I remember people saying we couldn't select Ryan at our pick if available cause we had to give Croyle a chance ROFL We have the number one pick and can have any QB we want, but they would rather wait and take the 4th or 5th ranked guy. It's disturbing and disgusts me.

Not enough neck.

No and no.

What caged monkey is throwing that $3it up on the wall?...

What are YOUR comparisons?

Because I am certain everyone will agree with those...

Oh. My. God.

Dat neck!



Where is the Tyler Wilson one...?

"I'm not brilliant by any means."

Guy sounds pretty dumb in interview, but maybe it's just the vacant expression that's always on his face. You look in his eyes and you don't see a divine spark or anything. He doesn't appear to be thinking about anything ever.

Mike Glennon has bust written all over him.

Those are some big comparisons for Bray imo. LMAO

Not Josh Looney absolutely sucks at being not josh looney

If Bray gets his shit together his ceiling is Marino, if he stays the same and ****s off he'll be Mallett.

Glennon's throwing motion and decision making isn't even close to Ryan's.

Bray has a similar motion/release point to Stafford and Cutler but hoping he's got Brees' decision making is beyond optimistic IMO.

Glennon has all the tools to be a good QB. It's his Blaine Gabbert-like nervousness in the pocket that has me worried about him.

"Mike Glennon of North Carolina St. is clearly the best quarterback at the game this year in my opinion, at least so far. Now Glennon wasn’t perfect but the positives far outweighed the negatives and he’s an easy guy to fall in love with. I think Ryan Nassib of Syracuse was better than any of the quarterbacks that I saw from the South team yesterday too."

http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...-Bowl-Blog.php

He seemed like he had a slow throwing motion to me in his bowl game but that is the only game I've watched live.

I don't hate the guy but when Geno and Wilson are still on the board, it doesn't make sense to me to take that guy.

That's true, but right now he's looking far better than Wilson at the Senior Bowl according to the tweets and NFL Network.

He seems to be the QB that will rise the most after the Senior Bowl. I think he'll be a top 10 pick.

I think he's a definite 1st rounder and it wouldn't surprise me to see him go in the top 15 given the QB needy teams.

I'll wait until Nightfyre posts his thoughts before I really examine the SR Bowl reviews.

http://media.nj.com/giants_impact/ph...bc3694fcd4.jpg:D

Barkley, Geno, Wilson and Glennon will all go top 10.

Mayock: I've been disappointed what I've seen in Glennon in person.

really? this would surprise me.

Mayock is pissed off the Glennon's agent is paying him like Kiper. He wants a raise.

Did you really just compare Bray to Mallet in a negative way?

Mallet, the guy sitting behind Tom Brady, the best quarterback to ever play the game.......

Luck would sit behind Brady, RG3 would sit in his wheelchair behind Brady, as would Geno, as would (arguably) every QB in this league.

Mallett has got all the physical tools to be something special, and he gets to hold the clipboard for the greatest QB to ever play.

Yeah, nothing about Bray and his uncertain future reminds me of how GOOD Mallet has it right now, and how GOOD Mallet might actually be going forward.

In my opinion, you basically lose all credibility as a poster when you try to compare someone in a negative fashion, to a QB of equal or greater talent, sitting on the bench behind the GOAT.

I realize you're grasping at straws, but there's about 75 QB's you can compare Bray to, that have taken a snap since Mallet was drafted, and you choose the one guy who is given the most glorious seat in the house, to negative portray the comparison?

So dumb.

No, they won't.

Mallett is a coke head reerun, and a proverbial choker too.

According to what?

His 2nd string status behind Tom Brady?

And what is so proverbial about him doing that?

His play at Arkansas, and the knowledge of him being as dumbass party boy is well known.

Ryan Mallett is a never-will-be.

ROFL

That's true, but people change. I mean, I know I was a bit of a party guy when I was in college.

Dan Marino changed. He's in the best place possible for him to learn discipline. I think he has a lot of potential after sitting on the bench for a few years.

Even if he fixed his attitude problems, nothing is going to fix his "slower than Drew Bledsoe" feet...

I don't get Chiefs fans' obsession with lost causes...

So his play in college translates 100% to the NFL? Great, lets not draft a QB and start Stanzi, he's only 3-0 in bowl games with a great career record and numbers in a very tough conference.

I think the Pats will disagree with you on that one, thus why they moved to get him.

Precisely.

Drew Bledsoe played himself into a super bowl as a starting QB with his slow feet. Mallet is WAY faster. Vinny Testaverde and his slow feet and slow everything has been in the playoffs a few times, didn't really stop him from getting there.

Point is, you'd have to be an idiot to think there is anything negative about the Mallet situation right now. Aaron Rodgers sat behind Favre and took over the reins when he was done. I believe the Pats have their guy when Brady is gone, and like any "follow up" to one of the greats, Mallet will never have the "luster" that Brady had. Won't stop that team from being a perennial playoff team. Which is more than we can say.

the only way that happens is if the Chiefs use the # 1 pick or make a trade and receive a 1st round pick in the top 10

Ryan Mallett SUCKS.

Plain and simple.

Lol not sure what you have against the guy. He's got a huge ceiling.

So did Ryan leaf

I'm not saying he is a shit QB and maybe he has all the tools to become a quality QB or even better, but as of now that's all just bullshit speculation. Which is why I find it funny you slam anyone else's take on Mallet when your only ammo is just more speculation about a guy that's accomplished as much as Stanzi in the NFL.

And ya the guys an off field red flag and I don't think anyone is going to confuse his training and study regimen with Payton Manning. I'm glad he's kept his nose clean so far, but its hardly the case that he is or should be considered a can't miss heir apparent in waiting for Brady

The guy is a choker period, the guy has million dollar talent but a 10 cent brain.

Kreig? DeBerg? Green? There are no lost QB causes. A solid veteran hand of leadership is what this team needs.

All those QBs have something in common: They never took us to the promised land. Troll.

What's with the influx of mults lately. I thought creating mults was a bannable offense? We need some enforcement. This place is getting thrashed.

Eagle fans, Blackbob, and Knowmo are most of them.

omigarrrrrrrrrrsh

Benjamin Allbright from Draftmonsters.com was on 610 reporting from the Senior Bowl, said he was concerned with how thin Glennon is, adding he would likely need to put on 15/20 lbs. He said Glennon looked good with a clean pocket, but his passes became wobbly when forced to move his feet.

That alone scares me. This is the NFL and the speed dictates intelligence and anticipation. There's already been talk that he can freeze up and get flustered if he is feeling pressure. You just can't rely on saying you're comfortable with a guy that can't create when protection breaks down. A lot of guys can look all world in 7 on 7 - which is basically the same as a clean pocket.

He's a 6-5 Brokie Croyle.

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...5xKm0Dgl-l.jpg

Don't ****ing care. He's another team's backup. Drafted, coached, and played by them, and ready to be wrapped up in a bow and sold for a profit to some dumbshit team like the Chiefs.

It's time to end that cycle. I'm sick of being the sucker who pays off another team's investment. That shit ends right now.

That's scary as shit!

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoess...scots/noid.jpg

I'm avoiding the shit out of THIS noid.

He was considered by many to be a 1st round talent. Some thought he was the best QB in the draft, like Belichick.

He's not Matt Cassel at all. LMAO

Rumors are the Browns are going to get him. I think that would be a great trade for them.

That was squashed by the Browns today.


Curious to know why you think he's changed?

People like to throw around the "Marino did it" mantra, but for 1 Marino, there are 1000 examples of guys not changing.

I didn't say he was Matt Cassel. That doesn't mean I give a rat's ass about him.

I'm still waiting for a successful backup from another team to get traded to a team as a potential franchise QB who wins Super Bowls. I've never ****ing seen that happen. And I doubt Mallett's going to change that. He's not exactly Russell Wilson with everything but size. He's got all that, but he's also a smelly shitass who freezes in the pocket.

Even Matt Schaub recently has shown that he can't be anything more than a game manager. If Houston wants to win anything REAL coming up, they should strongly consider drafting a QB that might fall to their spot in the first round. Worth the shot.

Drew Brees count? Chargers chose Rivers over him, but he wasn't exactly a back up.

Brees wasn't a trade.

Can you imagine what the haters would say if Geno was a beanpole?

Len Dawson.

Brett Favre, buddy.

Matt Hasselbeck WOULD count had he won. I will count that as a successful attempt, though. Seahawks certainly did some good things with him. That was a case of a team PAYING for another team's backup with the intent of turning him into a franchise QB.

The greatest one occurred with Brett Favre. I can't name many others, though. Two is all I got.

I'm not sure if Len Dawson was acquired by trade with the Chiefs. I don't think he was.

Shit SB winning QB's have come from everywhere. Warner was an UDFA.


However, more SB winning QB's have been drafted in the first round, than any other place combined.

Therefor, enough with the lottery.

This. Not very often a QB like Drew Brees gets on the market.

I still think Trent Green was a successful trade and QB for us. We just ****ed it up with the defense. So much talent wasted. :doh!:

Teams that draft a QB in the first round and devote all their resources in developing said guy, have the best chance at winning SB's.


Which is exactly what we are about to do.

you're right, not by trade, we picked him up off waiver

steve young, brett farve, len dawson, brady was a backup and because injury got put in the position that he ran with. Warner was a backup until green tore his acl.

Exactly what I was going to post. I suppose one could also throw Favre in there.

I think it's really smart to try to be the exception to the rule than just taking the most easily repeatable plan to it.

We're talking about teams who acquire other team's backups via trade with the intent of them being the franchise QB. Young, Brady, and Warner don't count.

well technically farve would be out too as he wasn't looked at as franchise QB to start either. He was a backup in GB for awhile. I don't think anyone really picks up a backup to be a franchise QB. I don't know much about Dawson but did he come here strictly to be #1 or to compete for #1?

Brees?

Brees was a FA after he blew out his shoulder, that wasn't a trade.

Bullshit. Wolf didn't acquire Favre for a first round pick to have him dick around as a backup.

Majkowski was actually an okay QB. He threw for 4000 yards in a season a couple of times. He just wasn't franchise QB material. The fact that it took three games for Favre to start for the Packers doesn't mean he was viewed as just some Sage Rosenfels prospect.

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NC State QB Mike Glennon looks even better today than yesterday. Top QB at Senior Bowl - hands down - in my opinion.

Well............ he looks like Napoleon Dynamite

Len Dawson was targeted by Hank Stram when he hit the open market, because Stram knew him well, and knew what his abilities were from their days as player and coach, respectively, at Perdue.

But that was an entirely different era.

There were 20 jobs then.

Yes he has an arm . I just hope hes not stupid like grbac.

Evidently, he agrees. This was one of his Halloween costumes:

http://yfrog.com/scaled/landing/741/f3itsx.jpg

Not crazy about the dude as the Chiefs potential pick, but at least he has a sense of humor.

So you compare him to Elway?

No, that's not true -- Don Majkowski suffered a season ending injury (ankle tear) and Favre was thrust into the starting QB position, finished the season very well, of course.

correct.. Yes GB gave up a first for farve but they were apparently planning on grabbing him with their first before atlanta took him. He may have been thought about as the future during the draft but once he was taken, he was still a backup in atlanta and came to GB as a backup until Majkowski got hurt. If he was brought in to be the franchise QB he would have came over and started immediately. It's been known that holmgren wasn't to high on farve cause he was a gunslinger and holmgren wanted to try to coach him up to be more of a finesse QB, but when majkowski got hurt holmgren didn't have a choice so he thru him in and the rest in history.

Yep.

That's why I quit my job and started playing powerball every week.

I figured that was a more sure-fire way to make sure I can put food on the table for my family.