Cmon man, you know he's setting up the punter!!

I was on the Sanchez wagon.

FML. I can sure pick the winners.

60% of the time it works every time

Drafturbator redemption of sorts.....

You can't beat yourself up over that. You have no idea how things would have turned out had he played here. He could have sucked, he could have been awesome.

A long time ago I posted a Bill Belichick quote from one of Michael Holley's books on the Patriots. Belichick never chastised his scouting department for "missing" on a guy in the draft - either someone that they weren't high on who played well elsewhere, or someone they were high on, that sucked elsewhere.

His reasoning?

Coaching, roster and scheme matter.

Just because Player X - who they liked - failed in City Y, it doesn't follow that he would fail with the Patriots.

These are national sports media guys. They sound just like us.

Alex Smith isn't fooling anyone. EVERYBODY knows what his shtick is, and everybody mocks him for it, because it's a cowardly and ineffective way to play football. And when they're on you about your CAREER, that's when they laugh about every little misstep you take.

**** this guy. He's making an utter ****ing mockery of this team.

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I'm sure Sanchez would have been terrific under Haley. Pioli built a roster full of studs.

"Yet another sport Alex Smith sucks at."

"Is he throwing a frisbee?"

LMAO..............

"Yet another sport Alex Smith sucks at"

I mean, it's Bill Plaschke and seriously, **** Bill Plaschke, but still....ouch.

LMAO

a day doesn't = far longer

ROFL

Sanchez has a better playoff record than Smith in a shorter total career and with similar stats.

It is what it is.

You mean the compliment you paid my takes just a few posts back, or the compliment you paid by requesting friends... thats your killshot?

See? even now, when you're completely outmatched and missing your spots even worse than Smiff... its impossible for you to just deal with it

With that, good luck o arrogant one

No

Time and Time I have seen it. Alex is not going to go against the coach. The guy is too much by the book. The guy drove down the field against top D in denver and beat them when he needed to.

Reid is too damn conservative at times and relies almost on his defense if the game is within a score or if the team is leading. Alex is not a bad QB, I know people say he missed out on big throws but the Oline did a pretty horrible job all game long in letting a play develop. On one of the plays where hill was wide open it was because there was pressure from left side and alex was already trying to run towards the right and never had his feet set for a deep throw.

You can blame andy for wasting so much damn time on that one drive. They literally wasted good 2-3 minutes on the last drive after they got to like the 40 yard line. I have no idea why they were running the ball when they were driving the ball so well. They had to score quick and then get the ball back. It just shows that they can get in rythem but I think Reid just likes to kill clock. It just blows my mind by this guy still cant get clock management right.

Just rewatched the highlights 8 minutes left at the 38 yard line and 7 at the 26 yard line. 5 mins at the 1 yard line. That right there is the game. They should have been hurry up and get in the end zone before 4 mins mark. On top they wasted a timeout and didn't have a play ready for 4th down. That is the game right there. You don't take your sweet time trying to get in the end zone, when you may have to score twice. I think they kept trying to run it in the endzone and failed.

and why o why is Justin Houston ever in coverage against Antonio Brown. He was in the position a few times. Common now!

I agree about Reid

The same can be said about Alex he is way to conservative

The even bigger issue is Alex or really anyone on the offense not often do they make the play to WIN the game. We saw guys on defense do it all year. You can't say that about the offense and that starts with Alex he is the leader of the offense

He literally drove down the field to get us a TD and then scored a 2 point conversion. Went on the road to Denver and stole one the game that gave us the upper hand in winning the division. And he pulls off a thriller in week 1 against SD. Hit a key first down in ATL to seal the game.

Yet somehow he didn't make any plays to win games....

Ok, guy.

Sure. Starts with the QB. Could imagine that the #1 overall LT could block some 40 year old pass rusher... maybe the top 3 TE hang onto a deep pass along the right seam.

Nope. Everyone takes turns screwing up at the critical moment. :deevee:

Bingo. PFF just did an eval of his season and criticized Fisher for his stupid blunders in pass Pro. He definitely excels in run blocking, I'll give him that.

I didn't say he never did I said not often

Besides Denver what other game did he the opener and that's about it

And I'm not limiting it to just Alex but it starts with him he's the QB

isn't this just another way of saying, " I don't care if dudes block or catch the ball. He's the QB, and will take the heat for my disappointment!"

?

No it's saying it starts with the QB


The QB is the leader of the offensive unit on the field the leader should always be the first to take the blame.

Not once did I say it's all on the QB just it starts with him

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Sounds promising to me. Who cares if Nick "filler" Foles plays or not? Both he and Smith are garbage and if Andy wants to continue playing in the landfill until he and Dorsey find a QB prospect, I say let fat boy continue to wallow in his delusion.
It WILL however be interesting to see how things unfold in 2017, as a greater portion of the fan base is on to Smith now, and the weekly "I need to fix that/it's on me" cop-out by Reid will carry about as much water as a thimble with the True Believers when the Chiefs miss the playoffs.
If nothing else, high entertainment awaits!

I know I've been asked to stop being a douchebag but I just have to say that Dag is hands down the biggest tool to post around here these last few months.

Consider that a formal Diagnosis from Dr. TigerUppercut

Thats the point. Alex won't go against the book. Why do you think he does well in those situations because he is probably adjusting the plays on line and Reid is probably calling a hurry up game. Who knows.

He can lead a team just fine. Too many times in that game the momentum was shifted towards Steelers. The drop was kelce was big, that was on the money throw. That changes the game probably. Then even after that he coverts 3rd and 20 after a bone headed penalty and then almost converts 3rd and 4 to keep the drive moving, but hey guess what someone couldn't hold on to the short pass that hit him in the stomach. Late in the game, moving the ball so well, the guy is making plays and players refuse to hold on to the ball.

You can only go after alex so much. I don't think at any point this game was lost because of him. At too many crucial points in the game your play makers have to make those easy catches. That drive could have changed the game. They had so much going on that drive..

Feels like someone but butter on their gloves and that fumble by ware was just horrible.. I was like common man!

No Alex is not Elite. But you can definitely win with him. Chiefs just decided not to catch the ball in that game thats what happened.

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The 1st is coming up, chump. You got my rent check?

Mother**** you and your diagnosis, "Dr".
Every time your boy Smith serves up a turd sandwich, I just smile and think about what a moron you are, and how absolutely, positively correct both Clay and I have been about your idiotic man-crush.
I can't say I'm surprised that you are so heavily attracted to a loser, though.
Birds of a feather and what-not.

It's all over anyways.

Andy is too busy 69'ing chili dogs to focus on the qb situation.

Applies so perfectly to you and Claynus.

Terrible people.. terrible fans. Just so shameful that you can't even see the shame. Perfect wretched couple, you are.

ROFL

That's an ugly, ugly picture.

The "terrible fan" is the idiot who willfully and willingly pimps a sub-par piece of human waste on the rest of the fan base, in the name of a personal preference, knowing full well that said piece of shit is a liability instead of an asset.

Or in this case, a mill stone around the neck of an offense and team that is absolutely primed to make a serious run.

But hey; don't let that stand in the way of your man-crush, sweetie! :drool:

which one of us actually watched and wanted KC to win? and which of us is not gleeful that they didn't win it all?

hmmmm..... :hmmm: ... think about how far you have fallen.

This is why Andy/Dorsey make millions and you don't.

He's a terrible piece of scum. Join date of 2016 and in the other thread he's knobbing all the old timers even tho he wasn't around when they were. Thus, he's a giant tool.

I'm not at all saying that we "lost because of Alex"

Just that it's not often that we win because of him or ANYONE on the offense for that matter.

I defended him a lot over the years it was one thing when we were giving him Bowe and a bunch of no names to throw the ball to. But we have given him weapons now and the offense still hasn't produced.

Those guys are also accountable of course but the guy who touches the ball on every snap will always get the start of the blame. And right now he hasn't done anything to change that the offense is still the weak point

He has been around.. as other names. He is just like Claynus.. multi-banned mult... can't stay away. LOSER

( Sweet Daddy Hate, ROR, etc... same loser )

Dag and Clay are two of the best posters on here. In comparison, you're a joke. You literally switched teams in order to keep rooting for the most mediocre quarterback imaginable.

My dear, sweet morons...

How I wish I could say that I am sorry that your game managing clown show failed.

But I am not.

Yes, here we are, 4 years later. Four long years of listening to every imaginable excuse under the sun made for this under-achieving clown. Four long years of listening to his transplanted, idiotic, San Francisco Queen Club belittle and harass lifelong fans of the Chiefs franchise in order to make themselves feel good about a loser of a player whom their former team was smart enough to dump like hot-garbage in to the lap of a coach and franchise desperate enough to take him in.
I saw your trash for what it was on day one, and I stand behind that initial assessment, now fully vindicated.
And Tigger, you idiotic ****-face; I have been posting at this board since 2008. And I've been banned a thousand times because I will NOT tow the Chiefs company line. A company line that has landed us continuous pieces of garbagey filth like your dear, precious Alex.
I've spent actual face-time with people on this board you insolent, little ****. I was here before you, and I'll be here long after you are gone.
Which, by my reckoning, should be just about the time that Chiefs finally cut bait with your game-managing boy-toy.

In the interim, I will enjoy watching you fall further and further in to the abyss of failure, dragged down to the murky depths by your noodle-armed savior.

I remember when Cassel left. I made a b-line directly to the Vikings board so that I could continue to follow his career, while also signing up with the Falcons to keep eyes on Scott Pio-

Oh wait, no I didn't.

Because I'm not a ****ing loser interested in the careers of ****ing losers.

Imagine that.

In any event, thank you Go C. You're a fine and welcome addition to the discussion at CP, and the brutal honesty of your takes on your own team show a level of maturity and reason that these two Alexsexuals could not begin to grasp. What a grand day it will be when Alex and all of his toxic remnant are swept away and cast in to the fiery furnace of forgotten FAIL.

Amen.

You "wanted KC to win"?

My ass.

You wanted your pathetic, trash-heap QB to be justified.

And you lost.

Imagine that? A legitimate, NFL coach in Harbaugh was right, and you were so very wrong. Who could have seen it coming?

LMAO

You are a drug-addled moron, but not even you could believe this drivel.

For one thing, the QB's success greatly affects the team success. For another, you are a pathetic Claynus sycophant without a unique or genuine thought your own. How utterly sad. Ask and answer the ONLY question that matters...

Did you want the Chiefs to win games? or did I?

enough said. You are worth the exact same as SD, DEN. and OAK fans.. nothing. Worse.. is that YOU.. masquerade here as a KC fan.. and worse than that.. someone that has power actually LETS you.. as a multi-banned mult.

SHAME

You followed a shitty QB to a new team. You deserted your old team.

You're a fan?

No, you're a flake.

Hopefully in the future, both the Chiefs and their fans will think twice before letting another round of flaky sycophants in to their midst. It would be for the best.

Shit, in this case, the QB's success was defined ENTIRELY by the team's success. Watching the Chiefs drag your sorry, dog-assed QB to victory more often than not is a telling damnation for just how pitiful and dependent Smith is.
That loser couldn't put a gunnysack of dicks on his back and and carry it, much less an NFL team.
You and Tigger are sickening bottom-feeders.

Eh. Lots of coaches and GMs have failed in the NFL making millions. Don't you think the Colts GM would have kept his job if he was so smart? Yet he made millions.


Andy/Dorsey outsmart themselves just like Pissoli did with Matt Cassel.

I would rather order the shit burger, fry ,Pepsi all day every day those 2 chodes M and M pimp than watch another year of Alex and the Alexsexuals

How many opening drives did we get this year that went for a touchdown?



It's kinda like the year WRs not getting a touchdown pass until the very last game.

Without the trickery plays this team would never get into a rhythm to move the sticks and actually matriculate the ball down the field.


Needs 8 yards for first down throws a 6 yarder that the guy gets immediately taken down.


Just so much maddening stuff.

The Chiefs are my team and always have been. this 2016 season was one of the top 4 seasons in terms of legitimate chance to go to Super Bowl.

Smith was QB of an excellent team that beat other top contenders.

I have confidence in Alex Smith and I have confidence that 2017 Chiefs can contend for a Super Bowl depending on roster changes and health.

If you don't have confidence in the Chiefs and blame Alex Smith for your lack of confidence the better choice for your mental health is to stop paying attention and STFU.

Of course, one reason why scrubs who never could play any level of football worth a sh*t, spend their free time criticizing a guy who wins games is too make themselves feel bigger than they are.

That Pittsburgh game ended with me thinking that it should have been 18-18 with the Chiefs kicking off and that when the ref made a bad call, the Chiefs D needed to get the stop and get the ball back so that the Chiefs would drive for a winning FG attempt.

If that happens, I am pretty sure that Alex Smith has a much better game against the Patriots than Big Ben whose ass is kissed by the same people who pile on Alex Smith.

Alex Smith had a better game against the Patriots D last year than Big Ben did this year and everybody on offense was injured except for Kelce.

That's a nice fantasy you've constructed for yourself.

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Again, why does playing football at the shitty high school or college level (I highly doubt anybody on here has ever been good enough to get drafted or worked out by professionals) mean you have more of a right to assess a football team over others?

I played football in high school for two years. It was fun. Then I had other things I wanted to do with my days. I still liked football and still liked watching the game. Why does is my opinion more valuable than somebody who loves watching football but never played a down of it? Why is my opinion less valuable than somebody who played 4 years of high school football and even a little bit of college for Skunk Butt State?

Seriously. Even if the Chiefs had tied the game, the Steelers would have gotten the ball back and marched right down the field, just like they had all goddamn day, and kicked the winning FG as time expired. They would have probably been aided by a horseshit PI call or two, and maybe some blatant uncalled holds, but that's how it would have gone down.

The league got their ben brady game and it sucked. I couldn't have been happier.

Hard to argue this one

Do you really want to win the Super Bowl? Because it's fans like you that hold this franchise back because you don't hold the coach/GM/Owner accountable for their shortcomings. The quarterback is that shortcoming. It's fans that accept mediocrity at the quarterback play for the last ****ing almost going on 50 years now since our last Super Bowl HOLY SHIT BALLS.

Why should any of us have confidence in Alex Smith? Because he almost beat a playoff team that got it's ass kicked in the AFCC? The Alex Smith that is 2-6 in playoffs his 12 year career?

You're also going tell me to stop paying attention and STFU all for wanting the Chiefs to do something different for a change that just might work in order to win a Super Bowl?


I'm adamant because I care about this team I care about the players like Will Shields that played his entire career in a Chiefs uniform but because we never had consistency with quarterback never got the chance to play in the Super Bowl. Now look at Tamba Hali Derrick Johnson and Dustin Colquitt and others that have nothing to show for extending their contracts yet they gave Kansas City their blood and sweat. These guys deserve better fans deserve better and that's on this franchise not doing things that give the Chiefs best window of opportunity to win a Super Bowl and that's with a talent quarterback you pick from the draft.

I didn't have to play college football to recognize that Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Alex Smith even though Alex Smith was taken 1.1


People enjoy watching winners and when you lose in the playoffs you become losers.

We got little to no value out of Houston, Charles, and Maclin which was 30+ million against the books this season. All of those players were in the top pay bracket at their position.

The Running backs gave us half the TD production of the previous season

Our run defense was ranked near the bottom.

Despite being legitimate contenders this year, somehow it's Smith's fault we didn't get to the big game. And no one wants to give Smith credit for delivering the rock to Kelce who became the most productive TE this year.

We got 15 passing TDs out of our $17 million dollar QB. Hard to pass up that value.

It's all the more reason to move on from Smith obviously he doesn't make his teammates any better because that's what elite quarterbacks do.

The offense never gets in a rhythm to get things going and a lot of that falls directly at Alex Smith feet to orchestrate or sustain drives. Need 8 yards for a first down he passes 6 yards and the WR gets tackled. That's not moving the chains.

We aren't going get any better with Alex Smith.

If Big Rape were given the same offensive weapons KC has given Smith, that game would have been a blow-out.
Chiefs D did their job, didn't allow a TD.
Chiefs offense was pure dog shit.

Damon Huard had 11 TD with 1 int from the bench after Trent went down to finish the season.


That's not saying much for Alex

#2 in the AFC isn't an improvement from the previous years? Are you going to deny that we played one of the toughest schedules too?

And if you want an elite QB, please list those in this league who are 'elite'. What are the odds we hit on an "elite" QB and he's ready to play like one from day one. Those players are extremely difficult to find. Yet somehow you believe we'll find one that can learn the playbook immediately?

Remember, Smith played without a legitimate #1 receiver this season and had to throw to an inexperienced rookie for a good part of the season. Yet, his total TD production was identical to 2015 and that's against tougher competition.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

There are bigger problems to address such as the RB unit that went from 6th in 2015 to 17th this season.

After reading all of this, what I feel mostly is sad. I am past the anger phase and no amount of ifs, ands or buts is going to change anything. As fans, I'm not really sure what we can do other than speak with our wallets and not support the NFL or the Chiefs. Of course, there is seemingly an unending supply of rabid fans that would love to have an NFL franchise in their city. Hunt could just move the team somewhere else.

Like a lot of things in this world, sometimes life just isn't fair. It's entertainment and a business. This has turned into the same as discussing politics or religion; everyone gets upset and has to be right when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I would like a different head coach and quarterback. Evidently, the Chiefs don't really seem to care what I want. I am just going to accept that the Chiefs aren't going to get the same attention as NE, DEN, LV (Vegas, really?), PIT, IND in the AFC from the media.

It simply isn't worth the energy to be upset of something so MEANINGLESS. The Royals winning the world series was exciting however I still get to go to work each day, pay my taxes and live my life. Nothing changed by me saying Hey, The Royals won the WS in 2015. Whoop Dee Doo.

He had Kielce you goddamn asshole.

He's a better receiving threat than most have

#2 in the AFC because Carr got hurt.

To put things into perspective...new England's RB unit went from dead last to 12th this season. You don't think that's helped their offense or Tom Brady get better looks? QB rating 102-> 112

Carolina's RBs averaged 30 less yards a game this season from a year ago...and look what happened to Cam's pass productivity. QB rating 99 -> 75

Falcons jumped from 19th to 5th this season in rushing yards. Matt Ryan's QB rating 89-> 117


Every good football coach knows it starts on the ground. And then from there everything begins to open up. Does anyone honestly think the Steelers could have won 9 in a row without Leveon Bell? The dude averaged over 150 yards/game in those games.

Chiefs top 3 non-QB rushers last year: 1,401 yards on 303 carries

Chiefs top 3 non-QB rushers this year: 1,481 yards on 326 carries

You lie like a dog.

Didn't win the SB because Charles got hurt. Two can play that game.

Spencer Ware
2015: 5.6ypc , 6 TD's on 72 carries
2016: 4.3ypc, 3 TD's on 216 carries


Apparently there are people who don't see this as a problem? GTFO. Spencer Ware was 5x more likely to score a TD per carry in 2015 than this year. Shocking.

I want to develop an elite quarterback we select from the draft preferably from the first round but doesn't have to be if the guy is coachable with talent and a winning persona about him. I don't think it would happen first couple of years but with progression even I expect hardship or growing pains to get there but I can be patient and enjoy watching a baby qb grow into a man. I probably can't even explain it to you. You wouldn't understand the difference.

You are stuck on retread same past the Chiefs have failed with. I want a resurgence.

Sure do. Teams were stacking the box on him. Why you ask ? Because they had no fear of your Boo, Alex, going downfield on them.

ROFL

You don't even begin to know anything

Ding ding ding

Yep, because having Charles would have made Smith pull his head out of his ass and actually play competent football. Sure thing.

Cherry picked.

He had a lot more carries, of course his YPC went down.

If you need every RB to hold a HOF type YPC in order for your offense to be productive, you're gonna be disappointed.

Look at the whole data set.

The biggest disparity in our rushing game was Smith's lack of running.

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God you ****ing kill me


We have Andy Reid you nincompoop.

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Andy Reid hates the run.

So you have to have a quarterback that can play at a high level throwing the ball 45 times a game. Alex Smith is not that quarterback. How Andy Reid cannot see this makes me question him being a quarterback guru.

His total tds were identical 2016 to 2015 if you count rushing tds in 2016 and leave them out in 2015.

Otherwise they are not identical.

They are literally the two worst posters here. Dagnabit/sweetdaddyhate/etc Is desperately trying to fill Clay's trolling shoes but failing miserably. If they were both gone for good this place would be much better off. Of course you are a Chargers fan, so you like discord on a Chiefs board. But at least our team didn't MOVE TO ANOTHER CITY.

The Chiefs were top 10 in run yards in 2013-2015. So you're making this assumption that teams didn't stack the box against Jamaal Charles because he wasn't as good as Ware?

ROFL

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