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Andy Reid with 2nd Most Playoff Wins in NFL History (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=352456)

wallcrawler is a disease

the only coach to win 100+ with two franchises and mahomes gets all the credit LMAO

HOLY SHIT did he really compare this guy to andy reid

https://www.basketball-reference.com...karlge01c.html

mr one time NBA finals appearance is in league with the 2nd or 3rd greatest NFL coach ever? LMAO

FIRED 5 TIMES

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17414910)

wallcrawler is a disease

the only coach to win 100+ with two franchises and mahomes gets all the credit LMAO

Andy has coached 25 seasons in the NFL and has only had 3 seasons with a losing record and 18 seasons of 10+ and 15 seasons of 11+ wins. Patrick has only been the QB in 6 of those seasons. Teams very rarely win SBs without elite QB play and all of the guys considered the best HCs of all time have had HOF QBs.

Andy needed his HOF QB to take the next step.

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17414784)

Lmao. McNabb was a top 5 statistical qb during those nfc title failures and superbowl loss. He was like 3rd in yards and 4th in tds. With utter shit at wide receiver until the year TO was brought in, alongside borderline refusal to run the football. Andy carried McNabb. Ok dipshit.

I need a month long vacation for stating fact? That's about your speed.

Please, do remind me of all the championships Andy Reid was able to win before Patrick Mahomes.

You'll have an easier time finding his playoff collapses, he owns 2 of the largest in playoff history at 28 and 18 points just with KC. Don't forget that amazing performance where this alleged legendary offensive coach couldn't muster up enough offense to beat a team unable to reach the endzone.

Mahomes has played in 18 post season games and he's been neck deep in shit down 2 scores 11 times. He's 9-2 in those games.

It's pretty safe to say that Andy would have 0 rings without Mahomes. All 3 times he's win superbowls pat has had to come back from down 10.

That tends to happen when you form a habit of wasting first and second down.

That Unicorn wearing number 15 has been able to consistently overcome mistakes and missed opportunities to pull out wins on a level that no other qb in history has come close to.

In all 7 post season opportunities down one score under a minute with answer or go home stakes, Patrick is 7/7.

Brady was 5/11 for comparison.

Andy Reid pre Mahomes was the NFL equivalent to NBA coach George Karl. One of only 9 coaches to win a thousand games with no title. Never got his Michael Jordan to put him over the top.

Does anyone here honestly believe that if Mahomes is kidnapped by aliens to play in the interstellar league the week before the playoffs start, that Big Red could do what Doug Pederson did and make a title run with his backup qb?

No 15, no Superbowl win.

It is what it is. Be offended if you like.

Wallcrawler, how many SB wins does Belichick have without Tom Brady?

Actually, even better question. What is Belichicks WINNING PERCENTAGE without Tom Brady?

i have to hear from countless fans on twitter how patrick is nothing without andy and then i come here and wallcrawler compares andy to an NBA marty clone

JFC

Wallcrawler, what are Andy’s positive traits as a head coach? Since you don’t want him to leave, surely you recognize the things that make him an elite coach in this league other than, “He’s got Mahomes and is winning Super Bowls, so good enough”

The hole in the argument is Reid didn't chase a ring because Mahomes was here. Reid signed off on him when he had a veteran QB, had the balls to sit him for a year when a lot of coaches wouldn't do that, and worked to develop him into the guy he is now.

It wasn't like he was 6th round pick they got lucky on. Mahomes was a guy they spent years scouting and aggressively went after in the draft because they thought he was great. Which looks genius now because you can find plenty of mock drafts and information where people thought Mahomes was a late 1st or even 2nd round talent. So he wasn't a slam dunk #1 pick either. Heck yeah Mahomes is the difference but the reason he's in KC is because Veach and Reid identified and developed his talent better than the 31 other teams.

Every top tier Hall of Fame HC has looked completely pedestrian without a top tier QB. And if they did win without that top tier QB, it was either a total fluke and they never made it back or they had an elite defense.

Most top tier HC's flat out miss the playoffs without a great QB (some miss the playoffs even WITH a great QB), and yet Andy almost consistently made the playoffs even with McNabb and Alex Smith.

Andy maximized the amount of talent he had around him to great effect every single time. Without Mahomes, he got consistent playoff berths. With Mahomes, he has 3 SB's in 6 years. Andy is one of the greatest HC's of all time. Plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17414913)

Seriously.

If you’re gonna make that comparison at least have the decency to call him Jerry Sloan

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17414963)

He also almost made the NFC title game with Jeff Garcia one of the years McNabb was out, and then took a QB who was in prison for two years and coached him up to have the best seasons of his career.

We've seen the same thing even with Mahomes. We've won critical games over the years with Matt Moore and Chad Henne when Mahomes was out. He can coach QBs.

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17414971)

Oh yeah, forgot about this. McNabb, Vick, Garcia, Smith all having career years under Reid.

Matt Moore going blow for blow with Aaron Rodgers and winning against the 6-2 Vikings. Chad Henne stepping in for the Browns and Jaguars games in the playoffs and playing well despite looking not great in Miami.

Dude maximizes talent literally everywhere he goes. It's just facts.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17414910)

wallcrawler is a disease

the only coach to win 100+ with two franchises and mahomes gets all the credit LMAO

It's like you guys don't remember the early Andy years. This board was extremely hesitant of him bc they didn't think he could get us to a SB. And that was true of his career at that point.

People hated that Andy traded for Alex Smith
People hated that they didn't draft Geno Smith
People hated that they drafted Eric Fisher

Andy's first few years looked exactly like the Marty Chiefs. Very good team that ends up ****ing itself spectacularly in the playoffs. Andy was 1-6 in the playoffs over a 9 season stretch from 2009-2017 with the lone playoff win being over Brian ****ing Hoyer.

The frustration Andy faced was 100% justifiable at the time.

Fortunately he found his HOF QB bc that's the difference. That's why Belichick, Tomlin, Shannahan, Dungy and McCarthy have any of their accolades bc without their QB's their reputation has been total shit. It's also why Marty never got where he wanted to go.

Andy's legacy is now cemented. Previously he was a fringe first ballot HOF coach. Now he's a shoe in first ball HOF that will be on the Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches.

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Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 17414866)

That could make for a really sweet graphic.

Metric 2017 Chiefs 2024 Chiefs
Regular Season
Playoffs
Division Record
AFCW Titles
AFC Titles
Super Bowls

You’re right. I’m not going to do any legwork but off the top of my head..

Chiefs AFC Championship game appearances:
1970-2017- one
2018-2023- six

Chiefs Super Bowl appearances:
1970-2017- zero
2018-2023- four

That’s all that needs to be said lol sums it up rather nicely

It was never justifiable. Going 12-4 with Alex Smith is HOF coaching. Alex Smith was a loser.