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Saul is going to make money, but not great money. This office in BB is proof. |
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If no, my guess is that somewhere during the pendency of the case, Chuck dies and Hamlin takes over as lead counsel thus forcing Jimmy off the case. The whole 'prequel' side of this is a little unsettling because you see that Jimmy's really a pretty decent guy with a bit of a shyster streak to him and in the end, absolutely none of this is going to end well for him. |
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I think it's far more likely that Chuck ends up institutionalized than dead. The ending of the episode this week further drove home the psychosomatic nature of his illness, and since he knows he was fine before Jimmy said something to him, it's likely that it will further reinforce the inconsistency of his illness to himself, lumping self-doubt on top of psychosis.
Also, using his printing code will likely be used as an excuse from cashing Chuck out, as HHM can say that he was capable of working, as evidenced by the code usage. Thus their pittance of a pay-off will be seen as justifiable because Chuck "could" work, but chose not to. So, Chuck ends up 1) institutionalized and 2) without any remuneration from the firm he built. On top of that, Jimmy will lose the right to use his name, as foreshadowed earlier this season, and based on what he's seen, there's not really much of a reason not to become a criminal lawyer, because where does being upstanding get you? |
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Therefore, they can bill for it, screwing over McGill. |
It looks like Hamas beat me to it.
Good work. |
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Hope Saul finds a way to screw over HHM hard next year. |
There's definitely a problem with the timeline on this show and with BB. This show is set sometime in the mid to late 90's and BB in the late 00's however Mike's granddaughter is basically the same age. Sucks, but I guess there was no way around it.
Edit: I see now that BCS takes place in 2002, 6 years before Breaking Bad which closes the gap a bit but still can't hide the fact that she hadn't really aged at all. They should've made her an infant in BCS |
Finally caught up. This show is freaking awesome. Far exceeding my expectations.
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The show is great as a stand alone, IMO. There is quite a bit left yet to mine before they need to go there. |
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Watching Gus face off against a pre-stroke Hector Salamanca would have BB fans lubing up across the country. |
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1 - BB is damn near hallowed ground. don't **** with it! 2 - I thought they'd expand/exploit Sauls humorous side....make it some stupid comedy never been so happy to be wrong |
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Spoiler!
It really would get incredibly nasty but that's kinda why I think it won't happen. It's the kind of shit that could/should hijack that show and suddenly it becomes an actual legal drama instead of a character study that happens to involve a lawyer. Obviously that isn't the direction they want to go with this show. The cleaner out is to simply have Chuck die and his estate go to charity or something. At that point Jimmy wouldn't get the substantial buyout that Chuck is due via any kind of inheritance. He couldn't stand up to HHM because even if he has the chops, he doesn't have the resources. And HHM would have an easy avenue to substituting Hamlin as counsel (who could then force out Jimmy or buy him out cheap). Then again, these guys are way better writers than me so it's seems likely that they'd avoid writing themselves into a corner. |
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Yes, they could bill on it, but only for the time that Chuck actually spends. Moreover, that wouldn't come at the expense of Jimmy, provided that Jimmy is also working on it. Hell, who knows what his arrangement is with his clients but in the case of atty fee liens, they're distributed pro-rata. Well why wouldn't Chuck just fudge his numbers? Say he did 1/3 of the work. Even if he's billing at 3 times the rate, the split would be 50/50 of the fees earned and Jimmy'd still get a nice piece. Co-Counsel arrangements exist all the time. That scenario shouldn't have any impact on Jimmy - who it would screw over is Chuck. There has to be something more exotic than that to really blow Jimmy out of the water, unless the writers just play fast and loose with how those fee arrangements/buyouts are structured. |
Jimmy's pretty lawyer friend.....man....she gonna die. I just know it! and I'm thinking THAT is what creates Saul. pushes him out of the good guy box.
I'm thinking the nursing home lawyers hire a hit man or something and that somehow someway she gets offed....maybe by accident.....maybe to try and scare Jimmy. we already know they are crooked as shit. they are perfectly fine with robbing old people. so how far will they go to protect themselves and their cash cow? how bad ARE THEY? well if this is in the BB universe so......yikes. and just maybe....in the midst of this scenario.....Tuco comes back on the scene.... |
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they are perfectly fine defending the pieces of shit who THEY KNOW are robbing old people. |
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It's funny, but the legal system relies on the guiltiest of the guilty getting representation as well, otherwise the system will just turn into a gulag where the prosecutors become the judge. There's a major MAJOR leap from 'they'll defend and crooked old folks home' to 'they'll !@#$ing kill people'. Perhaps it's because I don't have the BB background, but it sure seems like that's a step removed from the fairly grounded reality they've created in BCS to this point. |
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I kid, I kid. :D |
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I think it is highly unlikely that Gilligan would create a universe wherein a crooked vet could introduce a guy who is a few weeks off a train to the biggest meth kingpin in the American Southwest upon a single mention.
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This is probably the best show on TV IMO and I hope it goes 5-6 seasons like BB. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them wrap it up in 4 though. |
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Last episode was the best one so far. Saul's $20M dream just died when Chuck went outside. Course, what did they think by asking to go to trial? Chuck can't leave the house. Can't even go to court via Skype.
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I don't think Saul ever met Fring in BB. I'm not sure he even knew how heavily Mike was working for Gus. He just new Mike as an effective Private Investigator. It was only as Walter started stirring up things that Mike's split loyalties, or employers, became known.
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i would be interesting to see how Mike gets involved with Fring.. like how deep does mike go for that? really interesting
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Also, Chuck going outside did not kill the dream. Jimmy seeing Chuck triggered Chuck's meta-awareness of his conjured condition. Chuck's issue is one of perception. |
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Chuck has a phobia of electromagnetism that stems from his perception of its presence, not it actually being there, as indicated by the doctor turning on the hospital bed. It isn't an issue of hypersensitivity; also, given what we've seen in flashbacks, it is obvious that Jimmy and Chuck A) were not close (given their conversation in Chicago) and B) that Jimmy was nothing other than responsible, working his way through law school and passing the bar while also working in the mail room of HHM. Given that, how could Jimmy have caused Chuck's condition? It appears far more likely that Chuck works in a high stress job and likely suffered some form of stress-induced psychotic break that manifests itself as a fear of electromagnetism. |
They emphasized the copy code scene a bit too much for my tastes. I'd have liked that foreshadowing to be a bit more subtle.
HHM can't use copy machines for personal use? /not a lawyer. |
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Westlaw is an online court opinion publication service like Lexus/Nexus, that provides certified accurate, formatted court written opinions, and law review articles, and breaks them down by subject, jurisdiction, holding, subsequent citations, etc. Back then, searching was usually free, but downloading for insertion into briefs or printing costs by jurisdiction and length. Nowadays most firms have a blanket monthly license tailored to their needs [ie, state courts where they do business, federal courts, major law reviews, and periodicals in their practice area], but usually still bill out to clients on the assumption/client agreement that longer cases take longer to review. |
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It does not spoil anything at all. |
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I'm trying to remember back to how the software worked back then, but I believe each search prompted you for a 'client/matter' number and a password unique to the attorney doing the search. There might have even been a field where you could note the nature of the research being done There were also 'client/matter' codes for general research or continuing education, but you definitely had to specify why you were using those, because it was both an expense the firm ate and evidence of non-billable time spent at work. So a line on the Westlaw invoice at the end of the month might look like 100.151 - In re Whatever Case it is This Week Charles McGill 100 pages - Federal Register, vol. xx , pp yy-zz $276.86 And that would go directly to the office manager for the firm paying the bills for Charles McGill's password. |
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So without his own private Westlaw account (which Jimmy wouldn't have had), he had no way to get simple access to those documents, let alone print them off. This pre-dates the ability to just google search and pull up any case you need. Now, what doesn't make any sense is that he's in Albuquerque. UNM has a law school there and the law library will have a public access westlaw account he could have used and paid per page. Moreover, they'll have every Southwest Reporter he could have ever wanted in hard copy - he could've just pulled the cases from the hard copy off the shelf and photocopied them. Those reporter sets come with full shepardizers that will link to other related cases as well. He's not that far out of law school; he'll still remember how to do that manually - especially since the books were still in common use back then. Nothing about what he did made sense there. It was a bit of a deus ex machina from the writers and a little bit lazy, IMO. Jimmy's not dumb - he knew enough about Chuck's partnership agreement to know that he was walking a thin line there. He'd have just waited a night, gone to the UNM Law Library and gotten all the cases/statutes he was after without risking getting sideways with HHM. EDIT: Looks like Baby Lee got to some of that already. Still, he had a far better option available to him. |
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Holy crap, I know some of you know way more about this than the rest, but fer cryin' out loud, use some willing suspension of disbelief. It's a TV show.
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Good example: Walt is a chemistry wizard, but can't figure out how to synthesize methylamine when it is, literally, a problem in an Organic Chem textbook. Shit, I can synthesize methylamine. |
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The methylamine was just a precursor needed for the manufacture of methamphetamine. All methylamine has to be synthesized. Pretty much every organic product you come in contact with on a daily basis is synthesized through an industrial process. Purity, toxicity, and cost are the biggest issues in organic synthesis. There are a few different processes I know of (I'm sure there are several others) by which you can produce a primary amine, like methylamine: reductive amination and Gabriel Amine Synthesis. For someone as supposedly gifted as Walt to be unaware of how to perform reductive amination in a controlled environment (he didn't need to worry about it with Gus, but he did elsewhere) was conflict for the sake of conflict in the plot. |
The preview showed Jimmy's Girlfriend Kim go into Hamlins office. We know she wants to make partner so somehow she back stabs Jimmy and the fees end up with Hamlin and she ends up a Partner. My guess is that she testifies that Chuck is incompetent in court based on the hospital visit so that Harry can take the case. Harry settles so it doesn't go to court for a fat fee.
This either drives Chuck to death or the looney bin, ends Jimmy's relationship with Kim and turns Jimmy into Saul. Somewhere along the line he will change his business plan from playing bingo to placing adds at bus stops that say Better Call Saul. I don't like the prequel in that we know the ending. I will sit through the worse shows just to see how the writer ends the story. |
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It seemed to make so much sense, that I joking stated a spoiler was required. Apologies. |
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Jesse and Walt would have either had to have stolen the chemicals required to synthesize methylamine, or found a way to purchase the industrial quantities of said chemicals without attracting unwelcome attention. In addition, this would have added a step in their overall responsibilities, and there would have been the risk that the quality of the methylamine would not have been up to the standard to the product they received from Lydia or the tanker. At least to me, it seemed like the long term solution was finding a way to have pre-made methylamine on hand, rather than adding a costly and somewhat risky step to their overall process. |
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Purchasing the precursor chemicals in smaller amounts would have neither raised any red flags, led to future shortages, or necessitated a great train robbery. |
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Ammonia in a methanol solvent is what you would need (at least, it'd be the easiest). Both chemicals are available. Also, if we watch the show, we're supposed to believe that methylamine is tough to come by, but that Walt has no problem procuring phenylacetone for his P2P cook. However, phenylacetone is also a controlled precursor. So, either Walt is able to procure one Schedule I precursor but not another, or he can synthesize phenylacetone, but not methylamine. Honestly, they probably did it so the show wasn't a how-to on meth-manufacture and for dramatic license. |
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Though, from the article I read (still looking for it), the problems Walt had obtaining methylamine wasn't plot bending enough to warrant too much criticism toward the writers. |
Your points about BB making some ingredients hard to come by and others not mentioned - I have no argument at all - you are correct that they do not ring true.
But all Nitrogen bearing compounds are tracked to some extent by the govt. The simplest, ammonia, can be used by the Walts or the Timothy McVeys. While readily available, they don't just sell it in bulk to anyone. |
It seems pretty clear to me that HHM is going to join in on the case because of Chuck not being allowed to do big cases without them. This will obviously cause resentment from Saul and possibly conflict with the lady friend (name?) but I don't think this will lead to any big epiphany for Saul to become Saul.
If anything maybe HHM uses this as an excuse to get rid of Chuck and that makes Saul start to dip his toes in the muddy end. |
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Gilligan does a great job so I expect a great show however it ends, or begins. |
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Not being a dick, just stating the facts. |
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I mean, it'd be pretty anticlimactic if the end of the show was like "then Breaking Bad happened, and Saul spent the rest of his life managing a Cinnabon. The End." |
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Breaking Bad showed future scenes at the beginning of season and filled in the blanks as the show went on often.
Stuffed animal scene, skateboard scene in the pool, etc. It creates a lot of mystery. The Cinnabon scene is similar. |
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Great episode.
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1) TREVOR MOTHER****IN' PHILLIPS.
Greatest. Cameo. Ever. 2) What a shit-sucking scumbag of a **** Chuck turned out to be. He certainly spoons well with Howard. And to be too big of a coward to tell Jimmy, making Howard play the heavy...gat damn. Here's the thing: in the end Jimmy may have turned back into Slippin' Jimmy, but I don't think it's due to his nature. Rather, he's like an abused child or spouse, who, because they've always been told they're shit and will never amount to anything, make choices that reinforce their own lowly self-worth. What a bastardicious shit****. Jimmy should rent out enough generators to power Woodstock and surround Chuck's house with Van De Graaf machines |
I loved how they kept teasing us in Mike's scenes by starting out with the characters approaching with views of their feet. I kept getting excited and nervous that it was Gus coming.
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Outstanding turning Chuck heel. Hamlin portrayed as the Big bad asshole then BAM the reveal of Chuck holding those cards. Very well done.
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You can call this the H-H-M. Everyone was wondering who the other partner was? Well, who knows more about that organization than me, brother?… Let me tell you something. I made that law firm a monster. I made people rich up there. I made the people that ran that firm rich up there. And when it all came to pass, the name Chuck McGill, the man Chuck McGill, got bigger than the whole law firm. If it wasn't for Chuck McGill, Howard Hamlin would be selling meat out of a truck in Minneapolis. If it wasn't for Chuck McGill, slippin' Jimmy would be doing 3-5 upstate in Illinois. I was litigating class action lawsuits when they were pumping gas into their cars to get to high school. So the way it is now, brother, with Chuck McGill and Hamlin Hamlin McGill, me and the new blood by my side, whatcha gonna do when HHM runs wild on you? |
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