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notorious 03-24-2024 09:01 AM
Next year:

"How does KC keep finding great cornerbacks?!"

RunKC 03-24-2024 09:27 AM
Calling a pick that is going to be a top 80 pick and likely top 75 a 4th rd value is so bizarre.

The 4th rd usually starts at pick 101. That’s at least a 20 pick difference so almost a full rd.

Goes to show that people don’t value draft picks until April when they are actually used.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-24-2024 09:30 AM
I don't know what to tell you guys. Do you not realize future picks hold less value at the moment? I thought that was common knowledge.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-24-2024 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17456450)
I don't know what to tell you guys. Do you not realize future picks hold less value at the moment? I thought that was common knowledge.
I mean if you want to use it in a trade, obviously.

I guess I'm becoming more chill about the situation because the team is already solid, the only glaring hole right now is LT and another WR.

Idk, its not great compensation, but again, Veach's track record of 3 SBs in 5 years speaks for itself.

kysirsoze 03-24-2024 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17456450)
I don't know what to tell you guys. Do you not realize future picks hold less value at the moment? I thought that was common knowledge.
Yeah that's how the draft chart works. I think that matters more for teams that are trying to build a contender. When you are planning for the next ten years, not just the next couple, it doesn't make much sense.

Chris Meck 03-24-2024 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17456450)
I don't know what to tell you guys. Do you not realize future picks hold less value at the moment? I thought that was common knowledge.
As of this minute, yes, that is conventional thinking.

As of spring of '25, it will be a relatively high 3rd round pick.

What I think this tells us is that Veach is looking at the future, always.

Teams trying to climb the mountain have a different mindset than the team on top of the mountain.

FringeNC 03-24-2024 09:54 AM
It seems clear that Veach preferred Sneed gone at the franchise tag cap hit -- whether that's because of signing free agents with that money or he didn't want to deal with a potential hold-out or whatever. Obviously he hoped there would be a bidding war over Sneed, but that didn't occur.

I just don't think paying Sneed $20 million this year is something Veach thought to be a good idea.

rfaulk34 03-24-2024 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 17454898)
Why is anybody here cordial to this bundle of sticks? He vomits shit chili from his mouth and expects the rest of us to eat it. We ain’t in Cinci, fuggin reerun.
Can't take a little fun poke? I sorries. :(

So, who is first in line to take Sneed's place? I'd think with KCs track record of winning SBs without an elite defense, would allow fans to chill a bit and have faith in the braintrust. Losing Sneed isn't the move that's going to seriously hamper your ability to win again in '24.

Marcellus 03-24-2024 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17456126)
Chamarri Conner played 137 snaps in the slot last year. Played really well. Could help fill that role Sneed had here.

Keep ****ing doubting doubting Dave Merritt
When Conner was drafted his comparison was Sneed. He was drafted to play that roll.

staylor26 03-24-2024 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17456448)
Calling a pick that is going to be a top 80 pick and likely top 75 a 4th rd value is so bizarre.

The 4th rd usually starts at pick 101. That’s at least a 20 pick difference so almost a full rd.

Goes to show that people don’t value draft picks until April when they are actually used.
There's a middle ground here where one can understand today's value and what the actual pick will be next year.

For now, it's worth a 4th, because if we tried to use it to make a move this offseason, that's what the value is.

But yes, it's very likely going to be a top 75 pick, and people acting like that's nothing are being silly.

ToxSocks 03-24-2024 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17456458)
As of this minute, yes, that is conventional thinking.

As of spring of '25, it will be a relatively high 3rd round pick.

What I think this tells us is that Veach is looking at the future, always.

Teams trying to climb the mountain have a different mindset than the team on top of the mountain.
This move is all about the future. I imagine they'll use the cap space on a few contract extensions and use the 3rd next season to help compensate for any players they'll lose. We know some big extensions are coming due, and once again, we can't pay them all.

But yeah, the compensation is still low and surprisingly so. It definetly feels like we got fleeced.

Im guessing better trade compensation was on the board, but it doesnt matter if they aren't willing to pay him too.

ToxSocks 03-24-2024 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17455048)
Not sure about “great talent”, but some of the remaining free agents…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still a lot of great talent left in free agency:<br><br>- S Justin Simmons<br>- CB Stephon Gilmore<br>- LB Jadeveon Clowney<br>- S Quandre Diggs<br>- S Julian Blackmon<br>- WR Michael Thomas<br>- QB Ryan Tannehill<br>- CB Xavien Howard<br>- CB Tre White<br>- DL Calais Campbell<br>- CB Adoree Jackson<br>- S Jamal Adams… <a href="https://t.co/QdigWbot3c">pic.twitter.com/QdigWbot3c</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1771357190697128021?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Simmons is the only guy here i think really moves the needle for us. And even then it's not like we need him.

All signs point to that money being used on extensions imo.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-24-2024 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17456462)
Can't take a little fun poke? I sorries. :(

So, who is first in line to take Sneed's place? I'd think with KCs track record of winning SBs without an elite defense, would allow fans to chill a bit and have faith in the braintrust. Losing Sneed isn't the move that's going to seriously hamper your ability to win again in '24.
As much as you annoy me, you're right.

McDuffie
Watson
Williams
Reid
Connor
Cook

This is fine. Its not elite but it's not a weakness either. If we lose, its not going to be because of this DB core.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-24-2024 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17455914)
This will be ignored bc every Chief fan over values their own.
Why would it be ignores? Like usual Mahomo posts something outdated that's been posted a million times

Woogieman 03-24-2024 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17456450)
I don't know what to tell you guys. Do you not realize future picks hold less value at the moment? I thought that was common knowledge.
I think everyone understands that concept, what is debatable is HOW MUCH more value a 2024 pick has. Calling it a 4th rnd pick is hyperbolic...it could only credibly be considered a 4th rnd pick if Tenn makes the playoffs and next year's draft class is once-a-decade weak. Tennessee could just as likely win 5 games (stout conference, Levis could bust), and next year's draft class could be better than average and that 3rd could land quality closer to a 2nd than 4th.


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