more in line with those guys than any guys you've referenced at any point that I can recall. And that is 100% fine. If he does develop fully into his potential, you have a really great WR. And if you decide you need to take him in 1, then that's okay too. I wouldn't bitch. It's like the conundrum with the kid GB took, Watson. He wasn't a 1st rounder, he just wasn't ready to be a big time player right away. But they took him super early... close enough to our pick... with the expectation they could develop the flaws.

When Worthy steps onto an NFL field, teams have to immediately respect his ability to house it on any play. They have to respect his ability to snap off whip routes. They have to respect his ability to get deep and track the football. That's alot more than you have to currently respect with Adonai and it's why college teams put their best CBs on Worthy and rolled coverages over the top while leaving Adonai one-on-one against their #2. It's reality. And that's not a 3rd round pedigree. I don't care what way you want to spout off on that. Worthy is as good as both Jordan Addison and Zay Flowers were as prospects last year but he's way faster. His route variation and ability to snap routes are every bit on par with those kids. His hands are at least on par with Flowers. And he's the fastest player ever recorded at he combine to boot. Addison was 5'11' 173. Worthy is 5'11" 165. Addison just put up 70/911/10. The **** if Worthy isn't a 1st round prospect.

Crow, it's pointless man. He's not willing to have an honest discussion.

Lmao at the people who wouldn't want Xavier Worthy. 4.25 speed with elite ball tracking ability paired with one of the biggest arms the league has ever seen. This dude is a faster Desean Jackson.

Then why would he be drafted later?

Screw waiting at 32. I really want to move up for Brian Thomas Jr.

But, seeing Mitchell's numbers today, and after watching his Georgia tape, I would move a few spots for him as well.

I really want to have the 5 years of control on the receiver we draft.