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notorious 03-02-2015 10:02 AM

We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

Rausch 03-02-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355256)
We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

This...

Mr. Laz 03-02-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11355249)
Why wouldn't he deserve it if he puts up Watt numbers?...

because it's just not the same

Apparently i am the only person on this board that thinks this.

DE >> LB

even if the sacks numbers are the same, the positional value just isn't

Watt and even Hali's position are just worth more than Houston's


let the outrage begin ..........again :shrug:

Dante84 03-02-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355256)
We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

How do we know he wasn't asking for the moon last year?

Meatloaf 03-02-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355256)
We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

I'd expect that Dorsey tried to get a deal done, but apparently (as rumored at least), Houston wanted huge dollars. Not sure this is all on Dorsey. Houston's gotta play ball too.

Just football business at this point. Ugly for the fans, but that's the deal.

Chief Roundup 03-02-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355245)
Before everyone goes ape shit, what if it turns out that he wants Watt money?

$16M a year average. Absolutely I would give it to him.
So many of you all see that $100M total number and loose the power of your brain. Did you know that $46M of Watts contract is at the end and it is not guaranteed. But after this one year Watt will be costing them between 12 and 13M against the annual cap.

Rausch 03-02-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11355265)
because it's just not the same

Apparently i am the only person on this board that thinks this.

DE >> LB

even if the sacks numbers are the same, the positional value just isn't

Watt and even Hali's position are just worth more than Houston's

Whut?

Hali is an OLB. We run a 3-4.

A 3-4 DE is NOWHERE near as valuable as a 3-4 OLB. I can't believe you're making this argument...

notorious 03-02-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84 (Post 11355267)
How do we know he wasn't asking for the moon last year?

It couldn't have been anywhere near what he is asking after a billion sack season.



Houston just came off one of the best pass rushing performances in NFL HISTORY.

notorious 03-02-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 11355268)
I'd expect that Dorsey tried to get a deal done, but apparently (as rumored at least), Houston wanted huge dollars. Not sure this is all on Dorsey. Houston's gotta play ball too.

Just football business at this point. Ugly for the fans, but that's the deal.

And this is the part that worries me the most. He might hate Kansas City and want out.



That's probably the answer nobody wants to hear.

Mr. Laz 03-02-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11355271)
Whut?

Hali is an OLB. We run a 3-4.

A 3-4 DE is NOWHERE near as valuable as a 3-4 OLB. I can't believe you're making this argument...

Hali lines up and basically plays RDE.

playing the name game doesn't change that

Rausch 03-02-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355277)
And this is the part that worries me the most. He might hate Kansas City and want out.



That's probably the answer nobody wants to hear.

He wants what he's worth.

He's not taking a penny less than he could take anywhere else (and state tax must be included in that equation.)

Chief Roundup 03-02-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355256)
We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

Because of hindsight we know that. If Houston were to have gotten injured or had a bad season then it would have been what a tool Dorsey is for signing him early.

notorious 03-02-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 11355282)
Because of hindsight we know that. If Houston were to have gotten injured or had a bad season then it would have been what a tool Dorsey is for signing him early.

Injuries happen.


We all knew that Houston is a stud. It should have been taken care of.

Rausch 03-02-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11355279)
Hali lines up and basically plays RDE.

playing the name game doesn't change that

Jimmy Graham didn't win that argument either...

Meatloaf 03-02-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11355277)
And this is the part that worries me the most. He might hate Kansas City and want out.



That's probably the answer nobody wants to hear.

Guess we have no idea if Houston wants out of KC or not. I'd expect that the guy mostly wants $$$ and would go anywhere to get it.

Actually, if he's asking for just outrageous money (and I mean outrageous), I'd probably take the two draft picks and let someone else pay said monies. The ONLY position I'd pay outrageous money to would be QB.

I can see it now, we sign Houston to outrageous $$$ and he takes an ACL in London. And why would I expect this? Because....(you know the rest). :banghead:


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