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srvy 09-24-2021 07:07 PM

[QUOTE=Mennonite;15852490]I haven't watched that many episodes of The Virginian. The episodes are really long and it seems padded. I didn't really care for Big Valley or Bonanza. Maybe the problem is that all three shows focus on well-to-do families.


Yes I always hated those rich rancher series myself. Its also probably why I detested Dallas.

I read you didn't like Fleming's portrayal of Trail Boss Favor, most didn't. I read somewhere Fleming recreated the character off of the diary of an 1866 trail boss named George C. Duffield.


PS funny thing now I love John Dutton of Yellowstone (Rich Rancher)probably because his top hand is a veritable badass.

Bump 09-24-2021 07:28 PM

Once Upon A Time In The West

absolutely my favorite western film. The score, the badassness of harmonica and everything about it I loved.

Easy 6 09-24-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15852469)
I could never get into Big Valley. Even today ill switch to it to see if I was wrong about it. Ill to this day find something else the characters and stories just never hit me.


Heh, only reason I even got started on Big Valley was because of Col Steve Austin being in it… kept waiting for a Bionic Cowboy but never got one :shake:

Chief Pagan 09-24-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 15852598)
Once Upon A Time In The West

absolutely my favorite western film. The score, the badassness of harmonica and everything about it I loved.

If I had to only choose one, this would probably be it.

Unforgiven is probably my favorite Clint film, but I didn't see much attention for that much of his early stuff. The Good the Bad, and The Ugly is still a classic.

Liberty Valence and Searchers might round out my list.

srvy 09-24-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15852630)
Heh, only reason I even got started on Big Valley was because of Col Steve Austin being in it… kept waiting for a Bionic Cowboy but never got one :shake:

lol

Raiderhater 09-24-2021 08:30 PM

It’s not uncommon for me to dislike popular movies, Fight Club and The Big Lebowski are examples. In the western genre it is Once Upon A Time In The West. From the long mind-numbing opening scene on I just don’t like it.

And add Shane to that list as well. I tried re-watching that not long ago giving it a second chance, nope. Someone needed to throw that little boy in a well and walk away. “Shane! Come back, Shane! Mommy wants to have an affair with you, Shane! I want to ride bareback with you, Shane!” That kid was that film’s Kim Darby.

Kman34 09-25-2021 07:03 AM

You guys pretty much listed all the ones I like.. Is Grizzly Adams with Robert Redford considered a western? That is one I’d like to add..

Kman34 09-25-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15852898)
You guys pretty much listed all the ones I like.. Is Grizzly Adams with Robert Redford considered a western? That is one I’d like to add..

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid….Forgot that one too..

Cheater5 09-25-2021 07:26 AM

My Name is Nobody (1973) with Henry Fonda and Terrence Hill.

Mennonite 09-25-2021 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15852898)
You guys pretty much listed all the ones I like.. Is Grizzly Adams with Robert Redford considered a western? That is one I’d like to add..

You're thinking of Jeremiah Johnson, I believe. Grizzly Adams was the old tv show with Dan Haggerty. Will Geer played an old mountain man who hunted bear in Jeremiah Johnson; that's probably why you're confusing the two.

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Jeremiah Johnson was inspired by a real person:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson







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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 15852661)
It’s not uncommon for me to dislike popular movies, Fight Club and The Big Lebowski are examples. In the western genre it is Once Upon A Time In The West. From the long mind-numbing opening scene on I just don’t like it.

And add Shane to that list as well. I tried re-watching that not long ago giving it a second chance, nope. Someone needed to throw that little boy in a well and walk away. “Shane! Come back, Shane! Mommy wants to have an affair with you, Shane! I want to ride bareback with you, Shane!” That kid was that film’s Kim Darby.

I agree with you about the kid in Shane. He's annoying as hell. Jack Palance was good though.

I like the Big Lebowski. The only thing I would change about it is that I'd like to have seen the Dude get his rug back at the end. Or at least found a new one. The story should be a circle that illustrates that nothing in the Dude's life really changes. A friend dies, a baby is born. A rug is lost, a rug is found. The rug ties the story together just like it "ties the room together."


I also like Once Upon A Time In The West. Leone had a real problem with letting his movies get bloated later on, imo. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly could have been trimmed down some too, honestly.

I love the opening scene. The boringness of it is what makes it good. You see Woody Strode and Jack Elam and some other tough looking hombre waiting for...something... and the suspense begins to build. It goes on so long that you move from anticipation to wondering wtf is going on. And then the payoff: the train finally arrives - and there's no one on it! Then the train pulls out and you see Bronson and you get the classic "two too many line." And the whole thing is capped off by a split second gunfight where two well known actors (who audiences of the time could be certain would never die in an opening scene) get killed off. It looks like Bronson is dead too which should be impossible, but after the unique way the movie has began there is a moment of doubt. It really is a great scene, imo.

The ending is also very good, and Henry Fonda makes a terrific bad guy. The middle of the movie could definitely have used some trimming though. Edited to add: I really hate the soundtrack! A lot of spaghetti westerns had intrusive score. Very annoying.





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Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15852904)
My Name is Nobody (1973) with Henry Fonda and Terrence Hill.

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Kman34 09-25-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15852936)
You're thinking of Jeremiah Johnson, I believe. Grizzly Adams was the old tv show with Dan Haggerty. Will Geer played an old mountain man who hunted bear in Jeremiah Johnson; that's probably why you're confusing the two.

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Jeremiah Johnson was inspired by a real person:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver-Eating_Johnson









I agree with you about the kid in Shane. He's annoying as hell. Jack Palance was good though.

I like the Big Lebowski. The only thing I would change about it is that I'd like to have seen the Dude get his rug back at the end. Or at least found a new one. The story should be a circle that illustrates that nothing in the Dude's life really changes. A friend dies, a baby is born. A rug is lost, a rug is found. The rug ties the story together just like it "ties the room together."


I also like Once Upon A Time In The West. Leone had a real problem with letting his movies get bloated later on, imo. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly could have been trimmed down some too, honestly.

I love the opening scene. The boringness of it is what makes it good. You see Woody Strode and Jack Elam and some other tough looking hombre waiting for...something... and the suspense begins to build. It goes on so long that you move from anticipation to wondering wtf is going on. And then the payoff: the train finally arrives - and there's no one on it! Then the train pulls out and you see Bronson and you get the classic "two too many line." And the whole thing is capped off by a split second gunfight where two well known actors (who audiences of the time could be certain would never die in an opening scene) get killed off. It looks like Bronson is dead too which should be impossible, but after the unique way the movie has began there is a moment of doubt. It really is a great scene, imo.

The ending is also very good, and Henry Fonda makes a terrific bad guy. The middle of the movie could definitely have used some trimming though. Edited to add: I really hate the soundtrack! A lot of spaghetti westerns had intrusive score. Very annoying.







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Yes!! Sorry, Thats what I was thinking of...

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-25-2021 02:31 PM

Don't know if they've been mentioned yet, but two westerns I enjoy catching on TV are McKenna's Gold and Cat Ballou.

Neither are what I'd call my most favorite or "the best" (Still lean hard on The Searchers/Stagecoach/Magnificent 7), but Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou is worth the price of admission right there.

"It's a hangin' day, in Wolf City, Wyoming . . ."

Jenson71 09-25-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 15852661)
It’s not uncommon for me to dislike popular movies, Fight Club and The Big Lebowski are examples.

Might be going down a rabbit hole here, but TBL is awful.

Renegade 09-25-2021 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15852121)
Are you thinking of The Quick and the Dead (1995)? High Noon came out in 1952. There was a sequel called High Noon, Part II: The Return of Will Kane made in 1980. It starred Lee Majors and David Carradine.

You are correct, it was The Quick and The Dead

Mennonite 09-25-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 15853234)
McKenna's Gold


I have an old friend whose parents both loved that movie. They were as different as night and day and never agreed on anything. She was kind of a new age hippie type and he was much older and extremely uptight. It was one of those "How in the hell did these two ever get together?" type relationships. Years after they finally got a divorce I was over at her house watching tv with my buddy and McKenna's Gold came on and she immediately said "This is a great movie!" Mystery solved, I guess.

I kind of like to think that there entire twenty year marriage was based on their love of the haunting "Turkey Buzzard" theme song:


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