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ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 08:41 PM

Hope he's ok for the Combine

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 08:45 PM

Could Matt Barkley’s draft stock be slipping?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...k-be-slipping/

USC quarterback Matt Barkley entered his senior season for the Trojans with national championship aspirations and as the favorite to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

With national title hopes long gone, Barkley could also be seeing his draft stock sliding as well. According to Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times, Barkley doesn’t seem to be leaving a lasting impression with scouts.

Farmer spoke with a few NFL scouts to get their evaluation of Barkley. The scouts he talked to questioned Barkley’s arm strength and ability to make something happen when the play breaks down.

“Physically, he’s very average,” one scout said. “When he’s throwing it across the field on a deep out, the ball sort of hangs in the air. He doesn’t have that ability to just drive it. In the NFL, with the corners, they break so much quicker. They see it quicker, they close. A lot of those balls are going the other direction at the next level.”

“He’s got to be a decision-making, timing passer. That’s kind of his game. When he’s in rhythm, and he’s making good decisions, which a lot of times he’s good to very good, he can have success,” a second scout said. “If a play breaks down, or there’s pressure, he’s not going to be the kind of quarterback to improvise or make an athletic play.”

It doesn’t help that Barkley appears to have suffered a serious injury to his throwing shoulder either.

Scott Wolf of the Los Angeles Daily News reported that he’s hearing Barkley separated his right shoulder in the fourth quarter of the Trojans 38-28 loss to UCLA on Saturday. Lindsey Thiry of Scout.com reported that Barkley emerged from the USC locker room apparently wearing a sling under his jacket.

While it still seems likely Barkley will be a first round pick come April’s draft, he will have more hurdles to overcome this off-season to ease NFL team’s concerns about his ability and now-injured throwing shoulder.





























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seamonster 11-17-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9126424)
Could Matt Barkley’s draft stock be slipping?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...k-be-slipping/

USC quarterback Matt Barkley entered his senior season for the Trojans with national championship aspirations and as the favorite to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

With national title hopes long gone, Barkley could also be seeing his draft stock sliding as well. According to Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times, Barkley doesn’t seem to be leaving a lasting impression with scouts.

Farmer spoke with a few NFL scouts to get their evaluation of Barkley. The scouts he talked to questioned Barkley’s arm strength and ability to make something happen when the play breaks down.

“Physically, he’s very average,” one scout said. “When he’s throwing it across the field on a deep out, the ball sort of hangs in the air. He doesn’t have that ability to just drive it. In the NFL, with the corners, they break so much quicker. They see it quicker, they close. A lot of those balls are going the other direction at the next level.”

“He’s got to be a decision-making, timing passer. That’s kind of his game. When he’s in rhythm, and he’s making good decisions, which a lot of times he’s good to very good, he can have success,” a second scout said. “If a play breaks down, or there’s pressure, he’s not going to be the kind of quarterback to improvise or make an athletic play.”

It doesn’t help that Barkley appears to have suffered a serious injury to his throwing shoulder either.

Scott Wolf of the Los Angeles Daily News reported that he’s hearing Barkley separated his right shoulder in the fourth quarter of the Trojans 38-28 loss to UCLA on Saturday. Lindsey Thiry of Scout.com reported that Barkley emerged from the USC locker room apparently wearing a sling under his jacket.

While it still seems likely Barkley will be a first round pick come April’s draft, he will have more hurdles to overcome this off-season to ease NFL team’s concerns about his ability and now-injured throwing shoulder.





























http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_9dVI96jt7...owersbooth.jpg

Smith throws up another dog sht performance against the big twelve and here come the anti barkley clowns.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 9126431)
Smith throws up another dog sht performance against the big twelve and here come the anti barkley clowns.

It's funny let them hate.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 08:50 PM

SANCHIZE!

seamonster 11-17-2012 08:50 PM

Barkley has drew bree's arm strength. Is this a problem?

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 9126438)
Barkley has drew bree's arm strength. Is this a problem?

Yes.

Barkley is NOT Drew Brees.

Nightfyre 11-17-2012 08:52 PM

Barkley is practically at his ceiling. I just don't see how his game projects well to the next level. He's really polished, I just don't think he has the physical tools. His arm-strength is not good. You're basically hoping he comes in and becomes super accurate and is a super great leader, along the lines of Joe Montana.

Hootie 11-17-2012 08:53 PM

so basically his ceiling is Philip Rivers?

We sure did pick a shitty year to contend for the #1 pick...

Hootie 11-17-2012 08:53 PM

(that said I'd still take a Phyllis Rivers...unfortunately I don't think Barkley has the one good intangible Rivers has; competitiveness)

seamonster 11-17-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9126442)
Yes.

Barkley is NOT Drew Brees.

Put words in my mouth there. You don't need to be ****ing shwartznegger/geo gonzales to be a quarterback in the NFL, as quarterbacks like brady and brees prove every week.

Hootie 11-17-2012 08:58 PM

dude Brady has a rocket arm...so does Brees, really...and quick releases

these are the same people who used to say Peyton Manning didn't have elite arm strength

seamonster 11-17-2012 08:58 PM

**** Peytton Manning, he doesn't have the deltoids.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 9126463)
Put words in my mouth there. You don't need to be ****ing shwartznegger/geo gonzales to be a quarterback in the NFL, as quarterbacks like brady and brees prove every week.

Why don't you compare Barkley's arm strength to guys like Trent Green and Chad Pennington...?

seamonster 11-17-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9126469)
dude Brady has a rocket arm...so does Brees, really...and quick releases

these are the same people who used to say Peyton Manning didn't have elite arm strength

Brees is five foot one.


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