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gblowfish 07-21-2014 12:04 PM

If Marty can raise enough money to fly the banner, the Royals will raise ticket prices the night of the first fly over, because it's an "event" and tickets are subject to dynamic variable pricing. I hope they do it on "Salute the A's" night.

I hate that promotion with the intensity of a thousand burning suns.

Wednesday, August 13th is "A's Poster Night." Get a poster of the team that abandoned Kansas City to go to Oakland, California, then win six AL Pennants and Four World Series.

We salute them because they know how to win, and we don't.

Ya-hoo.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10757858)
Or package in a prospect with those two for Stanton? :hmmm:

DM wouldn't even finish his sentence before the Marlins' FO would hang up the phone.

Sure would like to know what, arguably, the best reliever in baseball + a legit #3 starter would bring from a contender, though...

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10757753)
No doubt that the Cerner guys have more money and they have kicked ass with Sporting, just remember that Sporting's salary for the entire team is similar to what the Royals pay Hosmer.

Their combined net worth is something like $6-7 billion dollars, minimum (Illig and Patterson are $6 billion combined, and the other guys have to be bringing SOMETHING to the table). Most of Glass's net worth is tied up in the Royals franchise (I think he's about $700 million, with $500 million of that being the Royals).

The salary is restricted by the league, but those guys have spent considerably more than their peers on everything around the team (and really understand how to create fan experience - SEC football teams are consulting with them to pick up pointers on that).

They also made big personal investments in a soccer-only stadium and complex because they understand you have to spend it to make it.

KCUnited 07-21-2014 12:19 PM

Can't get behind flying the banners. Paying someone to divert the team plane over Ukraine though...

Hootie 07-21-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10757858)
Or package in a prospect with those two for Stanton? :hmmm:

Well unfortunately Miami doesn't work because they aren't buyers...so they have absolutely no use for Shields and Holland is going to start getting really expensive.

The reason the Cards work because they are legitimately WS contenders and need a starter and MOST DEFINITELY need Greg Holland.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 07-21-2014 12:32 PM

Hootie, not seeking any limelight...and I certainly don't have the time to do this or give this like SOC.

However, the amount of requests I get to start this movement, re-start it, etc... I've long ignored for a year. This weekend's series? I figured the best thing do is to create the portal for people to donate to. If the fans don't donate enough, guess what? No banners.

Reality is the Royals haven't been to the post-season since 1985. This year's squad is just too talented to play with the volume of ups-and-downs they have. If the fans truly want a SOR movement, they'll contribute. Otherwise, this thing goes away.

Let this be a wake up call to the club.

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10757778)
Marty is a super good dude...but this just seems like an attention whore kind of thing. Trust me, I know attention whoring when I see it.


ChiTown 07-21-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10757915)
Their combined net worth is something like $6-7 billion dollars, minimum (Illig and Patterson are $6 billion combined, and the other guys have to be bringing SOMETHING to the table). Most of Glass's net worth is tied up in the Royals franchise (I think he's about $700 million, with $500 million of that being the Royals).

The salary is restricted by the league, but those guys have spent considerably more than their peers on everything around the team (and really understand how to create fan experience - SEC football teams are consulting with them to pick up pointers on that).

They also made big personal investments in a soccer-only stadium and complex because they understand you have to spend it to make it.

Thank you for that response. Perfect

ChiefsCountry 07-21-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10757915)
Their combined net worth is something like $6-7 billion dollars, minimum (Illig and Patterson are $6 billion combined, and the other guys have to be bringing SOMETHING to the table). Most of Glass's net worth is tied up in the Royals franchise (I think he's about $700 million, with $500 million of that being the Royals).

The salary is restricted by the league, but those guys have spent considerably more than their peers on everything around the team (and really understand how to create fan experience - SEC football teams are consulting with them to pick up pointers on that).

They also made big personal investments in a soccer-only stadium and complex because they understand you have to spend it to make it.

I have no problem with the Cerner Group buying the Royals at all, they would be the best for it. MLB is just a whole different beast than MLS is.

ChiTown 07-21-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10757985)
I have no problem with the Cerner Group buying the Royals at all, they would be the best for it. MLB is just a whole different beast than MLS is.

The point is that they are more than financially capable of stepping up, and they have shown that they are a VERY progressive ownership group.

Do it!

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10757928)
Well unfortunately Miami doesn't work because they aren't buyers...so they have absolutely no use for Shields and Holland is going to start getting really expensive.

The reason the Cards work because they are legitimately WS contenders and need a starter and MOST DEFINITELY need Greg Holland.

Davis is owed $7M next year, which is an asinine amount for a set-up guy. Perfectly reasonable for a good closer, though.

Ironically, moving Davis to the closer role and potentially getting an elite prospect for Shields and Holland would offer a way for the Royals to still win "The Trade" in a way that I don't think anyone envisioned.

ChiTown 07-21-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 10757956)
Hootie, not seeking any limelight...and I certainly don't have the time to do this or give this like SOC.

However, the amount of requests I get to start this movement, re-start it, etc... I've long ignored for a year. This weekend's series? I figured the best thing do is to create the portal for people to donate to. If the fans don't donate enough, guess what? No banners.

Reality is the Royals haven't been to the post-season since 1985. This year's squad is just too talented to play with the volume of ups-and-downs they have. If the fans truly want a SOR movement, they'll contribute. Otherwise, this thing goes away.

Let this be a wake up call to the club.

I love you Marty, but this is a bad proposition. The Chiefs play once a week to large viewing audiences. The Royals play 5-6 times per week in front of a small viewership. Apples and Buick's. The effect will hit ESPN and local channels as a small also ran blurb and have no effect. And, to repeat what Deez stated, Pioli deserved every shot he got from the fans and more. Dayton isn't a bad guy, he just sucks as a GM.

Unsmooth-Moment 07-21-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10758002)
Davis is owed $7M next year, which is an asinine amount for a set-up guy. Perfectly reasonable for a good closer, though.

Ironically, moving Davis to the closer role and potentially getting an elite prospect for Shields and Holland would offer a way for the Royals to still win "The Trade" in a way that I don't think anyone envisioned.

I certainly think the Royals should be at least keeping the option open. Trading Shields/Holland now could benefit the team and make this do or die season less die next season.

Hootie 07-21-2014 01:05 PM

That's why I'm all for trading Holland. And honestly, Wade Davis' reliever stuff is even filthier than Holland's and I didn't even think that was possible (Sans Kimbrel).

Davis is a steal in the closer's role for his two team option years...Holland will be more expensive.

Some contender would overpay for a Shields/Holland combo...and honestly speaking...if our bats get hot it still wouldn't necessarily cripple our run for that last wild card spot.

Sure-Oz 07-21-2014 01:28 PM

I'll be thrilled when gmdm I'd fired. Problem is glass doesn't seem to be in a rush

petegz28 07-21-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10758078)
I'll be thrilled when gmdm I'd fired. Problem is glass doesn't seem to be in a rush

If he is fired it won't be until after the season. While GMDM has made some bade decisions, he has also made some good ones. This team is perfectly capable of performing at a higher level than they are. I think most of the problem is the way they are allowed to be managed or not managed, if you will.


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