It's terrible that people are actually allowed to do things like that. I'm sorry to the both of you.

I have nothing positive to add to the discussion.

How do you go about breaking the police culture? Mandating college degrees would be a start. I honestly don't want people who barely graduate high school being tasked with navigating very complex situations.

Some are college grads and many are ex-military. If they were in a war zone I think it affects them. I also think certain personality-types are attracted to certain professions. So I think anger types or aggressive types could flock to this one. JMO.

Loads of em are chickenshits with a power trip.

Liability. Make them carry insurance like Doctor's do. Right now since the city, state, or county will pay any damages due to police actions there is a moral hazard in that the individual officers due not pay out of pocket for their misdeeds.

The insurance isn't a the biggest issue I do not believe.

The biggest issue is that usually there needs to be some type of administrative finding of 'misconduct' before a lawsuit would be successful.

I'm not super up on it, but most people that make the kind of money police officers do (150 G a year with benefits) actually do have a million or 3 million of 'personal liability umbrella' insurance (or something similar that would cover them) which would be enough to handle 99% of all defenses you would ever need.

But it probably rarely even has to kick in, because of the requirement for misconduct....and also because the union probably has their own insurance that defends them 1st, even if a lawsuit gets through the administrative phase

Hopefully someone more in the know can correct me if I am wrong though.

You think police officers make $150,000 a year?

WTF?

Maybe long tenured officers in high cost of living areas like NYC or LA make that much.

I guarantee you that most don't make anywhere near that.

I think you need to be looking at about 100 k less than that - 50k per year is much more realistic.

I'm not going into details, but when I was 14 3 police officers beat the shit out of me while I was handcuffed to a rail mounted to the concrete wall at their police station.

My crime? My friend and I were walking home after a movie and they busted us for being out past the 10 oclock curfew... it was 10:07.

They also kept pointing guns at me and making jokes about murdering me, burying me in a field, and how nobody would know. So I got my ass whipped and my life threatened (one of the officers kept grabbing my junk too) because I was out past curfew. Procedure for such a case was for the officers to take the kids home to their guardian, instead they took us to a police station for entertainment.

Makes my ass whipping seem pretty small time. I don't really have any words.

Courts will take the word of a police officer over demonstrable evidence. This may be the worst example. No one should have to witness such a thing.

Most police officers make between 40K and 55k per year according to all statistics available.

I have no idea where you pulled 150K per year with benefits.

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****ing shit, man. I'm so sorry to hear this.

More :(.

What power hungry douchebags.

Damn, I'm sorry to hear about this man. I'm originally from PA and no stranger to PSU. That place is pretty famous for over zealous police.

I'm thinking perhaps he's talking about Pittsburg State University in Kansas

I got beaten and sprayed back in 2004 for simply walking next door to my buddy's apt who was having a party til the police showed up due to a noise violation...they told everyone to leave which I did originally...I lived next door and was just gonna wait til they left before I headed back over. Although I left my cell phone on an end table near the front door and friends of mine were coming in town that night so I headed back over there to get it real quick in case they called so I could tell them party was broken up etc... when said cop (all 5ft 150 lbs of him) screamed and cussed me out for coming back and didn't like the fact I was "eye ****ing" him. Told him I was just getting my phone and so i grabbed my phone and turned around to leave and as I was walking out cop slammed me up against the wall and asked me if I was being a tough guy for ignoring his direct orders. (btw I had just arrived to the party right before the cops showed up cuz I had just gotten off work..so I really haven't had anything to drink yet). This was right at the doorway of the apt so it eventually got taken outside on front patio right in front of my door actually. Cop with small man syndrome was trying to throw me down to the ground and it just wasn't working and he was screaming for me to stop resisting I just kept telling him I wasn't doing anything wrong and he's the one attacking me. Well he finally swung me down to the ground by my jacket and I landed on top of him. This bitch coward of a cop starts screaming for help like a little girl and at this point he has one of my arms kind of in that chicken winged hold. I'm still on top of him because of the way he had my arm pinned to where I couldn't really move although I was trying to get up. This startled the other cops inside who came rushing outside and one immediately took out his baton and started swinging. Which didn't hurt my adrenaline at this point is pumping too much for me to really feel anything til the next morning. But then came the pepper spray from point blank range right in my eyes. That shit sucks lol. I was then handcuffed and arrested and charged for assault on LEO and resisting arrest.

Independent witness across the parking lot witnesses the whole thing and was nice enough to testify and give written statement of what she saw plus much of this was caught on one of the squad cars. Btw 5 squad cars arrived at this college party where there were maybe 20ppl. 1 out of the 5 squad cars had their dash cams on and it was the one that captured the footage which was obtained by my attorney. The police report said I dumped a beer on the officer (lies) and had reached for cops gun (lies) after I had slammed him onto the ground (lies) and because of my physical size and strength the cop was feared for his life (lies). Thank god for the independent eye witness and dash cam. Case was thrown out and I sued the police department for assault and won with a settlement. Then through some resources of mine I found out where said cop lived and I'll just leave it at that. He's no longer a cop in that police dept and ended up moving to Oklahoma as of 2006 from what I was told. Justice was ****ing served.

This was one of many police officer abuse cases in about a 3month period cops everywhere in this dept were beating up college kids because a woman cop was shot in the head during a traffic stop and she was the first woman cop to be killed on the job and the whole dept and city govt made a big fuss about it and the cops from that point for about a few months were having their way with college kids. My attorney had about 7 or 8 other cases like mine that all happened within a few weeks from another.

It's who askED you