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mr. tegu 06-19-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cookster50 (Post 9762525)
I haven't looked at the numbers, but generally a player like this has steep splits that favor one side, which means you cannot just say "give him a full season and he'll hit like this" because it would really be much worse.

Are you talking about batting left vs right? If so, given the differences in ABs the numbers are basically the exact same as far as totals for HRs, etc. The only big difference is in BA. Batting right is .199 and left is .248. Interestingly though, the OBP is .282 and .287 respectively.

Nightfyre 06-19-2013 12:41 PM

Would four years of Greg Holland be enough to net a prospect like Castellanos or Tavares?

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9762568)
Would four years of Greg Holland be enough to net a prospect like Castellanos or Tavares?

No.

Relievers just don't have that much value, unless you're selling to a team that's desperate at the deadline. And even then, you're doing good to get a top 100 prospect, let alone a top 25 or top 5 guy.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-19-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762517)
I agree. Given our options, unless we actually make a significant move to improve, for the forseeable future Johnson has to play more than Getz.

Yeah, I absolutely agree he should be playing instead of Getz. But it's like saying Brady Quinn should play over Matt Cassel. We need a real player.

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9762618)
Yeah, I absolutely agree he should be playing instead of Getz. But it's like saying Brady Quinn should play over Matt Cassel. We need a real player.

I'd like to see them upgrade at 2B both defensively and offensively (from Getz, anyway - hard to imagine an upgrade from Johnson's D). But I can live with Johnson playing 2B if they acquire a RF with some thump.

Alex Rios + Johnson would be more attractive to me than, say, any 2B-David Lough (or Jarrod Dyson playing everyday in CF with Cain in RF) combo that doesn't involve Chase Utley.

DJ's left nut 06-19-2013 01:49 PM

Johnson would've gotten that bunt down.

Free Elliot Johnson!!!

Pitt Gorilla 06-19-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9762689)
I'd like to see them upgrade at 2B both defensively and offensively (from Getz, anyway - hard to imagine an upgrade from Johnson's D). But I can live with Johnson playing 2B if they acquire a RF with some thump.

Alex Rios + Johnson would be more attractive to me than, say, any 2B-David Lough (or Jarrod Dyson playing everyday in CF with Cain in RF) combo that doesn't involve Chase Utley.

I haven't paid any attention to Rios, but wasn't he a giveaway just a few years ago?

WhawhaWhat 06-19-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9762732)
I haven't paid any attention to Rios, but wasn't he a giveaway just a few years ago?

That had a lot to due with his contract. 7 yrs for $70 million for a guy that was good but not great. The Blue Jays regretted that contact the moment it was signed.

Bambi 06-19-2013 02:30 PM

bahahaha, Keitz callin Moose a fat, soft, white pussy

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9762732)
I haven't paid any attention to Rios, but wasn't he a giveaway just a few years ago?

Yes, the White Sox got him for basically nothing. I don't remember if it was here or elsewhere, but I was contending the Royals should put in a claim on him at that time.

He had a bad year in Toronto and was easier to dump than Vernon Wells, so they dumped him.

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9762792)
Yes, the White Sox got him for basically nothing. I don't remember if it was here or elsewhere, but I was contending the Royals should put in a claim on him at that time.

He had a bad year in Toronto and was easier to dump than Vernon Wells, so they dumped him.

Any chance they try to get rid of him at the trade deadline?

mr. tegu 06-19-2013 02:53 PM

If we can manage to get in a real race with the Tigers we will have to have a Tigers thread where we root for them to lose.

WhawhaWhat 06-19-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762833)
Any chance they try to get rid of him at the trade deadline?

Here is his contract info:

2013 32 Chicago White Sox $12,500,000
2014 33 Chicago White Sox $12,500,000
2015 34 Chicago White Sox $13,500,000*

*$13.5M Team Option, $1M Buyout, Trade escalates 2015 option by $500k.

Slim chance unless the Sox pick up a part of the contract.

Three7s 06-19-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9762714)
Johnson would've gotten that bunt down.

Free Elliot Johnson!!!

He's a hell of a lot better than Getz. No argument there.

duncan_idaho 06-19-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9762833)
Any chance they try to get rid of him at the trade deadline?

He's been floated as a real trade option. They're a long way from contention and need to blow some things up and bring in more fresh, young talent.

No idea what the asking price will be, though.

He'd make a hell of a lot of sense and probably is better than any RF options available in FA this offseason (Hunter Pence is the only guy who really is close).


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