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Pablo 01-25-2013 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9351182)
Fair enough. But, in my view, the Royals should be in the playoff hunt this year. I won't flip my shit if we're eliminated in the final few games, but if we're, for all intents, out of it at the break, DM needs to be fired.

It's win or GTFO time.
Most definitely this.

Three7s 01-25-2013 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9351169)
Well yeah, I was just responding to a comment.

Most people don't equate "crash and burn" with an 80-something win season.
You don't give up the farm for 80 wins. THAT is crash and burn.

Unsmooth-Moment 01-25-2013 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9351225)
You don't give up the farm for 80 wins. THAT is crash and burn.
We weren't winning more than 80 with Myers either. We had to improve pitching. 2013 will probably be .500ish, but when we clear the Bruce Chen contract and the Frenchy contract, we should be able to put someone decent out in RF.

DeezNutz 01-25-2013 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 9351237)
We weren't winning more than 80 with Myers either. We had to improve pitching. 2013 will probably be .500ish, but when we clear the Bruce Chen contract and the Frenchy contract, we should be able to put someone decent out in RF.
Could have won more than 80 with Myers and the FA pitcher whom we could have signed with the money we wouldn't have foolishly committed elsewhere.

The trade really was that ****ing stupid. But it's done, and DM needs to be right.

SAUTO 01-25-2013 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9351390)
Could have won more than 80 with Myers and the FA pitcher whom we could have signed with the money we wouldn't have foolishly committed elsewhere.

The trade really was that ****ing stupid. But it's done, and DM needs to be right.
I'm still depressed over it. They traded both my hopes.
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stonedstooge 01-25-2013 07:10 PM
LeadHead Ned needs to go first if he can't keep this team above .500

DeezNutz 01-25-2013 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9351402)
I'm still depressed over it. They traded both my hopes.
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I agree. I honestly try my best not even to think about it because it still pisses me the **** off to near summer '09 levels of frustration.

Myers better drink from a dick sock, and Shields better be tits.

duncan_idaho 01-25-2013 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9351431)
LeadHead Ned needs to go first if he can't keep this team above .500
Yeah. If he truly wants to play for more HRs, his meddling on offense must stop. No more bunts except in close/late situations against stud pitchers, and then only if it is a shitty hitter.

Moore went all in for this year. I hope it works.

SAUTO 01-25-2013 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9351456)
I agree. I honestly try my best not even to think about it because it still pisses me the **** off to near summer '09 levels of frustration.

Myers better drink from a dick sock, and Shields better be tits.
I tear up when I think about it
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siberian khatru 01-26-2013 02:50 PM
Great stuff from Brett here:

http://kingsofkauffman.com/2013/01/2...ns-guest-post/

On his most memorable home runs: “The one in 80 [off of Goose Gossage in Game 3 of the ALCS] because I knew if we lost that game we were going to blow it. ..."

I felt the same way. If they didn't sweep the Yanks, they would've been swept in NY.

alnorth 01-26-2013 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9351225)
You don't give up the farm for 80 wins. THAT is crash and burn.
It is not.

Crash and burn is ~95 losses. 80 wins would be disappointing to a lot of people.

alnorth 01-26-2013 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9351431)
LeadHead Ned needs to go first if he can't keep this team above .500
I really can't agree with this. This might be damning with faint praise, but Ned Yost has been the least-stupid manager we've had in over 16 years, maybe longer. We're more likely to get someone dumber than not. Thats on top of the fact that the game of baseball in the American League has one of the least-relevant coach/manager type of positions in major pro sports.

If anyone should hang for a bad season, it begins and ends with DM.

Three7s 01-26-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9353016)
It is not.

Crash and burn is ~95 losses. 80 wins would be disappointing to a lot of people.
When you go "all in" like DM has, it's playoffs or bust, not "oh well we went .500 so it was okay I guess." That's the same kind of BS that the Chiefs feed people.

stevenidol 01-26-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9347761)
Keith Law's take:

Arizona's return boils down to this: One year of Martin Prado, six years of a fifth starter in Randall Delgado, two fringy prospects, and one non-prospect. If that sounds like a good deal to you, I have some beachfront property in Phoenix to sell you.
#Dbacks expect to sign new 3B Prado, a free agent after 2013, to long-term extension in the near future, source said. Only way deal was made

— Jack Magruder (@JackMagruder) - Fox Sports beat writer for the D'backs.

alnorth 01-26-2013 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9353120)
When you go "all in" like DM has, it's playoffs or bust, not "oh well we went .500 so it was okay I guess." That's the same kind of BS that the Chiefs feed people.
I don't disagree.

That said, "crash and burn" is never, ever around .500, no matter what the circumstances, whether you are the Yankees or the Marlins.


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