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Just saw that UCLA lost to Cal Poly last night. Wow

I've booked my flight/hotel to Phoenix. The KSU football cats better win on Saturday.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9153510)

Just saw that UCLA lost to Cal Poly last night. Wow

Yes. In basketball.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9153510)

Just saw that UCLA lost to Cal Poly last night. Wow

ROFL

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

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SEC rout of Notre Dame far from guaranteed
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 3:53 PM EST

Let's say this up front: The Southeastern Conference has earned its towering superiority complex.

The smugness is based on fact, the arrogance grounded in truth. The proof is in the hardware, and six consecutive crystal footballs don't lie. It is the best college football conference in the land.

Manti Te'o and the Irish will face either Alabama or Georgia in the Jan. 7 BCS title game. (AP)But occasionally arrogance leads to blindness, or at least severe myopia. And for all the SEC elitists guaranteeing a blowout by whoever wins its league against Notre Dame in the BCS championship game, I'm here to offer an eye test.

Look at the facts, get over the regional bias and acknowledge that someone outside of Dixie might actually be good at football.

My friend Clay Travis, who runs the excellent SEC blog, "Outkick the Coverage," was the voice of SEC arrogance Sunday morning on Twitter. Quoth Clay: "Notre Dame will be destroyed by either Alabama or Georgia. Seventh best team in SEC. At best."

Let me repeat that I'm a fan of Clay's and enjoy his work, but this is ridiculous. Notre Dame may indeed lose the national title game, but I don't foresee a blowout and an Irish victory would not be an outlandish outcome (especially if the opponent is Georgia).

And anyone who believes Notre Dame would be the seventh-best team in the SEC needs to get out more.

The gist of this argument is that the Irish could not have played anywhere near the schedule of an SEC team. Unfortunately, it's completely false. Here's the reality, stacking all 12 games on the Irish ledger alongside Alabama's and Georgia's and using the Sagarin Ratings as a measuring stick:

Best opponent played: Notre Dame hosted Stanford (eighth in Sagarin), Alabama hosted Texas A&M (seventh), Georgia played Florida (fourth) at a neutral site. The Irish and Bulldogs both won close games. The Crimson Tide lost at home. Most impressive of the three: Georgia.

Second-best opponent: Notre Dame visited Oklahoma (ninth). Alabama visited LSU (11th). Georgia visited South Carolina (10th). The Irish won by 17 points, the Tide won by four in the final minute, the Bulldogs lost by four touchdowns. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Third-best opponent: Notre Dame played USC (16th) on the road, never trailed and won by nine. Alabama played Michigan (20th) at a neutral site, never trailed and won by 27. Georgia hosted Vanderbilt (29th) and won by 45. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Fourth-best opponent: Notre Dame played Michigan (20th) at home and won by a touchdown. Alabama played Mississippi (33rd) on the road and won by 19. Georgia hosted Mississippi (33rd) and won by 27. All three won. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Fifth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted BYU (37th) and won by three. Alabama hosted Mississippi State (36th) and won by 31. Georgia visited Missouri (43rd) and won by 21. All three won. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Sixth-best opponent: Notre Dame visited Michigan State (39th) and won by 17. Alabama visited Missouri (43rd) and won by 32. Georgia visited Tennessee (54th) and won by seven. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Seventh-best opponent: Notre Dame played Miami (52nd) on a neutral field and won by 38. Alabama visited Tennessee (54th) and won by 31. Georgia hosted Georgia Tech (63rd) and won by 32. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eighth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Purdue (62nd) and won by three. Alabama visited Arkansas (65th) and won by 49. Georgia visited Auburn (84th) and won by 38. Most impressive of the three: Alabama.

Ninth-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Pittsburgh (66th) and won by three in triple overtime. Alabama hosted Western Kentucky (82nd) and won by 35. Georgia visited Kentucky (92nd) and won by five. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Tenth-best opponent: Notre Dame played Navy (73rd) at a neutral site and won by 40. Alabama hosted Auburn (84th) and won by 49. Georgia hosted Georgia Southern (99th) and won by 31. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eleventh-best opponent: Notre Dame hosted Wake Forest (113th) and won by 38. Alabama hosted Florida Atlantic (127th) and won by 33. Georgia hosted Florida Atlantic (127th) and won by 36. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Worst opponent: Notre Dame visited Boston College (121st) and won by 15. Alabama hosted Western Carolina (204th) and won by 49. Georgia hosted Buffalo (135th) and won by 22. Most impressive of the three: Notre Dame.

Eight times out of 12, the Irish have had the most impressive performance when assessing comparable opponents. Notre Dame is 2-0 against the Sagarin top 10, whereas Alabama is 0-1 and Georgia is 1-1. Notre Dame is 4-0 against the Sagarin top 20, whereas Alabama is 2-1 and Georgia is 1-1.

So don't say the Irish haven't been seasoned by a schedule every bit as difficult – no, more difficult – than the SEC top dogs. And they've had far fewer games where they just had to show up to win.

Five of Georgia's 11 victories are over objectively terrible opponents – teams ranked 80th or lower nationally by Sagarin. Alabama has four victories over teams ranked 80th or lower. Notre Dame only two.

A lot of people point to the Irish vulnerability against the likes of Purdue and Pittsburgh as evidence they are Not SEC Tough. But Georgia fans who white-knuckled through scary wins over Tennessee or Kentucky – two teams so disappointing they fired their coaches – know that a good team can struggle on a given Saturday. Alabama is the only one of the three to dispatch overmatched opponents without a peep of protest.

The myth perpetuated by SEC fans is that every week is such a bloodbath, nobody from outside the league could withstand the grind. Yet in the month of November, the average Sagarin rating of Georgia's opponents was 70th. After opening against Michigan, Alabama didn't play anyone in Sagarin's top 30 for the next seven games.

Notre Dame didn't go more than three straight games without playing a Sagarin top 20 team.

It's easy to say the Irish can't match up with the SEC, not as easy to prove. The ultimate proof will be on the field Jan. 7, but until then SEC fans would be wise to tone down the towering arrogance.

Notre Dame beating Oklahoma was not more impressive than Alabama beating LSU. LSU would beat Oklahoma 7 out of 10 times.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9154057)

Notre Dame beating Oklahoma was not more impressive than Alabama beating LSU. LSU would beat Oklahoma 7 out of 10 times.

He's going off of the rankings of the opponents at the time. Stupid to me....but I figured I'd post it anyways.

Kent St. could throw a nasty wrench into things.

Currently, Kent St. is ranked #17 in the BCS. On Friday they play #21 N. Illinois for the MAC Championship.

If Kent St. wins and Stanford beats UCLA in the PAC-12 Championship, they would move up to at least #16.

What does that mean?

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3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

At #16, Kent State would be ranked higher than the Big East Champion, and therefore would get an automatic BCS berth.

This would mean the Sugar Bowl would likely be Florida vs. Kent State instead of Florida vs. Oklahoma. Blech.

It's pathetic that a team who lost by 33 points to Kentucky would be in the BCS.

Florida vs. Kent State? :facepalm: Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9156344)

Florida vs. Kent State? :facepalm: Jesus Christ.

Actually, looking again the selection order would be:

January 2013 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange

So the Sugar would first take Florida for replacing Alabama or Georgia.

Then the Rose gets the Big Ten & Pac-12 Champs, the Fiesta gets the Big-XII Champ, and the Orange gets the ACC Champ.

The Fiesta would then choose Oregon.

The Sugar would likely choose the Big East Champ (Rutgers/Louisville).

The Orange would be stuck with Kent State.

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9156315)

It's pathetic that a team who lost by 33 points to Kentucky would be in the BCS.

Hell - a team that lost to 28 by Baylor may get a BCS game...

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9156344)

Florida vs. Kent State? :facepalm: Jesus Christ.

I would at least watch that game and root for Kent State.

Say a team like Oklahoma played Florida.... I would not give 2 shits about it.

At least with Kent State I could root for an underdog.

It's been fun rooting for the smaller school underdogs the last 5 years... TCU and Boise State come to mind.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9156344)

Florida vs. Kent State? :facepalm: Jesus Christ.

LMAO

Fight ,fight,for old Kent state.

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Atleast Kent State could probably beat Mizzou

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9156862)

Atleast Kent State could probably beat Mizzou

True.

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9156862)

Atleast Kent State could probably beat Mizzou

I don't know - they lost to Kentucky by 33pts.

ROFL Matt Millen is on ESPN talking about how Marquise Lee is the best player in the country and deserves the Heisman.

Some things never change.

Mark Stoops hired by Kentucky
Chris Low [ARCHIVE]

ESPN.com | November 27, 2012
Another member of the Stoops family is joining the head coaching fraternity.

Mark Stoops, who has spent the last three seasons as Florida State's defensive coordinator, agreed Tuesday to become the next head coach at Kentucky.

"I am thrilled to be named the head football coach at the University of Kentucky," Stoops said in a release. "My family and I are excited and looking forward to becoming a part of the Big Blue Nation."

Stoops, 45, replaces Joker Phillips, who was fired after guiding the Wildcats to three straight losing seasons. Kentucky went 2-10 overall this season and winless in SEC play.

"New beginnings always provide a sense of excitement," Kentucky athletic director Mitch Barnhart said. "Thats why today I'm excited for Mark Stoops and his family as they provide a new beginning for our football program, fans and players.

"Mark's passion has been evident in the way he coaches and in his love for the game of football. That passion carried over into our process and his desire to wear the blue and white. Our desire to get better defensively and continue to expand our recruiting base helped guide us to Mark. He comes from a coaching family and has been in big games and big atmospheres throughout his career."

Florida State went 10-2 this season under coach Jimbo Fisher, ranking second nationally in total defense and allowing 249.4 yards per game.

Stoops inherited a defense that ranked 108th nationally in 2009 and helped the Seminoles improve dramatically. Florida State led the ACC in seven defensive categories this season and allowed 15.1 points per game, the seventh-best mark in the country.

"I want to thank Jimbo Fisher and Florida State University for allowing me to be the defensive coordinator at Florida State," Stoops said. "It has been three of the greatest years of my life. I am grateful for the support of all Seminole fans as we focus on the ACC Championship."

"I am extremely happy for Mark and his family," Fisher said. "He has done a tremendous job for us here as a defensive coordinator and he is a vital part of our staff. I always say you want the people who work for you to advance and reach their goals and aspirations, and I couldn't be happier. He has done a super job for us, and this opportunity is well deserved."

Before his stint with the Seminoles, Stoops was the defensive coordinator at Arizona from 2004 to 2009 under brother Mike Stoops, who was ousted as the Wildcats' head coach during the 2011 season. Their older brother, Bob Stoops, is the head coach at Oklahoma.