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Aries Walker 06-15-2013 06:33 PM

I just got back about an hour ago. It was certainly Zack Snyder's best movie, but that's like saying that Babe Laufenberg was the best third-string quarterback in the NFL. It was loud and explodey and added a bunch of stuff to the backstory and made the hero more tortured and conflicted and all-around Batmannish then he has traditionally been, but Henry Cavill did a good enough job with what he was given. It had too much Russell Crowe, and largely wasted Amy Adams (anyone could have played her) and, if possible, Kevin Costner. The standouts, acting-wise, were some lesser characters: Christopher 'SVU' Meloni as the representative presence of the US Military, and a German actress named Antje Traue commanded the screen more than anyone as General Zod's second in command. The most humorous thing in the movie was the overdone product placement, as the rest of the film takes itself so seriously, you'll want to put in Platoon or Excalibur for some relative levity. On the other hand, the score is tremendous - one of the best in recent memory - and the vision of Krypton was mesmerizing.

Overall, Rotten Tomatoes is giving it in the mid-50's, which is about right.

ChiefsFanatic 06-15-2013 07:06 PM

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It did feel to me like things may have been cut to keep the running time more reasonable, and I'm guessing that may have been one of them. I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere there exists a 3-hour version of the movie.

This review really helped me identify some of the things that I thought were wrong, but just couldn't put my finger on. And it really makes me hope that someone other than Snyder directs the sequel, and REALLY makes me hope he doesn't direct the Justice League movie.

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keg in kc 06-15-2013 07:11 PM

That reviewer just doesn't get the movie. At all. Should probably go throw the '78 Superman in his betamax player. That sounds more his speed.

kysirsoze 06-15-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9754082)
That reviewer just doesn't get the movie. At all. Should probably go throw the '78 Superman in his betamax player. That sounds more his speed.

I think that's unfair. The reviewer seems open to an update on Superman. This movie just seemed so set on making a darker more somber Superman that it let the pendulum swing WAY too far the other way. People loved Iron Man. People loved the first two (and to a lesser extent the latest) Spider-Man movie. You can have serious themes and dark images without bogging down your hero, and with him the entire film. Dark Knight Rises of all movies had MUCH more whimsy and watchability than this film.

tk13 06-15-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 9754076)
This review really helped me identify some of the things that I thought were wrong, but just couldn't put my finger on. And it really makes me hope that someone other than Snyder directs the sequel, and REALLY makes me hope he doesn't direct the Justice League movie.

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I knew coming out of the theater some people would not like this movie but that's a terrible review.

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kysirsoze 06-15-2013 07:44 PM

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I knew coming out of the theater some people would not like this movie but that's a terrible review.

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You can poke holes in arguments all day, I suppose, but regardless of his treatment of Superman as a character, Snyder turned in a sloppy, overdone film. He pulled his typical schtick where he throws in a lot of pretty shots and calls it art because that's what music video directors do. He finally dropped the slow mo, but he more than made up for it in lens flares. I mean... the guy just tells a bad story. There is no soul in his movies. All style, no substance. If he directs the next one, I might not even see it. I CERTAINLY will never see another non-Superman film he does.

ChiefsFanatic 06-15-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 9754123)
You can poke holes in arguments all day, I suppose, but regardless of his treatment of Superman as a character, Snyder turned in a sloppy, overdone film. He pulled his typical schtick where he throws in a lot of pretty shots and calls it art because that's what music video directors do. He finally dropped the slow mo, but he more than made up for it in lens flares. I mean... the guy just tells a bad story. There is no soul in his movies. All style, no substance. If he directs the next one, I might not even see it. I CERTAINLY will never see another non-Superman film he does.

I still give the movie 7 out of 10, but I am a superhero/comic book fan. Thor was a horrible movie, but I enjoyed myself anyway. Man of Steel is almost devoid of any character development whatsoever. Snippets of Jonathan Kent lecturing young Clark do not count as character development.

Silock 06-15-2013 08:04 PM

I agree with pretty much everything kysirsoze said. The more time I have to reflect on it, the less I like it, and that's coming from someone with a HUGE blind spot for superhero flicks.

Silock 06-15-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 9754137)
I still give the movie 7 out of 10, but I am a superhero/comic book fan. Thor was a horrible movie, but I enjoyed myself anyway. Man of Steel is almost devoid of any character development whatsoever. Snippets of Jonathan Kent lecturing young Clark do not count as character development.

I would put this film on the same level as Thor, honestly. It felt that empty to me.

ChiefsFanatic 06-15-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9754144)
The more time I have to reflect on it, the less I like it, and that's coming from someone with a HUGE blind spot for superhero flicks.

I agree with this. The more I think about it, the worse the movie gets in my mind. And sadly, it is still the best Superman movie ever made. DC really doesn't have a decent movie, does it?

the Talking Can 06-15-2013 08:10 PM

just saw it...it was terrible

not an interesting human moment in the whole thing, no dialogue, no humor, no real reason to give a shit...then a solid hour of two guys destroying buildings


it was pretty ****ing boring...Star Trek, whatever your complaints, is 100 times the entertainment this still birth was...

arrowheadnation 06-15-2013 09:06 PM

Did you all catch the Easter eggs that pointed toward a possible justice league movie?

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-King- 06-15-2013 09:10 PM

About to see it now.
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kysirsoze 06-15-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9754144)
I agree with pretty much everything kysirsoze said. The more time I have to reflect on it, the less I like it, and that's coming from someone with a HUGE blind spot for superhero flicks.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9754155)
just saw it...it was terrible

not an interesting human moment in the whole thing, no dialogue, no humor, no real reason to give a shit...then a solid hour of two guys destroying buildings


it was pretty ****ing boring...Star Trek, whatever your complaints, is 100 times the entertainment this still birth was...

Oh, thank God. I thought I was talking crazy pills in here.

kysirsoze 06-15-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 9754151)
I agree with this. The more I think about it, the worse the movie gets in my mind. And sadly, it is still the best Superman movie ever made. DC really doesn't have a decent movie, does it?

While I agree DC sucks at developing their properties, I think this was the 4th best Superman movie.


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