Holy shit.

So you disagree?

I am not blaming him for our abysmal first half.

I don't even know if I can compute this. My brain won't let me believe the score, or that we could lose to this bad of a team. But my eyes don't deceive me as you've all confirmed.

Of course. Go watch the NCAA tournament games from last year again.

this blows my mind so hard

What the hell is this?

I haven't been watching the game, but 6 points in almost an entire half can not be explained away by bad shooting or refs.

Go watch the entire 2012-2013 season.

He's lazy and ****ing soft.

WIDE EFFING OPEN for 3 again......... they missed, but that is just rediculous.

He's the coach, isn't he?

He hired the assisted coaches
He decided what the systems are
He recruited players
He coaches the players
He runs practice
He decides who plays and who sits
He calls any plays during the game

He is completely responsible for everything that happens ... good and bad.


Just because i understand this and am not a crying bitch about it ... not my fault.

BMac needs to get harder seriously. Attack dude.

Might have found somethin that works...

Can't see the game but I'm gathering that losing a game didn't help us refocus.

Yeah I really don't care how he played last year. All I care about is now.

Lazy, yes. Unfocused, yes. Complacent, yes. But soft players don't come through (and bail teams out) like he did in tough, winner-takes-all games.

i will be the first to come here and eat a huge helping of crow if he wins KU a big game this year.

If you think EJ is the same player as last year...well, uhhh, that sucks.

We're losing to a team that didn't even know the shot clock was about to expire? A senior?

He's the same guy with the same skillset and same mind. Whatever was there before is still in there somewhere. You know this.

I wish somebody wound punch Dougherty in the gunt.

It is a shame that basketball isn't based on physicality alone.

Self needs to do a better job, that is kinda obvious.

Hi-Lo scheme sucks
poor shooting


anyone want to give me shit about these 2 things now?


or maybe you can laugh and giggle about the guard thing again

It's amazing how much this team has regressed since December.

i sure wish this team had a vocal leader.

No Danny manning did this!

Worst ****ing announcer I've probably ever heard. Hasn't changed since the TTU game.

WE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT EM!

If Manning were here do you think Ellis and Traylor would be further along?

I think it's obvious now that December was a fluke. They were playing over their heads.

Hi lo has won a title and got to the title game. It's just poor execution. But you're right in that Self had coached poorly. This team seems to have lost confidence.

:Lin:

Yes. IMHO

If the moon were made of spare ribs would you eat it?

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On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how mad is Bill Self right now? #kubball

Or perhaps they got content with their press clippings.

Marcus Smart would never lose if that was the case.

I think Bill Self is a very good coach.

But i also think he sacrifices offense to work on defense.


That sacrifice means he doesn't change his offensive scheme AT ALL. Not a single change since he came to KU. Which means he doesn't adapt the offensive scheme to fit the players he has. That's a mistake imo.

Exactly.

You made my point.

Elijah may have the same skillset this year. He may not. Have we seen it yet?

His mental toughness is nonexistent. He's lazy, and ****ing soft.

You can have a great skillset, but you can still be weak and soft.

This is the most ridiculous half of basketball I've ever witnessed as a Kansas fan. Abysmal.

How do you only give up 22 point in a half and trail by 9? That's a pretty massive deficit the way this game is going.

Epic suckage.

LOL at Kansas.

Ribbit....




Ribbit....

It wasn't nonexistent last year in the NCAA Tournament. It wasn't nonexistent in the toughest road game the team has played this season (at OSU). No, I'm quite sure it's still in there. He just has to bring it out again.

Pathetic display of Basketball....
Can only imagine what this score would look like
if they were playing a good team. Probably down by 20.

We'll agree to disagree.

I don't feel like arguing with another KU fan based solely on an opinion.

Once Elijah shows some toughness or wins the team a game I will be here to have a double serving of crow.

Game is moving at a snail's pace. A 9 point deficit today could take quite a long time to overcome as long as TCU keeps holding onto the ball for the full 35 every possession.

@austin_meek: On the bright side, this will be better than that 31-6 loss to the Topeka YMCA in 1898.

I'm not making any claims that he'll do it. I'm just saying he's capable of it.

It'd probably be more than that. We only scored 13 points.

I agree. He's more than capable. That's what makes this shit that much more frustrating.

But his suck has vastly outweighed his non-suck this year.

You know they are going to drain the clock in the second half. Especially with a near double digit lead.

**** Austin Meek and his ksu fandom. Let's week if he's talking come Monday night.

I'm not at all sure that they'll come back in this game. It's a long way to go. If they don't, we might be looking at the worst KU loss in 7 years.

TCU getting so many favorable bounces.

ROFL

EVEN PRAYERS GOING IN -- EVEN WHEN IT DOESN'T COUNT.

Perry Ellis is simply awful. He belongs at WSU. Not here.

KU will win this.

When shots like that are going in, you just know its going to be a long night huh...

TCU hasn't even made shots today (well, they shouldn't, they suck). If they start making a few of them, KU is in deep shit indeed.

There was no foul on Withey there.

Lost 3 points in the first 5 minutes to them. That won't help.

Their post player having a career game.

The stripes said there was, we have to expect everyones best shot. Our D or F effort won't necessarily win, horrible.

Self needs to sit Elijah, NOW!

No streams yet?

Indeed. You would have thought they learned it on Saturday, but maybe they needed to have the worst loss in the Self era to get it through their heads.

Good job coach Self, looks like i called that one.

EJ...charge....LOL
Fail

Streams? :D

absolutely, they know we only score in the 60's on a good night.

They will challenge us to score 45 to win

It's called a flop Dougherty. You stupid ****.

This team isn't built to come back from this type of deficit.

oh boy ... KU pulling out the full court press.


we normally reserve that for when we are down by 15 to B........ in the tourney

14 points is an enormous deficit in a game like this. Not looking good.

Way to go shit head.

I cannot believe this is actually happening. I have a harder time believing it will last.

Ben needs to start shooting from half court every possession.

Jesus ****ing christ. If we lose this game I will be hearing about it for the next ten years at least. Un****ingbelievable.

Every loose ball goes to TCU...... FML