ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Life Something of a moral dilemma (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=288398)

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 12:26 AM

Are you contract security? Is it a retail store? In the mall?

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113488)
You never have a person meet their accuser.

Also, this makes no ****ing sense. The person accusing knows exactly how much they are guilty for and are therefore to most qualified person to interview.

Say I watched on our camera system and saw them steal $1000+. I know what they took, how frequently they took it, and the means by which they took it, but since I am the one accusing them I shouldn't be the one interviewing?

Any rebuttal they have, I know the answer to. Any excuse they present, I can shut down. You bet your ass, with the training I have received, I am the most qualified person to interview associates who steal from my company.

I think your beliefs in the judicial system are just a bit off.

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113513)
Are you contract security? Is it a retail store? In the mall?

You really have not one clue what loss prevention is. In all honesty, that speaks well for your character.

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:34 AM

Security is much different than loss prevention. My company decides that it is worth their investment to pay us to prevent loss to their products. I take back the lawyer comment from before.

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113505)
So you are the accuser and the person who finds out how much and who else is involved? I see no conflict there at all.

Pleas elaborate on the conflict

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113518)
Also, this makes no ****ing sense. The person accusing knows exactly how much they are guilty for and are therefore to most qualified person to interview.

Say I watched on our camera system and saw them steal $1000+. I know what they took, how frequently they took it, and the means by which they took it, but since I am the one accusing them I shouldn't be the one interviewing?

Any rebuttal they have, I know the answer to. Any excuse they present, I can shut down. You bet your ass, with the training I have received, I am the most qualified person to interview associates who steal from my company.

I think your beliefs in the judicial system are just a bit off.

No, you as the accuser should not be asking. You should report the CCTV incidents to your superior. Record the dates and times. I am sure it is backed up by a DVR somewhere. Pull the incidents from the DVR and burn them to a disc. But really, pulling them from the DVR and putting it on a disc should be handled by IT.

If it is a value that reaches felony standards of your state. You definitely should just not be asking any questions. Let your superiors decide if they want to notify law enforcement, termination, or a coming to jesus meeting with the supervisor.

Are you sure you are ready for management when you opportunity comes?

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113533)
No, you as the accuser should not be asking. You should report the CCTV incidents to your superior. Record the dates and times. I am sure it is backed up by a DVR somewhere. Pull the incidents from the DVR and burn them to a disc. But really, pulling them from the DVR and putting it on a disc should be handled by IT.

If it is a value that reaches felony standards of your state. You definitely should just not be asking any questions. Let your superiors decide if they want to notify law enforcement, termination, or a coming to jesus meeting with the supervisor.

Are you sure you are ready for management when you opportunity comes?

I am the superior with access to the DVR. your and idiot!

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113528)
Pleas elaborate on the conflict

Not to sound like an ass. But are you serious. You being the accuser interviewing the person you are accusing of doing something illegal doesn't raise any bit of conflict in your eyes?

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113539)
Not to sound like an ass. But are you serious. You being the accuser interviewing the person you are accusing of doing something illegal doesn't raise any bit of conflict in your eyes?

Not one bit, please elaborate.

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113535)
I am the superior with access to the DVR. your and idiot!

And do you have any of the files from the DVR copied to disc? And if you do why suddenly is all this unknown form of documentation coming to light?

So you are the guys superior and your boss is telling you to call him in the morning and fire him? And you have witnessed him on CCTV, backed up on DVR stealing $1000+ worth of merchandise? And you have a moral issue because you want to arrange a meeting with the guy to fire him? But you want to interview him.

BTW are you contract security?

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113550)
And do you have any of the files from the DVR copied to disc? And if you do why suddenly is all this unknown form of documentation coming to light?

So you are the guys superior and your boss is telling you to call him in the morning and fire him? And you have witnessed him on CCTV, backed up on DVR stealing $1000+ worth of merchandise? And you have a moral issue because you want to arrange a meeting with the guy to fire him? But you want to interview him.

BTW are you contract security?

Wtf are you talking about?

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113543)
Not one bit, please elaborate.

For one thing. If it is a firing. Just say we no longer need your services begining today. If they ask to discuss why. If you live in an at-will state, you don't have to discuss, ask, or answer any questions. Any footage from the DVR, as you say there is. Would be enough to squash any unemployment claims.

Sounds like you have a bit of emotion wrapped up in it already. And it even more sounds like you are trying to increase that emotion by meetings and interviews.

If it is a law enforcement issue. Law Enforcement doesn't care what you ask them. They just care what you saw on the DVR and a copy to disc. You being a loss prevention associate should know first and foremost you are not law enforcement. And any investigation of a crime that involves them. Involves them asking the questions. Not you.

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113552)
Wtf are you talking about?

I talking about the posts you have made. I am trying to put the whole story down from your perspective. Because it isn't really making a whole damn bit of sense.

Abba-Dabba 11-16-2014 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11113518)
Also, this makes no ****ing sense. The person accusing knows exactly how much they are guilty for and are therefore to most qualified person to interview.

Say I watched on our camera system and saw them steal $1000+. I know what they took, how frequently they took it, and the means by which they took it, but since I am the one accusing them I shouldn't be the one interviewing?

Any rebuttal they have, I know the answer to. Any excuse they present, I can shut down. You bet your ass, with the training I have received, I am the most qualified person to interview associates who steal from my company.

I think your beliefs in the judicial system are just a bit off.

Are you contract security or proprietary? You still have not answered that question.

mdchiefsfan 11-16-2014 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11113560)
I talking about the posts you have made. I am trying to put the whole story down from your perspective. Because it isn't really making a whole damn bit of sense.

Get a job with a company that has a loss prevention dept, steal, and it will make a whole lot more sense.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.