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cdcox 04-29-2011 09:33 PM

He has a DE body, and that's where he'll play.

booger 04-29-2011 09:56 PM

like Gilberry, Bailey compares somewhat to Jarvis Green from the Pats days as an undersized end for a 34 but will have a role in the nickel. Both guys are athletic enough to play some special teams too which is rare for a DL.

Cam Sheffield had a good camp last year and if cleared from his neck inj they are wracking up some legit competition. Sheffield even played a bit inside, not a bunch but they did try him there. Same with Justin Cole except he started out inside and then shifted to outside. Studebaker is what he is but if he could help out and maybe start on the strong side as a 2 down LB until houston's pass drops become natural. I think Studebaker could compete some inside if need be too. Plus Cory Greenwood they like as a nickel backer. He and Verran Tucker were pretty damn good for rookie fa's.

It's not something that is probable but they have some versatility in the front 7 to play some hybrid sets and play Dorsey as a inside shade and do some 1 gap. Maybe even TJack. They just can't and IMO won't bulk up Dorsey for a full time NT role. He's adapted just fine and plays his role very well. He's worked too hard to lose the weight and can't carry it because of his stress fracture in his leg he has trouble with since LSU.

The new guys are green and will take some time but there some big fast tough dudes who's issues seem minor in Houston and Baldwins cases and all stuff that is coachable in all 4.

I've liked Gales as a big DE who can move but he's likely up for a battle along with OLB Pierre Walters. Gales has an outside shot at NT too, has had snaps there, but it's pretty tough for some 6-5 guys to anchor at the zero tech.

Frankie 04-29-2011 10:01 PM

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booger 04-29-2011 10:07 PM

somewhat like cam jordan the DE the saints took, they very well may try Bailey at OLB like others have said. With a good attitude and work ethic like he seems to have from those reports maybe they doubled up in the 3rd just because they didn't like other OLB prospects as much and figure they'll try with Houston and Bailey while having fallback plans for Bailey at DE. If they are just depth, pass rushers and special teamers they will still see plenty of snaps. Both seem to run better than Ayers.

Molitoth 04-29-2011 10:07 PM

Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

Bump 04-29-2011 10:10 PM

I don't know anything about him, but sounds like a good talent. Love the country strength, hard-working type aspect. Romeo will coach him up!

booger 04-29-2011 10:11 PM

CBA, contracts and the future is considered here as well. They got 2 CB's yet to pay plus Tamba. Gilberry is restricted depending on the CBA and all that BS. But say he plays for next year then becomes a UFA and has another 6-7 or more sack season and some 43 team will want him bad and it will be hard to keep him.

wazu 04-29-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 7607372)
Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

Why? I can think of nothing we needed more than a 5th Defensive End. Now if we can just do something about that gaping hole at TE.

Chiefs Pantalones 04-29-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 7607372)
Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

A lot of people said that about Hali. I think Crennel is the right DC for this guy.

wazu 04-29-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 7607377)
CBA, contracts and the future is considered here as well. They got 2 CB's yet to pay plus Tamba. Gilberry is restricted depending on the CBA and all that BS. But say he plays for next year then becomes a UFA and has another 6-7 or more sack season and some 43 team will want him bad and it will be hard to keep him.

Yes, I love to hear that even though our team salary is among the lowest in the league, we need to begin drafting players now in anticipation of all the home-grown star players we drafted and developed, but don't intend to keep.

booger 04-29-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 7607385)
Yes, I love to hear that even though our team salary is among the lowest in the league, we need to begin drafting players now in anticipation of all the home-grown star players we drafted and developed, but don't intend to keep.

I would want to keep him too but on the open market Gilberry would cash in and make more as a starter than a backup here.

point is who knows what the future holds so not only depth wise but contracts as well it never hurts.

Frankie 04-29-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 7607372)
Personally, I feel this was our weakest and least sensable pick.

AND the least sensible too.

wazu 04-29-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 7607391)
I would want to keep him too but on the open market Gilberry would cash in and make more as a starter than a backup here.

point is who knows what the future holds so not only depth wise but contracts as well it never hurts.

Bottom line is I don't care how much. Draft a ****ING NOSE TACKLE. Pay Gilberry if you need to. Keep anybody who is good until money actually becomes an issue with some kind of new salary cap that is in place. Then, okay, I can return to the days of giving a damn about keeping payroll down.

kysirsoze 04-29-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 7607397)
Bottom line is I don't care how much. Draft a ****ING NOSE TACKLE. Pay Gilberry if you need to. Keep anybody who is good until money actually becomes an issue with some kind of new salary cap that is in place. Then, okay, I can return to the days of giving a damn about keeping payroll down.

I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.

BryanBusby 04-29-2011 10:34 PM

Looking at the picks of Houston and Bailey, beyond the value, it looks like the Chiefs went after players that should be very productive in the nickel package on 3rd downs. After watching them struggle to stop Baltimore on 3rd down, this is a good idea.


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