Why are you starting with me?

I was trying to help you.

But enough of all that, back to news.

http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1377426

Two sources in the Big 12 said Wednesday the possibility of Notre Dame moving its Olympic sports out of the Big East and into the Big 12 is becoming more and more likely.

Speculation is growing among those sources that an announcement could come from South Bend before the end of the summer.

As part of such a move, Notre Dame, which has a contract with NBC to televise its home football games through the 2015 season, would agree to play up to six football games against Big 12 competition (but most likely three or so to start with), sources tell Orangebloods.com.

Notre Dame would maintain its independence in football ... for now. If the Irish ever felt compelled to join a conference in football, the Big 12 would be ready and waiting for them. The trusted relationship between Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick can not be underestimated if such a move transpires.

Notre Dame's explanation to the Big East would be that the Big East is no longer the conference the Irish joined as a non-football member back in 1995, the sources said. Since the Irish joined, the Big East has seen Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College leave with Syracuse and Pittsburgh planning to join the ACC in two years.

Incoming Big East members include Central Florida, San Diego State, SMU, Houston and Navy.

One of ND's biggest attractions to the Big 12 is the ability to have its own Tier 3 television network, along the lines of Texas' Longhorn Network. Tier 3 inventory is whatever is left after the TV partners with Tier 1 (ABC/ESPN in the Big 12) and Tier 2 (Fox in the Big 12) rights select the football and basketball games they want to air.

Tier 3 inventory typically consists of 1 or 2 football games (although DeLoss Dodds has told reporters LHN could air three Texas football games in 2012) and less than a dozen basketball games as well as Olympic sports.

Sources in the Big 12 told Orangebloods.com during the league meetings that Notre Dame as a non-football member is the only expansion target that would receive universal approval from the league.

While sources say Texas and Oklahoma favor the Big 12 as a 10-team league for now, there are some in the Big 12 who think a move by Notre Dame - even just its Olympic sports - into the Big 12, could cause a frenzy of interest from football powers in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

Orangebloods.com reported last month that Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami and Georgia Tech all had efforts made on their behalf to gauge the interest of the Big 12 in expanding. The Big 12 indicated at its conference meetings in Kansas City in late May that it was happy at 10.

And while that was the sentiment then, a potential move by Notre Dame to affiliate with the Big 12, could cause more discussion and possibly a rethinking of the league's current position about bringing in new members.

Stay tuned.

Jim Delany just threw up in his mouth a little bit.

You were wrong. Gustafson's quote was/is bolded. It's fine. You and I, and everyone else, know you were wrong.

Correct, a portion of his quote, not his name, was bolded.

Gustafson was indeed offered by Oklahoma.

But since you continue to push I just looked it up. Texas has 15 recruits so far this year. 10 of those recruits were offered by A&M. 0 recruits have chosen A&M over Texas.

Damn.

Yep, as far as I know the Big 12 is the only big time athletic conference that allows for a 3rd tier media deal to exist similar to what ND has now. It's really a great fit for the Domers.

I wonder what Slive's reaction would be if a school wanted to park it's non-football teams in the SEC.

This
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The BCS is alive and well.

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Absolutely asinine that the Big XII would allow this. There's simply no need to do it.

Irish fans are going to come from all over the country to watch pole vaulting. Duh. Huge windfall for the conference.

Definitely. It was clearly a huge benefit to the Big East.

Notre Dame wants to join a strong and stable conference?

Ok, that was funny. Well played.

Notre Dame without football ROFL

Helping me against who. I was refuting your silly posts.

They're not really "joining" anything, and thus my initial post actually offered a strong compliment to the Big XII. There is no reason for the schools in this conference to pimp themselves out to anybody at this point, though the Bevo reaction might be hard to break.

Only the Big XII would be tripping all over themselves for a chance to get NDs vaunted basketball and Lacrosse teams without getting their football team.

Ummmm, okay?

You were like completely wrong multiple times on an incredibly important point.

I was wrong on the # of years by 8. I said 50 years when it was actually 42. My bad. Now what else was I wrong on?

3RD TIER
3RD TIER
3RD TIER

AAAHHHH..I JUST CREAMED MY PANTIES/WICKEDSON

Making the Final Four is a major accomplishment. Good thing Notre Dame is bringing us another one.

Winning them is even more significant. But you prefer Final Fours. The Big XII and ACC and Big 10 etc.... aren't drooling over themselves at the thought of getting NDs basketball program and final four appearance. They all want the football program and ND refuses to give it to anyone and the Big East ooopppps I mean Big XII is willing to play right into their hands. Who's playing who?

I don't think you were wrong on anything else. Why are you being so hostile? I was defending you by saying we all make mistakes.

Everyone on this board has. Its no big deal.

My original point had nothing to do with what UT does with the players it gets. All I know is that someone posted an article that had quotes from high school football players pimp'n the S.E.C. And then wit a little research it turns out that every single one of those players had no offer from UT.

If people are going to post articles talking shit then they should epxpect to be exposed. That's all, end of story.

And my point was that before you slam aTm with comments such as "A&M always has got the second pickings in the state and still doesn't muster much success out of that" and proudly wave the UT flag you might want to look at Texas's history which is anything but spectacular especially considering the clear and obvious advantages available to them.

Its all good yo. I'm just ****in around.

Yes, UT should have more football success than they have had with what they have.

Shit, they're putting 5-7 teams out there now on the regular.

So Notre Dame would likely play three games or so against Big Twelve teams the first year. Do you suppose they will just randomly select the first teams to play them...maybe pull names from a hat? That would only be fair, right?

They are? I thought they had fewer than eight wins exactly once in the past 15 seasons.

Wow. Texas or OU in South Bend would be bad ass. I don't think it's possible to have any bigger game then Texas and ND.

Yeah, Bevo v the Leprechaun. Huge. Amazing. They could call it the All That Money And Big Recruits Yet We Still Manage To Suck Bowl. :whackit:

"Raindrops Keep Fallin' on my head" is the number song on the Billboard 100, "Love Story" tops the box office, the United States is awash in patriotism fresh off the moon landing, and the Kansas City Chiefs are gearing up for the Minnesota Vikings in Super Bowl IV...it's New Year's day, 1970.

So you don't think Lee Corso would be in South Bend that day eh?

Taking something from the big east is not really saying anything superlative about your conference. It's like seeing someone get hit by a bus and taking their wallet, or stealing money from a senile grandma

Notes Dame is not going to affiliate in football, with or without their current media deal. The games they schedule with USC, Michigan, etc aside from being big moneymakers would have to go out of conference and it would completely change their scheduling in ways that are not conducive to a program that hasn't really been a factor in college football since Lou Holtz and Dan Devine, and is trying to rebuild themselves into that.

Doesn't make any sense to me.

Correct, the two biggest programs in CFB.

....at one time.

January 1, 1970

Who is bigger then Texas or Notre Dame now? Obviously Notre Dame isn't as successful on the field as they once were, but as far as dollars, power, and fan bases go who is bigger?

Really?

Yeah, really.

Two teams with big budgets does not necessarily equal a big game.

Alabama versus USC

or

Texas versus Notre Dame

Which one would get more people excited?

How about LSU, Alabama, USC, Florida?

You could probably even throw Arkansas and Oregon into the conversation. (Arkansas may be a stretch)

Could you really not figure this out, or are you doing some kind of Big XII defensive thing here?

But it does equal big ratings and dollar signs.

Which game gets more views?

Alabama versus USC, and it's not even close

No. Those programs are level below Texas and Notre Dame.

Yes, everybody understands that. But it really doesn't matter where Lee Corso broadcasts from of who rules NBC's airwaves if THEY DON'T WIN, which they don't.

That Yankees-minus-wins comparison certainly works for Notre Lame as well.

Alabama/USC would be a monster of a game. ABC would choose it for a primetime slot over Texas/Notre Dame.

Every one of those first three SEC teams has won multiple titles since either Texas or Notre Dame has won one.

Ronald Reagan was president the last time Notre Dame won a title.

That's nice, but I'm talking about fan bases and power. BSU could have won 2 and that doesn't mean that they are bigger then Texas or ND.

They still have a national following and their AD was invited to meet with the commissioners of the other conferences when figuring out this BCS mess. They have some major pull. They even change rules to accomidate to them. To pretend ND isn't special to college football is just being dumb.

Of course they have pull. They aren't USC nor Alabama, though.

Well lets just end this argument. Alabama is one coaching hire away from the Mike Shula years..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmi...aluable-teams/

The National Championship Game between LSU and Alabama had the lowest rating ever.

I think people in the South need to start realizing where they sit in this whole thing.

They think they sit on top, and they are right.

The first meeting between LSU and Alabama was the highest watched college football game on CBS in 22 years.

And Texas is in the South, smart guy.

People must have not liked what they saw.

So what? Are we supposed to get all weepy because the teams with the most money and biggest fan bases ****ing suck? WAAAAAA.

I'll bet ratings were down for last year's World Series, too. As me how much that bothers me.

Idiot.

There was a disagreement about what is a bigger game. I proved my point correct with one post.

Why are you so angry all the time?

You ignore that they also were the highest rated game of the year last year too. Ironic how that happens isn't it?

Half of the top 10 are SEC teams. That might explain why schools from other conferences don't even attempt to win a National Title anymore.

"SEC on CBS" was the highest rated college football package in the country on any network for the third consecutive year.

The four highest rated games of the season were LSU/Alabama, LSU/Alabama, LSU/Georgia, and LSU/Arkansas.

Of the top ten teams in terms of attendance, five were SEC teams, and another is aTm.

But how is that possible when nobody in New York cares about it? :drool:

The rematch was the highest watched program of any kind on cable last year. It was the second most watched program of any kind in cable television history...behind Auburn's national title game the year before.

Notre Dame and Texas didn't play. So I guess there's no comparison.

All I know is that people sampled Alabama vs LSU, let it sink in. And then went on to let it be the lowest rated Championship game......ever.

Maybe the NC game had low ratings because Bama had it won after the first quarter.

The most watched non-BCS bowl was Arkansas's victory in the Cotton Bowl.

Here are some ratings:

highest one on this list? USC-Texas

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819384

That was a pretty good game, too.


Unfortunately KSU's receivers couldn't catch the clap in a whorehouse that night.

It was also on cable for only the second time ever, dipshit.

Do you not understand what ever means you ****ing idiot?

Where did they air the game last year?

ESPN3?

Texas drew a whopping 3.1 share for their bowl game. Notre Dame drew a 3.8.

The rematch got a 16.2.

Texas drew a whopping 3.1 share for their bowl game. Notre Dame drew a 3.8.

The rematch got a 16.2.

It has been on cable for the past two years, both SEC teams winning championships, and they are the two highest rated programs of any kind in the history of cable television.

The top rated BCS games of all time. No SEC teams involved. Stay down.



1. Rose Bowl 2006 Texas-USC 21.7 *
2. Orange Bowl 2001 Florida State-Oklahoma 17.8 *
3. Sugar Bowl 2000 Florida State-Virginia Tech 17.5 *

Alabama-LSU last year on CBS drew an 11.5.

Even Scam Newton drew higher.

Are you really trying to compare the highest rated national championship games in history to a regular season game?