Not that I've been keeping close tabs, is it not conceivable to see a 2-2 split with Minnesota, 0-3 to Detroit, 2-1 to the Cards, 1-2 to the Rays and a 3-1 with the Jays? 8-9 record to go 39-45?

I’ve got us at:
2-2 vs Twins
2-1 vs Tigers
1-2 vs Cardinals (we always seem to win the first series and lose the 2nd)
2-1 vs Rays
2-2 vs Blue Jays

9-8, the .500 record we’ve pretty much played to all season. I don’t think it will get much better until we have consistent starting pitching.

I have a feeling the Rays may well sweep us. Wouldn't be suprised if they shit their shorts against the Cards, too.

3-1 vs. Twins
1-2 vs. Tigers
1-2 vs. Cards
1-2 vs. Rays
2-2 vs. Blue Jays

8-9 in the last games before the break. Hopefully this is a worst-case scenario. I think we've been super lucky the last couple of weeks.

@Twins 2-2
@Tigers 1-2
Cards 1-2
Rays 0-3 Hope I'm wrong
Blue Jays 1-3

I got u going 5-12

Winners only in this thread!!!!!!!

Tigers and Twins are road series so that should be at least 3-1, 1-2 but I think 5 wins is more likely. Cards have no bullpen we will win 2. Rays and Blue Jays I see 2 wins for sure but hopefully 3.

So I say 8-9 on the bad side and 10-7 on the good side. A sweep of the Tigers would be awesome.

The Mariners in recent weeks touched base with the Cubs on shortstop Starlin Castro, asked the Royals about designated hitter Billy Butler, talked to other clubs about other hitters.
None of the talks progressed, according to major league sources. Virtually every team contacted the Cubs about Castro after a published report said he was available (he wasn't). Butler, too, remains relatively untouchable (he's under club-friendly salaries through 2015, and the Royals consider him a core piece.)


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/f...eficial-061912

That's fine with me. If we lose Billy we will have no offense at all (as opposed to having the very little we have now).

:spock: Seriously?

The Royals are 28-22 since the streak.

No news here. So they asked and we slammed the door in their face, pulled out our shotgun, and told them to get off our lawn :evil:

Yes, Billy should be untouchable.

Duh. You don't trade a hitter like Butler away in the AL when you can just play him at DH. Especially with such a club-friendly contract.

Baltimore is on a 3 game losing streak.

I like Billy but if the Mariners want him for King Felix, well nice seeing you Country Breakfast.

Stick to twitter

Yes. Might even be willing to give them Yuni back too.

I wonder what the hell the Mariners are trying to unload.

Look who you played man. Wow your June Schedule is a joke you should be winning.

That includes 3-4 vs the NYY, 2-1 against the BoSox, 2-1 against the ChiSox, 2-0 vs Texas, 2-1 vs Cleveland and 2-1 vs StL. Yeah what a joke :shake:

May was no joke.

The joke was the month of June man. A's Twins Houston Brewers Pitt and the Cards.

Try playing that for 6 months AL east teams don't get a month break like that.

Go **** your mother.

Baltimore has one good season, and you turn into a douchebag.

I don't care if you all win. All i said was i see 5-12 and you come at me for no reason.

But the 28-22 stretch includes all of these teams. And BTW we were 18-13 before the month of June started since the 3-14 start/end of 12 game losing streak.

AL east teams don't get to play weaker teams? Got it.

Show me 1 AL East team that has a month like you guys do in June.

Yeah they wouldn't offer that deal. They probably wanted to give us Smoak and a couple prospects or something.

FYP

The trade offer Rosenthal actually suggests is Billy Butler + Wil Myers AND/OR Jake Odorizzi.

He's not saying that the Royals SHOULD do that... but that type of deal is what the Mariners should look for in return for King Felix.

I don't think the Royals can do that, personally. Would really cripple the offense to move the best, established veteran hitter (and one who is controlled longer than King Felix).

Especially considering Hernandez already has a lot of mileage and is in the midst of his worst year.

Yeah, the hell with that. I'll roll the dice with what we have now and in the immediate future.

Wow. Even if he is pitching at his normal sub 2.00 ERA that isn't worth it.

Your July is shaping up to be not that rough. But yea, we had some teams that turned out weak all lined up for 2 weeks. Who cares? Royals are still winning more than they're losing for now.

I'll trade you Indiana Avenue for Pacific Avenue, Park Place and Boardwalk.

Myers and Odorizzi are the only untouchables on the farm IMO. Billy and whatever two prospect the Mariners want other than those two and I would deal for King Felix.

No way. He is wearing down as evidenced by his numbers this season. The Mariners are doing to him what we did to Meche. The team is lousy so when he starts they have to get as much out of him as possible leading to around 104 pitches every time he starts and well over 200 IP every season. He is a beast but they have been running him into the ground. I personally wouldn't take that risk especially with Billy's production and salary vs. Felix's less long term deal which would see us having to pay him $40 million over the next two years and then he becomes a FA.

Yeah, the Royals couldn't afford to give up that much premium production/potential premium production for a guy who is only signed for 2.5 seasons.

6 years of Meyers. 6 years of Odo. 3.5 years of Butler.

No way you give that up unless Hernandez is extended longer-term before the trade starts.

And they eat the entire salary from that extension.

So pretty much no. Good post btw.

Cardinals in a 1-1 game vs Detroit in the 9th. Hopefully it goes long so that the Cards have to use some more relievers for extended time. And then hopefully, after 15 innings, they beat the Tigers.

So you guys are saying you wouldn't do a package for Felix that is Billy Butler, Cheslor Cuthbert, and one of the pitching prospects?

I wouldn't do any package for Felix

Disagree re: moving Billy.

He's coming into his prime years (just turned 26 in April) and is finally starting to show the ability to convert 2Bs into HRs. He's only pace for 30 HR and 35 2Bs. The Royals have him through his age 31 year.

He's doing that while maintaining his AVG and OBP totals.

I wouldn't. Especially after just going over his stats. He has a career ERA of 3.26 which is much higher than I would have thought.

King's salary this season is 19m. No thanks.

No.

I would consider a package for King Felix, but I wouldn't do one that includes Billy Butler.

Cheslor Cuthbert+Mike Montgomery+Jake Odorizzi+Jeff Francouer (to eat salary)? Yeah, I'd do that.

The Royals don't match up extremely well with the Mariners, though. The only premium bat the Royals have close (which is what the M's would want) is Wil Myers, and I don't think he's moveable.

One more note on Felix Hernandez: His average fastball velocity has dropped by 2 MPH this season.

Not a good sign. Guys who start losing speed on the fastball typically start losing break on breaking pitches and deception as well.

Joel Goldberg @goldbergkc

#Royals trade RHP Sean O'Sullivan to Toronto for cash considerations. He was 5-4, 6.75 for AAA Omaha this year


Who the heck would want Sean O'Sullivan?!?!?

Cash considerations? They are considering giving us cash...:hmmm: For him it must be a decision of $100 gift card at Target or Wal-mart.

We did at one time..

Or maybe we can just stop charging for soda in the locker room now......

Toronto is desperate for SPs. I read they were bringing in some guy from an amateur league.
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Toronto apparently.

Man, Glass has trained the shit out of us.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post and the reality of our situation, but it's sad we've been so programmed that salary is one of the first thoughts that comes to mind.

**** THAT.

Anyway, I agree with NOT trading Butler. You improve the ML club by trading high-quality prospects, not high-quality contributors at the ML level.

Despite the ridiculous hate Butter has received on this board in the past seasons, he's not so quietly developing into one of the top right-handed bats in the game, and if he continues his trajectory, he'll be one of the top right-handed bats of his generation.

Whoa.....slow down there. He is good, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

And now starts the career renaissance for SOS. I do kid a bit but at this point would anyone be shocked if a guy we gave up on becomes a 10-12 game winner.

It's not, actually, if "he continues his current trajectory," as I noted. That's simply how good Butler has been and has the potential to become.

The only player I’ve been as comfortable coming to the plate in a pressure situation as Country Breakfast, was Mike Sweeney (who was a shockingly “clutch” player despite, ironically, also being the object of hate from Royals fans)

Hahaha, just in time to play them. Can we hand over more of our rejects with the agreement they will start against us?

Billy is only 26. Still a few for seasons for him to peak.

Even with the "if he continues his current trajectory" to say he can be one of the best hitters of all time is a bit of a stretch at this time.

Agreed. But I am not willing to say that if he peaks he can be one of the greatest hitters of all time.

Isnt it arguments like this that prompted the unfortunate creation of the "Baltimore Orioles Repository" thread? In case you havent figured it out, fans of a team that havent won in more than 25 years and get outspent by their competition 3 and 4 times to 1 don't give the slightest shit about your perceived schedule injustices.

He did say of this generation not of all time. But I am a Royals fan he will best of all time :)

Not all-time, just Billy's era.

That's what he meant by 'his generation'.

True, I was mistaken on that I couldn't remember if he had said of all time or just his generation and I was being too lazy to recheck. I was wrong and I appreciate being corrected (seriously, not sarcastically) although I still stand by my comment. I hope I am wrong though about my comment.

Long story on Wil Myers arguing he's unique prospect in Royals history.

http://thevirilview.com/royals/2012/...onder-boy-wil/

Can't believe we traded Bert for that ****ing bum. :cuss:

Is there really an Orioles fan in here talking smack...really?


ROFL

good read jimp
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Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

Salvy Perez pulled from the lineup at Class AAA; lots of speculation that the catcher is on his way to the Royals.

WOO HOO

This is the first post of yours in this thread that I'm glad to see.

**** TO THE YES.

Greatest news I have heard. Ever.

Mouth-watering article, thanks for posting. Dee Gordon and Dee Brown are two different people, though.

At first I was like....:mad:

And then I was like :whackit: