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htismaqe 02-24-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9434976)
Three things...

1)Saying that NOW about Smith is reeruned. Maybe end up true but come on.

2)Yep, I doubt we will find a trading partner, the top of this draft RIGHT now doesn't look great.

3)Saying that there DEFINITELY won't be a QB at 34 is more reeruned than your first statement.

I'm not against Geno in any way, but I'm also not ready to go overboard reactionary about it.

1). No it isn't. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? How many more times do they have to kick you in the nuts before you start covering your balls?

2). Yep.

3). There will be QBs there. They won't be good enough to unseat Alex Smith though.. Here's to 5 more years of mediocrity.

keg in kc 02-24-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9434976)
Three things...

1)Saying that NOW about Smith is reeruned. Maybe end up true but come on.

Wake up. It's not the 1990s. Alex Smith is not the kind of quarterback you want in today's NFL. He's proven himself - over 7 years - to be a game manager in a league that - by rule (and I mean that literally) - favors gunslingers. He can't win games for you. All he can do is try not to lose them. That's a bad trade, any way you slice it. Especially when you consider the near certain fact that we're going to be throwing the ball...a lot. Alex Smith makes zero sense for a team who isn't going to be running it let's say 55% of the time. Playing second fiddle behind a strong running game is the only way he can be successful. He doesn't fit here.

(none of this has anything to do with Geno Smith. this is all about Alex Smith)
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3)Saying that there DEFINITELY won't be a QB at 34 is more reeruned than your first statement.
It's not reeruned, it's history. This QB position has been growing more and more overvalued by the league with each passing year, since the changing of the rookie pay structure in the CBA. There's nothing that would indicate that trend will cease this year, or that they'll suddenly go in the other direction and let QBs fall, not with the names that have gone in the first round in the last five years. If we're drafting someone in the 2nd, it's much more likely to be overdrafting someone like Dysert or Manual than it is to be getting Barkley.

Wilson might be a possibility, but let's be realistic about him: if he's in freefall let him stay in freefall. That one reads like a bad gamble. Which is a shame, because I had hoped there was something there.

(I don't think he falls though. I think somebody takes him in the 20s.).

Direckshun 02-24-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9435002)
3). There will be QBs there. They won't be good enough to unseat Alex Smith though.. Here's to 5 more years of mediocrity.

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NJChiefsFan 02-24-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9434778)
No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.

I think my emotional reaction to Alex Smith comes from my greatest fear, the average to decent QB. The QB that makes you year after year wonder and maybe believe he can do it the next year with a slightly better team. I don't fear shitty QBs as much, because it's clear cut that you get rid of them(save for a Pioli GM where ego is involved). So when I see Alex, I don't worry about him being shit. I worry about him selling himself just enough each year.

I get that Reid and Dorsey aren't blind, and that would be my hope if this scenario plays out, but this fan base and media group are full of idiots. Decent play from Smith may buy him time. That's why I prefer taking a chance elsewhere. I just fear the decent QB much more so than a risky boom or bust one.


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