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BigMeatballDave 08-27-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8857186)
It was the 12 game losing streak to start the year, in which they played decent - just the breaks weren't falling for them. If they could have went .500 during that stretch, we have a .500 team right now heading to Labor Day even with the shit starting pitching.

Yep.

And if they hadn't shit down their legs last month, they'd be contending for the division.

JohnnyV13 08-28-2012 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8856890)
I will have hope for next season if the Royals acquire two legitimate starting pitchers before the start of next season (this would be in addition to retaining Jeremy Guthrie).

I will have hope for next season if the Royals bring Wil Myers up from Day 1.

I will have hope for next season if Dayton Moore admits he made a mistake with Jeff Francoeur and finds a way to move him (even if it means they get a nothing prospect back and nothing else).

I wrote about this on my blog, basically said I envied the Dodgers the guts to make a big move.

The Royals have the prospects to reshape their starting pitching. They just need the balls to go for it.

BWillie 08-28-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8856890)
I will have hope for next season if the Royals acquire two legitimate starting pitchers before the start of next season (this would be in addition to retaining Jeremy Guthrie).

I will have hope for next season if the Royals bring Wil Myers up from Day 1.

I will have hope for next season if Dayton Moore admits he made a mistake with Jeff Francoeur and finds a way to move him (even if it means they get a nothing prospect back and nothing else).

None of this will occur. You know this, I know this, every Royals fan knows this.

Nightfyre 08-28-2012 02:37 PM

We absolutely have room in the payroll to add 40 million to 50 million.

CoMoChief 08-28-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8859892)
We absolutely have room in the payroll to add 40 million to 50 million.

David Glass saw this post and ROFL

sedated 08-28-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8859892)
We absolutely have room in the payroll to add 40 million to 50 million.

The Royals aren’t in to win shit. The only time they are nice to the fans is when they want more money to fill Glass’ already stuffed pockets. It’s the sports-world version of an abusive relationship.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-28-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8859892)
We absolutely have room in the payroll to add 40 million to 50 million.

You talking about the same Royals I'm thinking of?

duncan_idaho 08-28-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8859892)
We absolutely have room in the payroll to add 40 million to 50 million.

Do they?

You can make an easy case for $30 million in acquisitions in the offseason (and still stay under the DM-identified floor).

You can make an easy case for $40-50 milllion in comparison to other markets of similar size as KC.

Will they?

I won't hold my breath. I hope they still acquire at least one guy from outside the organization, as was discussed at the All-Star break. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if they resign Guthrie and sit on him as the "legitimate starter acquired."

Nightfyre 08-28-2012 04:30 PM

That's the stupid thing. I estimate it would still be profitable with an $80 million payroll. David Glass just needs to take the next step to make the team a winner and buy a couple top-tier pitchers. Next year's 25-man roster:

Butler 8,500
Frenchy 6,750
Gordon 9,000
Chen 4,500
Escobar 3,000
Arguelles 1,380
Perez 1,000
Guthrie FA
Soria 750 (Option Buyout)
Hoch Arb 3
Paulino Arb 3
Pena Arb 3
Getz Arb 2
Wood Arb 1
Bourgeois Arb 1
Everyone else - ~500M

Total Obligations = ~34 mil
Plus a few players under arbitration?
This year alone the Royals spent 64MM on payroll and were profitable. No reason we can't jack it up with the 15MM/year increased ESPN revenue in 2014. Plus increased revenue from when this team is a contender? It would be ridiculous if the Royals don't make a splash.

petegz28 08-28-2012 04:41 PM

Has anyone every paid attention to the Royals when they are doing semi-good? The stadium gets packed fast. Imagine if we fielded a legit contender? Glass would make a shitload of a money but he is too dumb or unwilling to see that.

If this team was in contention for a serious run at the AS break the attendance would be awesome.

Deberg_1990 08-28-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8860178)
Has anyone every paid attention to the Royals when they are doing semi-good? The stadium gets packed fast. Imagine if we fielded a legit contender? Glass would make a shitload of a money but he is too dumb or unwilling to see that.

If this team was in contention for a serious run at the AS break the attendance would be awesome.

Agreed. I dont get it?

I just dont think he gives a *Bleep* honestly. Hes the worst kind of owner. Lazy and absentee.

BWillie 08-28-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8860160)
That's the stupid thing. I estimate it would still be profitable with an $80 million payroll. David Glass just needs to take the next step to make the team a winner and buy a couple top-tier pitchers. Next year's 25-man roster:

Butler 8,500
Frenchy 6,750
Gordon 9,000
Chen 4,500
Escobar 3,000
Arguelles 1,380
Perez 1,000
Guthrie FA
Soria 750 (Option Buyout)
Hoch Arb 3
Paulino Arb 3
Pena Arb 3
Getz Arb 2
Wood Arb 1
Bourgeois Arb 1
Everyone else - ~500M

Total Obligations = ~34 mil
Plus a few players under arbitration?
This year alone the Royals spent 64MM on payroll and were profitable. No reason we can't jack it up with the 15MM/year increased ESPN revenue in 2014. Plus increased revenue from when this team is a contender? It would be ridiculous if the Royals don't make a splash.

LOL our worst two players are in the Top 4 in salary. I literally hadnt thought about that before, I just spit out my Venom Energy Drink laughing when I read that, no lie

petegz28 08-28-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8860184)
Agreed. I dont get it?

I just dont think he gives a *Bleep* honestly. Hes the worst kind of owner. Lazy and absentee.

Think he would rather take a sure $20-$30 mil as opposed to taking a bigger risk on more with the increased chance it may not happen. I know there are minor league payrolls and what not to deal with but I mean the dude makes more money than the payroll of the ML team in revenue sharing alone. That's before one single ticket, hot dog, cotton candy, etc. is sold.

Coach 08-28-2012 05:40 PM

Salvador Perez has a .815 OPS in 185 PAs. The last four 22-year-old catchers to post an .800+ OPS with at least 200 PAs: Brian McCann, Ivan Rodriguez, Ted Simmons and Johnny Bench.

petegz28 08-28-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 8860186)
LOL our worst two players are in the Top 4 in salary. I literally hadnt thought about that before, I just spit out my Venom Energy Drink laughing when I read that, no lie

I wouldn't say Butler is one of our worst players. Not by a long shot. I could think of several ahead of him.


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