I'm pretty sure that was a body double.

I'd look it up but I'm at work.

That may be true, but she's gotten naked in other movies she's done. All of Nucky's other GFs have flashed some. The chick that Nelson knocked up and the actress chick that got blown up; Jimmy's mom that runs the whorehouse, Nelson's new wifey, the prosecutor chick, Jimmy's lesbo wife, The slashed face prostitute that Jimmy was hanging out with; Owen's first GF -the Thompson's maid-, The chick that was choking the gangster, there's been of bunch of boobage in this series.

ratt

I don't think Doyle took it upon himself. Nucky told him to. After Nucky got off the phone with Rothstein when Rothstein offered to help for a stake in the distillery, he said something about taking the bait. I took that to mean he had Doyle make the call and act like he was doing it on his own.

OK! I didn't even think about that. So, HE is Bugsy Siegel. Cool.

I'm glad Rosettie is dead. He drove me nuts. I didn't like him at all.

Margaret will be back. Nucky needs a love interest and family.

Yep. You are right. Nucky must have already planned it. We just didn't see that happen. I guess it was implied, but I missed it until I watched it a second time.

I loved the final episode. Total gangster. The mask hides a bad ass.:D

He has to go to work for Nucky. I know its TV but they are sure taking a lot of liberties with history. Especially Lucky being mad at Rothstein. No way Rothstein screwed over Lucky. Just a few facts.

• Lucky was with Masseria's gang as a triggerman. Not a part of some Jewish gang.
• When Rothstein goes into bootlegging in the early 20's Lucky goes with him as his right hand man. Within 4-5 years Lucky was making $10-$20 million in the mid 20's.
• When Rothstein is killed over a gambling bet, Lucky goes back to Masseria gang.
• Lucky cordinated a take over from Masseria with his "
  young Turks". Bugsy Segal pulls the trigger that put the first bullet in Masseria.
• He takes over the gang and come up with the idea of syndicate and and the commision. He's the father of organized crime.
• He was responsbile for helping America win the war in Italy and Sicily. The government let him out of prison and he went to Italy.
• He controlled the mafia in Cuba.
• He ordered the death of Bugsy Seagal for skimming money at the casino.
• He died of a heart attack as an old man

And I have no idea why Capone would be fighting in NJ. He got all of his liquor from Canada.

It's not history and it's not fiction. I guess they call it "faction".

Anyone heard when the next season will begin?

long ass time. Fall 2013.

I'm still trying to catch up on the series. I'm on the season two finale. Just saw Jimmy have sex with.. well you know.. god dammit that was hard to watch.

That's less than a year. Not much considering how long it used to be between seasons of, say, The Sopranos or Deadwood (or how long it is between Sherlock's).

Just finished season 2 last night.. sweet baby jesus I did not see that coming. I'm not sure I like that. I thought something would have happened to nuck before jimmy.

I guess this is technically a spoiler for somebody who hasn't caught all the way up, but I was worried about how the new season would be without him, and as it turned out I don't think I ever missed him a single moment. The show kept going just fine.

Yeah sorry I shoulda have attached a spoiler notice. I assumed anyone reading the thread at this point was caught up.

A friend of mine told me the same thing about never missing him. I guess now that I think more about it it seems a fitting end for the path he's takin.

They can take liberties with history because Nucky's real last name was Johnson, not Thompson, so it is in essence, a work of fiction based on reality.

Mcnulty's really name in real like was Bob Evans.

If it has been broadcast, it's fair game.

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Can't wait. Mr. Pink kills it.

I've never watched this show before, am I missing out?

Yes.

When does it come back on? I got to go back and watch some of last season there was some serious awesome stuff in there.

Sunday Sept 8.

Weird, that this hasn't been bumped at all. Show keeps rolling along, good season so far. Renewed a week or two ago for a 5th season.

Great season so far.

Last night's episode was a bit of a bummer re:Eddie, but I like how they're developing the Nucky / Willie relationship.

Yeah good season so far. I didn't see Eddie thing coming so soon. I definitely see a arc of willie coming soon.

Goddammit eddie

I really enjoy this series, but am I the only one who misses Margaret? Halfway through the season with no sign of Kelly McDonald and no plausible plot line in place to bring her back into the picture. Her name is still listed prominently in the opening credits so I would assume she will reappear at some point. :shrug:

My guess is you are probably one of the few that miss her. I hated when she was on screen.

Love this show, but last night's episode was kind of boring.

Yes. Very much felt like a "treading water" kind of deal.

Nuckie will **** anything that moves.
And....
Steve Buschemi is a fuuuugly guy. So why do these women keep wanting to screw him?

Power, or the illusion thereof.

You wouldn't bang the chick from "Medium", Georgie?

Not to mention the chick from Lost Highway and True Romance.

Those films were made when she was hot :)

Point taken - but she's still got a few country miles on Steve Buscemi.

I hate that Irish Byrd....glad that one wanker ended up in a box.

Well ****, they killed off Harrow

Shocked we haven't had more discussion on this during the season.
...rough ending, but

He will be missed but he lost his nerve to take the shot so he had little value left on the show. He did at least save the boy on his way out though.

Really liked the way they closed it with that song...

That was good. The year was good but not as great as the first 2 seasons.

Just read that the story is going to jump ahead 7 years to 1931 for the final season.

.....and the series finale went down tonight.

Very good show overall but I felt the final season was a little flat. Season 3 was probably my favorite

Agreed.

The show lost a lot once the charismatic presence of Michael Pitt left the show.

I enjoyed this season, agree that the first 3 seasons are strongest ...

The casting of Young Nucky was particularly brilliant. And seeing the moment Nucky sold his soul was pretty powerful (especially considering the way that was set up... that Jillian was not just a random girl he brought to the commodore, but actually a girl who had stayed in his home, bonded with his wife, and received his promise of protection).

It also explains a little more about why they spent so much time with Jillian's storyline... since it was so critical to Nucky's story.

I liked the Capone capper (the scene with his son was pretty cool, and I enjoyed the headshots of Capone putting on his mask for the reporters).

It was a pretty good series finale...granted, some stuff in this show just went right over my head.

The actor who portrayed young Nucky was awesome. He did a really good job.

Where the hell did they find the young Nucky actor? My God so spot on...

yep, it was like the picked the guy and had him watch the whole series to get Buscemi's mannerisms and master gestures down. It was an excellent impersonation.

I had a feeling that kid would end up playing a significant role in Nucky's ulimate outcome.

I had him tabbed as Nucky's killer (after all, any time they've spent a season showing flashbacks of a main character as a younger person, that character has died in the finale - Jimmy, Harrow and now Nucky), but I thought he was an inside man for Murder, Inc.

I was wondering why they felt the need to go back to the Gillian story, because I was sick of her a while ago. I guess now we know. Good way of explaining how Nucky came to be what he came to be.

The young adult Nucky did a good Steve Buschemi impression, but WTF was with those teeth? They barely could fit in his mouth. They were just hilariously ridiculous. I mean, Bushemi's teeth are crooked, but they're not gargantuan-makes-Elway's-teeth-look-tiny teeth.

That's a damn shame. Pitt is phenomenally talented. He's one of those actors/actresses who can just soak up the screen/dominate the screen without making it seem like he's trying hard.

It's a damn shame for the show, too. I think Boardwalk Empire would have been a much better and more complete story had Jimmy been part of it the entire way.

Just thinking about it, there are so many interesting things they could have done with it. How cool would it have been to see Jimmy working with Lucciano and Lansky to take control of everything? Or working with Capone to try to help Nucky address Murder, Inc.

I wish they had explored the relationship between Capone and his deaf son more. Playing off the love he had for those close to him with the scenes of his awful acts. I remember the very emotional scene when Capone and his wife finally realized in their kitchen that their son is deaf. One of the most moving scenes of the entire series.

I think we all knew Nucky was gonna get it but I did not see by who. I think it was a fitting way to see the relationship of the Commodore and Gillian throughout those first seasons, and tie that in to how Nucky "made" his way.

Great show.

I liked how the scenes after the Jimmy, Richard, and Nucky show their characters.

Jimmy's last scene was him going over the wall in WWI. Jimmy never really left the war and the way it changed his personality.

Richard's last scene was him coming home unscarred. He found peace and left WWI behind him.

Nucky's last scene is his younger self finally catching a coin. It shows his character never really evolved from grasping for money.

I just did some light reading on Capone and he dealt with Syphilitic Dementia in his late 30's. I never knew you could get Dementia from Syphilis? In his early 40's he had the cognitive capacity of a 12 year old. Wow.

Interesting.

Wow. Just watched the last episode last night. I didn't realize it was the last one, so the ending was a bit of a shock. Great show.

Good points.

Most of the time, I just enjoyed the show (with the occasional horrified glance during a particularly brutal scene, like when Eli beat that guy down in his workshop). Realizing that Richard Harrow was, in fact, actually dead hit me very deeply and emotionally.

I also like how the whole cycle of terrible events that happened to characters we like all ties back to Nucky making a decision to kill his soul to win the commodore's trust and approval, which eventually kills his body, too.

Nucky gives Gilllian to the Commodore, who knocks her up. This damages Gillian irreparably.

Gillian eventually takes drunken advantage of Jimmy as an adult (probably after years of inappropriate behavior with him growing up). This damages Jimmy irreparably, leading him to go to war and come back even more of a shell.

Jimmy, because he's a shell, comes back and starts trying to find ways to "fill" or "satisfy" himself. But the one man who can pull him out of it - his true father figure, Nucky, is so pissed at the decision Jimmy made to join the army, he pushes him away. This leads to Jimmy betraying Nucky, winning, not knowing what to do from that point forward, and eventually dying.

And, finally, Jimmy's son Tommy - damaged by the death/disappearance of his father and mother, time spent under his grandmother's wing, witnessing multiple people gunned down in the brothel, the disappearance of his surrogate dad, Richard - empties the clip into Nucky.

Nice storytelling.

One final side note:
I have to wonder if Jimmy's famous line "I told you, you can't be half a gangster, Nuck..." was originally intended to be the final line of the series as he, in league with Luciano and Lansky, dealt with Nucky finally and personally. Rather than the other way around...

They did a good job with following the history timeline But Nucky was not gunned down in real life. It's fiction, but still why kill him off?

This season paled be comparison to the other seasons. Season 1 was off the charts and it went downhill from there.