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BossChief 11-21-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9140752)

To me, it wont just take getting rid of Pioli to get that feeling. I want him to be replaced with a competent GM, who hires a good head football coach and for us to draft Geno Smith with the first overall pick. For this team to have a chance at a superbowl in the next 5 years, ALL of those things NEED to happen. 2/3 just wont do because we all know EXACTLY what it looks like to have 2/3 of a team. In the 90s, we had great defense and special teams...but little offense. In the early to mid 2000s we had GREAT offense, but no defense.

FFS for JUST ONCE, Id like to get excited for a team that has EVERYTHING.

Phobia 11-21-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9140771)
FFS for JUST ONCE, Id like to get excited for a team that has EVERYTHING.

Never gonna happen. Ever. Even the dynasties had missing pieces.

pr_capone 11-22-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9140774)
Never gonna happen. Ever. Even the dynasties had missing pieces.

Cant think of a whole lot the Bulls were missing. :harumph:

Phobia 11-22-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9140780)
Cant think of a whole lot the Bulls were missing. :harumph:

Fair enough. I hadn't considered other leagues.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9140750)

I prefer to use V for Vendetta.

Everyone joins Save Our Chiefs

http://i.imgur.com/dE7YT.gif

The Blackout

http://i.imgur.com/5PMXD.gif

PIOLI FIRED

http://i.imgur.com/gk60q.gif

BossChief 11-22-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9140774)
Never gonna happen. Ever. Even the dynasties had missing pieces.

Im not saying we need ELITE at all three facets...but Id like to see a team that has a A/B/B or even a A/A/C or something like that.

I know this is gonna paint me as a big homer, but I still dont think we are as far off as some think we are if we fill the big roles with quality hires/picks.

We have the pieces for a really good offensive line...maybe even borderline elite. It includes a really good left tackle that would be even better with a QB that gets the ball out on time.
We have the pieces for an ELITE pass rush.
We have borderline elite linebackers if we can upgrade Belchers spot.
We are a piece or two from having a borderline elite receiving corps.
Our running backs are pretty damn good with a chance to be elite if we had a competent passing game.

I am one of the few that think we are in good shape if we hire a LEGIT HC/GM combo and draft the right quarterback.

If this team hires a guy like Bill Cowher and a GM he can work with.. and drafts a kid like Geno Smith...sky is the ****ing limit.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2012 12:23 AM

Personally I think our RBs suck outside of Charles.

I haven't seen the other scabs make a single big play.

The pieces for an elite pass rush aren't there. We have 0 interior rush.

I do like 3 of the OL but who knows if Hudson (post-injury) and Allen will ever be worth shit.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2012 12:24 AM

Incoming!

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AussieChiefsFan 11-22-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9140793)
Im not saying we need ELITE at all three facets...but Id like to see a team that has a A/B/B or even a A/A/C or something like that.

I know this is gonna paint me as a big homer, but I still dont think we are as far off as some think we are if we fill the big roles with quality hires/picks.

We have the pieces for a really good offensive line...maybe even borderline elite. It includes a really good left tackle that would be even better with a QB that gets the ball out on time.
We have the pieces for an ELITE pass rush.
We have borderline elite linebackers if we can upgrade Belchers spot.
We are a piece or two from having a borderline elite receiving corps.
Our running backs are pretty damn good with a chance to be elite if we had a competent passing game.

I am one of the few that think we are in good shape if we hire a LEGIT HC/GM combo and draft the right quarterback.

If this team hires a guy like Bill Cowher and a GM he can work with.. and drafts a kid like Geno Smith...sky is the ****ing limit.

This!!

BossChief 11-22-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9140798)
Personally I think our RBs suck outside of Charles.

I haven't seen the other scabs make a single big play.

The pieces for an elite pass rush aren't there. We have 0 interior rush.

I do like 3 of the OL but who knows if Hudson (post-injury) and Allen will ever be worth shit.

You are looking at things as they sit wihile running the passing schemes these jokers use on defense.

Turn back the clock to the second half of last year when Romeo turned up the heat a little and you will see what the defense would look like if a guy like Bill Cowher is hired to be the HC and brings along a guy that can install his zone blitzing, attacking defense.

Even if our running backs don't turn it up like I think they would if we had a good passing attack, replacements are a dime a dozen and with Charles, it wouldn't take a couple high picks to do so. I REALLY like Gray and think Draughn is above average.

The offensive line is rated very high on all the grading sites and that's with crap at QB...if we had a guy that could make teams pay for blitzing us, it would make all the difference. Allen is coming around, as I said he would. His technique is improving game to game and his transition to guard is looking nice. He started the year playing too high and is using his power base a lot better...I think the guy is gonna be good.

I seriously think we are the 2010 49ers...but we have got to make the right hires and picks this offseason or else the slide could continue and this team may never realize its potential.

BossChief 11-22-2012 12:35 AM

They keep asking the players why they seem to come out flat and why it seems they arent giving full effort out there.

You know why?

Horrible coach and quarterback.

The players KNOW they arent gonna win shit with these guys...replace them with a coach like Cowher and a quarterback with the tools Geno has and you better get buckled up!

007 11-22-2012 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9140799)

I was there for the making of that sign. heh

bowener 11-22-2012 01:11 AM

I still like the idea of getting hundreds of paper bags printed with the SOC moniker on them (upside of course).

bowener 11-22-2012 01:37 AM

Clayton,
If you have the stats handy, and if it is fairly easy, how do they Pioli fail facts change if you include teams the Chiefs have played that are 7-9 or better? Or even just 8-8... I am guessing the Chiefs are still pretty craptastic. I was just thinking of all the times we've lost to the Bills lately...

edit: Just from including 8-8 Broncos and Raiders teams the Chiefs lost 5 more there.

Basically I am just curious how bad the Chiefs really are. I expect them to lose to winning teams, most people do, so I am curious how they fare against average to slightly below average foes. I am guessing poorly.

Phobia 11-22-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9140875)
I was just thinking of all the times we've lost to the Bills lately...

It's ridiculous. I spent a ton of money sitting 3 rows up in 2002 to see them lose to Rob Johnson and the Bills by one lousy point. It was my wife's first game at Arrowhead, IIRC and I was pissed. I don't think we've beaten them in the past decade.


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