Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9486348)

Speculation? What's the speculation?

Matt Ryan has been an underperforming NFL QB. Period. Like Matt Stafford, he hasn't been a Franchise QB. He's led them to ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, yet the GM has bent over backwards to surround him with talent.

Unless the Falcons win the Super Bowl next year (not likely), it wouldn't surprise me to see them move on to a different QB.

Why pay Matt Ryan $15 million a year when he can't win shit?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9486372)

The Falcons have allowed 30, 48, 24, 28, and 28 points in the five playoff games with Ryan at the trigger. Must be Ryan's fault they give up 32 points per game on average in the postseason even though they have scored fewer than 24 points exactly once in those five games.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9486358)

They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9486374)

So now Ryan is just some above average qb? This place cracks me up.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9486374)

So now Ryan is just some above average qb? This place cracks me up.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9486375)

Oh, stop being a dickhead.

The point is that Atlanta has sacrificed draft choice after draft choice in order to surround Matt Ryan with talent and they've got almost nothing to show for it in five seasons.

Pretty much the same as Miami since taking Jake Long.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9486381)

Do you actually think that Matt Ryan is elite?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9486379)

But if you're going to compare the draft choices of Matt Ryan to Jake Long and state that Miami "did the safe thing", Atlanta should have something to show for it, right?

Right?

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9486358)

They've also gone 14-2 twice IIRC and every one of their playoff losses have come to a SB participant (Cards, Packers, Giants, 49ers).

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9486386)

Four playoff appearances in five seasons...all ending with poor defensive showings

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9486385)

Without any reservation.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9486386)

Four playoff appearances in five seasons...all ending with poor defensive showings

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9486389)

And in winning those division titles, they've gone up against such wicked teams such as the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Bucs and the declining Saints.

The bottom line is that selecting Ryan over Jake Long wouldn't have necessarily provided different results for either team.