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DenverChief 06-09-2014 06:33 PM

So I have been thinking about getting a new concealed carry firearm and I have whittled my choices down to the S&W M&P Shield (.40) and a 1911 Colt Commander (or any reasonable variation of the commander series).

S&W pros, I'm familiar with the platform, I have the full size version and I love it. I already have a ton of .40 calibre ammo.

S&W Cons, It's not exactly what I want but it piques my interest because of cost and familiarity.

1911 pros, I love the size and the capacity of ammo for such a large caliber, I really have always wanted a 1911 especially one for conceal carry.

1911 cons, I'm only familiar with the firearm from having shot one several times at the range, don't have any .45 caliber ammo and its kinda pricey.

What say Chiefsplanet gun lovers?

LiveSteam 06-09-2014 07:34 PM

I'm a big fan of the 1911 & the triggers right out of the box. So it's no contest for me.
1911 Commander gets my vote

notorious 06-09-2014 07:43 PM

The only downside is that you have to carry the 1911 in the cocked position.

If you accidentally leave it uncocked and really need to use it you are ****ed.

I didn't realize this until our CCL instructor pointed it out.

Sensual Lardass 06-09-2014 07:43 PM

I have a Kimber Pro Eclipse and I can't say enough good things about it. I've had it just over a year and have put about a 1000 rounds of every make through it without a hitch. Phenomenal accuracy and a damned fine looking gun.

rockymtnchief 06-09-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 10680990)
I'm a big fan of the 1911 & the triggers right out of the box. So it's no contest for me.
1911 Commander gets my vote

Ditto for me. Plus, 1911's seem to be made for my hand.

HonestChieffan 06-09-2014 07:55 PM

Buy both. Man up. More guns. More better.

notorious 06-09-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 10681041)
Buy both. Man up. More guns. More better.

This.


You will not lose money buying guns.

Dunerdr 06-09-2014 08:12 PM

If I were you I'd get something in the Caliber you already have

notorious 06-09-2014 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10681084)
If I were you I'd get something in the Caliber you already have

Yep.

.40 is a beast. It carries roughly as much energy as a .45 ACP.

HonestChieffan 06-09-2014 08:20 PM

Guns be good. More guns be better . Bigger guns be best!!!

kepp 06-10-2014 08:22 AM

Great price on a VZ58 - http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-ri1554-x.html

Dunerdr 06-10-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10681090)
Yep.

.40 is a beast. It carries roughly as much energy as a .45 ACP.

Exactly. A lot of new 9mm stuff even flys in the same range. I don't really have anything against .45 I just think it's too damn expensive.

crazycoffey 06-10-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10681010)
The only downside is that you have to carry the 1911 in the cocked position.

If you accidentally leave it uncocked and really need to use it you are ****ed.

I didn't realize this until our CCL instructor pointed it out.

I carry a sig p938 in my pocket, safety off and chamber empty, practiced drawing and racking a few hundred rounds and really not that much slower than taking the safty off a loaded one, feels little safer next to the twig and berries, no what I'm saying?

notorious 06-10-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10682583)
I carry a sig p938 in my pocket, safety off and chamber empty, practiced drawing and racking a few hundred rounds and really not that much slower than taking the safty off a loaded one, feels little safer next to the twig and berries, no what I'm saying?

If someone is on you are you going to have access to both hands to rack it?

Our CCL teacher went into great depth teaching us how to use one hand to hold a bad guy away while shooting.


I would rather just have a CC gun that is ready to rock as soon as it is drawn. There are plenty of other options, and this is coming from a 1911 LOVER.

Perineum Ripper 06-10-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10682599)
If someone is on you are you going to have access to both hands to rack it?

Our CCL teacher went into great depth teaching us how to use one hand to hold a bad guy away while shooting.


I would rather just have a CC gun that is ready to rock as soon as it is drawn. There are plenty of other options, and this is coming from a 1911 LOVER.

The only problem with holding on hand out to hold someone away is that you are in a weak stance and they can get to you..Grab your arm and pull you into them and get you one the ground..you have to push them back and step back..you never want to stay within arms length..they can grab and maintain control of your body and arms and you are within blade range..I understand what your instructor was saying but that is a last resort to keep 1 arm out


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