Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9390887)

No I just don't think Geno is the greatest QB prospect ever.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9390886)

Makes multiple reads almost every play, pro style experience with a fantastic coach who has developed him very well, makes the best decisions of any QB in this class, is very accurate in the short passes and he has the best deep ball of any QB in this class.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9390907)

WTF?

You are ****ing nuts dude.

I like Nassib as well, but he does struggle with his accuracy, goes to shit a lot when he's got to force a throw and his deep ball isn't anywhere close to guys like Smith, Bray, Manuel or Sorensen.

You bitched at Geno like crazy after the Pinstripe Bowl...did you happen to watch Nassib in that as well? Same weather conditions and he was going against the worst pass defense in college football. He stunk.

Here he is against a decent defense:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WhgDOOq3hDY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9390889)

I'd take Geno over anyone whose come out in this century with the notable exception of Andrew Luck.

I think he's that good with that much of a ceiling. His ability to hit guys in stride deep while being covered is insane. I've never seen a guy do it with the regularity that Geno has done in his college career. As well, he's got an uncanny pocket presence and his release is damn near perfect. Add to that, he's a noted film room junkie.

Yeah, I think he's that good. I think he's got all the tools to be elite at the next level and with the hiring of Reid and having a running back like Charles and a young, talented offensive line, he's going to be put into a position to be successful sooner rather than later. It's the perfect storm so to speak and the Cheifs finally have the chance at a guy who has the ceiling and potential.

And everyone around here knows I'm a trenches type of guy. I don't get overly excited about QB's because most really aren't that good. I don't want them taking a QB just to take a QB. But Geno is different.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9390925)

Ryan Nassib Career Stats:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...84/ryan-nassib


Geno Smith Career Stats:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...025/geno-smith


Smith has 21 career interceptions to 98 career TD passes, Nassib has 28 career interceptions to 70 career TD passes.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9390925)

Ryan Nassib Career Stats:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...84/ryan-nassib


Geno Smith Career Stats:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...025/geno-smith


Smith has 21 career interceptions to 98 career TD passes, Nassib has 28 career interceptions to 70 career TD passes.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9390935)

The spread helps QB's put up huge numbers, plus he has some guys named Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey to throw to. I bet that has nothing to do with it though.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9390941)

So, who's making this play, the QB or the receiver?:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_as...513/genoo8.gif

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9390935)

The spread helps QB's put up huge numbers, plus he has some guys named Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey to throw to. I bet that has nothing to do with it though.

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9390953)

Every D1 quarterback should be able to hit a receiver who is behind the defender, when there is no pressure whatsever.

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9390973)

yeah... I really think we need to draft geno smith. it's really the only choice.

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9390973)

yeah... I really think we need to draft geno smith. it's really the only choice.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9390865)

Nassib for starters.

And I would like to see who you'd take Geno over since you said he's one of the best prospects in the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9390890)

And rest assured...nothing i say here can POSSIBLY be as stupid as this far-fetched thread is...
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9391298)

Really? Farfetched?!

If the Chiefs actually do pick up someone other than a QB with that 1st pick would you be man enough to come back and quote yourself and call yourself stupid?

Originally Posted by munkey (Post 9389739)

Spot on...let the raiders draft smith... He's a project..never took a snap in the NFL much less participated in the combine. I seriously don't get the Geno/love from everyone here...it's actually kinda sad...it's like theirs going to be a mass suicide if he's not taken...kinda weird..

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9391315)

you certainly won't do it yourself, will you?

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9391375)

No I won't.

Because I did not claim anything with stupid rigid certainty here. My thread has a big IF attached to it. SDW's statement was rigid and unbending and in the process he managed to call me stupid. I think rigid "black or white" statement are the ones that are stupid. Not the ones that consider all possible alternatives.

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9391361)

dumb premise. Dumb thread. Made readable ONLY by further discussion of awesome chocolate penii. Thx!
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9391426)

Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
Nassib and/or Glennon should be available at the top of the 2nd. At least one of them.

I haven't gone back through the thread Frankie to see if you accepted. Sig bet for the until the season starts on this?

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9391443)

I will laugh at someone pissing a 1st away on Nassib

O, you either take a guy at 1-1 or you don't take one at all. It's that simple. Trading back into the 1st for the 4th or 5th option makes absolutely ZERO sense when we could go ahead and draft the best guy AND get a starting caliber player with our 2nd rounder.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9390889)

I'd take Geno over anyone whose come out in this century with the notable exception of Andrew Luck.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391449)

Yeah, pretty much.


If we do in fact re sign Albert, no one other than a QB makes sense at 1.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9391450)

What?

You'd take Smith over Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton and RGIII?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391378)

So the statements that don't put you on one side of the fence or the other, so when said event occurs you can't be wrong or right, right?

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9391426)

Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
Nassib and/or Glennon should be available at the top of the 2nd. At least one of them.

I haven't gone back through the thread Frankie to see if you accepted. Sig bet for the until the season starts on this?

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9391472)

@TambaHali91

Matt Cassell haven't had a good quarterback coach since Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels. we know what he did when that chemistry was there.

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9391472)

@TambaHali91

Matt Cassell haven't had a good quarterback coach since Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels. we know what he did when that chemistry was there.

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 9390950)

a pass cant get much prettier than that.

I was sold on geno last season actually. i thought maybe he would come out and with all the hype between the other qbs that geno may have slipped to the second. Im glad that we control our own destiny with it this time around.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9391465)

Yep. All day long.

At the same stage, Smith is a more accurate and accomplished passer than any of these guys.



Not really. I think he's that good or, at least, has that much in terms of potential. I've watched him a ton. He's got all the tools, experience, size, arm strength, work ethic, etc.

As well, you are living in a revisionist, hindsight world a bit.

Eli wasn't the end all be all and really benefitted from the family name more than anything. As well, up until that first Super Bowl/Playoff run, there were the rumors of him being a bust. Rivers hasn't done jack shit. Very accurate college passer (that KU/NCST bowl game was one of the finest college QB performances I've ever seen), but he's a horrible red zone QB and is most likely on the downward slide. SD fans want him gone. Newton was a freak, but a horribly inaccurate passer. Rogers had questions about his accuracy and decision making. Rothlisberger was a smaller school guy who lacked athleticism. Plus he's a stupid raper. Griffin was a third rounder up until the last quarter of his final season where he won the Heisman and hit the combine. And I still don't like his game, especially considering his size. He's not thickly muscled like Vick or huge like Steve Young. When he's sitting on the bench due to injury, all those draft picks given up don't look so good.



NFL has him as the fifth rated player. Chiefs have him as the seventh. And, IMO, there isn't a guy in this draft that has the potential/ceiling Geno does for their respective positions.



Wait until the end of this month after the combine. This is nothing.

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9391484)

Every professional QB should be able to make that throw. The WR has to be able to get enough distance to make the catch though.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9391481)

If that's real, I'm gonna poop on a midget

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9390941)

So, who's making this play, the QB or the receiver?:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_as...513/genoo8.gif

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391290)

RunKc is an anyone but Geno fan. He was all about Wilson, then he had a bad senior bowl week or game depending on who you listen too, then he was on Glennon, now it's to Nassib.


Nassib, the Qb for Syracuse, the team that had to take the ball out of his hands more in the second half and make him a game manager to be successful later in the year.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9391450)

What?

You'd take Smith over Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton and RGIII?

I'm sorry but you're ****ing insane.

A guy that's rated somewhere around the 15-30th best football player in the 2013 draft?

The hyperbole surrounding Smith in this forum has reached an all-time high.

:facepalm:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9391537)

I love Wilson and Nassib. And your second paragraph is a fluke. I've seen absolutely no evidence of it.

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9391552)

went with Luke, a LT is next to QB as most important player on Offense.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391553)

Its funny, it's like anytime someone on here says something positive about Geno, RunKC's blood boils just a little bit more. He really leads the anyone but geno clan.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9391557)

The problem is we already have one, even if he needs a new contract.

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9391571)

maybe Reid plans to move Albert to Guard.

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9391571)

maybe Reid plans to move Albert to Guard.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9391581)

Why did we draft Jeff Allen in the 2nd last year again?

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9391571)

maybe Reid plans to move Albert to Guard.

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9391472)

@TambaHali91

Matt Cassell haven't had a good quarterback coach since Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels. we know what he did when that chemistry was there.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9391473)

Where I stand is not for covering my ass. It's the fact. I can't believe how much Black/White absolute thinking is going on among the posters here. Frankly with all due respect, I have always found that method of inflexible thinking useless and thus stupid. Here, as well as in real life.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9391452)

Even if they DON'T sign Albert, LT makes no sense. Like was said earlier, Allen was a damn good LT in college and it would be worth giving him a crack at the spot rather than pissing away a first on Jekyll. QB or bust.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9391603)

Tebow was a damn good QB in college. It's not as simple as that.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391553)

Its funny, it's like anytime someone on here says something positive about Geno, RunKC's blood boils just a little bit more. He really leads the anyone but geno clan.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9391566)

And anytime someone says something bad about Geno you turn into eeyore and say we should just sign Alex Smith because no QB is worth a first.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9391609)

Huge irony given the response this thread and any post contemplating the thought of taking someone other than Geno gets.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9391608)

What the... I don't even ROFL

And??? Allen hasn't had enough of a chance to compare him to that sack of shit that plays a TOTALLY different position.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391613)

Why are you afraid of taking a qb early?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9391611)

Sure when someone suggests we take the fifth best qb in this class which is supposedly a weak qb class an take a lt at one, doing what the franchise has always done, I tend to get aggravated.



Still haven't figured out your geno hate but I'll get there

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9390769)

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1bfbf75e.jpg

THIS IS NOT A GENO SMITH THREAD. THERE IS A HUNDRED OF THEM IN THIS FORUM. GO TO THEM FOR THIS SHIT!

THIS IS ABOUT THE OTHER NAMES MOST OFTEN MENTIONED AND A SCENARIO NONE OF US HAVE A SAY IN. GROW UP!!!! ALL I WANT IS TO GET AN IDEA FOR WHO THE MAJORITY OF YOU MIGHT PREFER IF THE CHIEFS (GOD FORBID) DO NOT PICK GENO SMITH AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT AND IF SOME OF YOU SURVIVE THE CORONARY IF THEY DON'T!

I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT A GENO SMITH THREAD. JUST VOTE IN THE POLL OR SHUT THE **** UP ALREADY!

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9391625)

The position has nothing to do with the indisputable truth that being damn good in college is not an automatic ticket to being successful in the NFL.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9391633)

I don't hate him. I just think the questions are justified. Locks onto first read all the time, throws into double coverage by far more than any QB in the draft, not as great of a downfield thrower as people claim and his antics bother me.

I do like him more than Barkley and Glennon though.

Wilson, Nassib, Geno. That's my preference.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9391603)

Tebow was a damn good QB in college. It's not as simple as that.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9391639)

Good. Then we are agreed it would be a waste to take Jekyll then.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9391642)

TeBow was a damn good football player that played the QB position.

Big difference.